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clickclick
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Post by clickclick »

Anyone know who's going???
hockeymonkey09
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Post by hockeymonkey09 »

When is it?
rbkhockey4life
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Post by rbkhockey4life »

i may be wrong but i think there is no such thing as select 14. i have never heard anything about it before
GR3343
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Post by GR3343 »

rbkhockey4life wrote:i may be wrong but i think there is no such thing as select 14. i have never heard anything about it before
Minnesota, with the help of Bernie McBain has run their own version in the past couple of years. It's called the Premier '(whichever year is 14). Was and I suppose still is a good program. There are 80 players from around the state invited and split into 4 teams for a mini tourney. From that group, 40 are chosen to go to Ann Arbor for a 4 day tour, trip and competition with the USA coaching staff. Minnesota is one of 2 states in the union that does not participate in the Advanced 14 program and Mr. McBain used some connections to set this deal up. In my opinion, it was an outstanding opportunity and well worth going. My son played a couple of years ago and it was a great trip. While the players didn't compete against anyone from around the country, the were exposed to what the NTDP program is all about and were seen by some of the National Program's top scouts and evaluators. Great trip for the kids in terms of hockey education. Would recommend this for anyone who gets an invite.
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Post by conditioningsucks »

Interesting concept. Found this at MN Made Hockey:

http://www.minnesotamadehockey.com/MMH/premier.htm

GR3343, how were these players invited, selected? Is it the same bunch of hockey dads that pick the Super Series' teams? Is MN Made deciding who is worthy (if you pay for their hockey programs does that give you an advantage over other players)? Is someone actually scouting AAA kids or associations to invite the 80 players?

It is hard to determine if this is USA Hockey sanctioned or if it is just some kind of 'field trip' put on by Minnesota Made. What is it?

Based on what I can see, this looks like another Super Series selection process. Let us know how things went for you.
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Post by GR3343 »

conditioningsucks wrote:Interesting concept. Found this at MN Made Hockey:

http://www.minnesotamadehockey.com/MMH/premier.htm

GR3343, how were these players invited, selected? Is it the same bunch of hockey dads that pick the Super Series' teams? Is MN Made deciding who is worthy (if you pay for their hockey programs does that give you an advantage over other players)? Is someone actually scouting AAA kids or associations to invite the 80 players?

It is hard to determine if this is USA Hockey sanctioned or if it is just some kind of 'field trip' put on by Minnesota Made. What is it?

Based on what I can see, this looks like another Super Series selection process. Let us know how things went for you.
My son did a couple of MM events when he was a pee wee, and I would guess that's how they got his name for this event. There were others out there that I'm sure were scouted. Players like Isaacson, Lutzka, Meyer, Gavin and Herbert did not, to the best of my knowledge have any serious ties to MM. Like I said before, the trip was well worth going as there was some great hockey played both in the tryout process and in Ann Arbor. The boys were treated very well by the NTDP staff and got to tour a great facility. Several of the players have had continuing contact with the NTDP. I spoke with Ryan Reizmerski(sp) the director of player personell while in Edina for the Edina Classic, and he's continued to keep in touch with several of the players from the original Premier teams. I would recommend attending if offered the chance.
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mnb327
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Post by mnb327 »

Another pay to play deal, no such thing in Minnesota Hockey.

Wake up people ;erson making a living off of hopes and dreams.

Taxi Driver to hockey expert.

14 selects no different than Super Series, Minnesota Selects just more money.
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Post by GR3343 »

mnb327 wrote:Another pay to play deal, no such thing in Minnesota Hockey.

Wake up people ;erson making a living off of hopes and dreams.

Taxi Driver to hockey expert.

14 selects no different than Super Series, Minnesota Selects just more money.
Actually, the cost for this was less than playing Super Series or Selects. You've shown you don't care for or agree with any MM ideas. You appear to be another short sighted person with a dislike for original thoughts. Maybe I'm too old school, but I'm of firm belief that opportunities and experiences don't grow on trees. If someone is offering a reasonable chance to experience something otherwise unavailable, or unthought of, then I believe a person should listen. The great Herb Brooks once published an article that stated one of the problems with Minnesota youth hockey players was vision. Too few kids these days set their sights higher than their local high school or in state collegiate teams. MM as well as other programs, are attempting to show these kids that there's more out there in terms of hockey opportunities. Do they make money? Certainly, it's their business. There are no guarantees offered, only opportunities. Personally, I think too often, we sell ourselves and our kids short by not allowing them to believe. Obviously, it's a fine line to walk, but there's nothing wrong with faith, hope and desire. If something stirs you up inside and creates more of a passion, the better odds you'll pursue your dreams. If and when these hopes don't bear the fruit you originally expected, you'll at least have the understanding that you did all you could. As a parent, I would never tell my kids they can't achieve something. Back on topic concerning the 14's, if it allows even 1 kid to be exposed to a great experience and stir those fires inside him, then it's well worth it.
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Post by Doglover »

This is a MN Made concept/field trip but Bernie does set it up with the National Dev. Center. I think he holds tryouts and uses the MM lists as well as he personally contacts the premier kids at the age level ('95) to encourage them to participate. I've heard from parents who had kids go in prior years that it was fun to visit/tour the facility and it was a good experience. I've also heard that he doesn't usually get all the best kids to go so the scouts there haven't been impressed in prior years, with the MN talent. It's sort of a MN Pride trip to MI and it is what it is. You pay to go and have the opportunity to see the facility. If you have interest in that, it's probably not a bad idea if your son makes the team. Absolutely no need to participate though - most of the better players wait until the USA Hockey sanctioned Adv. 15's.
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Post by hockeyparent11 »

Doglover is pretty much right on. MM has a pay to play team called the Select 14s. The tryout itself is expensive as is the trip. The teams have been crushed in past years because, like with Pride, MM takes whoever wants to pay and is loyal to its own. It is not an advanced team. If you really want to go, negotiate before tryouts to reserve your spot.

It might be fun. My understanding is you get to see the Ann Arbor facility, but the scrimmages are not scouted.

This is NOT a Minnesota Hockey program. It is a MM program, like Force or Pride. Minnesota Hockey does not sanction an advanced 14 program.


In Minnesota, USA Hockey-sponsored elite hockey starts at the Advanced 15s, which is 93s this year. In other states, they start at Advanced 14s, which is 94s this year.
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Post by MnPride2 »

Doglover wrote:This is a MN Made concept/field trip but Bernie does set it up with the National Dev. Center. I think he holds tryouts and uses the MM lists as well as he personally contacts the premier kids at the age level ('95) to encourage them to participate. I've heard from parents who had kids go in prior years that it was fun to visit/tour the facility and it was a good experience. I've also heard that he doesn't usually get all the best kids to go so the scouts there haven't been impressed in prior years, with the MN talent. It's sort of a MN Pride trip to MI and it is what it is. You pay to go and have the opportunity to see the facility. If you have interest in that, it's probably not a bad idea if your son makes the team. Absolutely no need to participate though - most of the better players wait until the USA Hockey sanctioned Adv. 15's.

Bingo... we have a winner... hit the nail on the head!
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