Centennial Bantam "A" Job opening

[Milk Carton Matty #6]

The Centennial Youth Hockey Association is now taking applications for youth hockey coaches at all levels for the 2009-2010 hockey season. This includes the Bantam A and Peewee A teams. We are seeking qualified coaches to develop a fun and competitive hockey experience for our players. To apply fill out the on line application on the Centennial website.

http://www.centennialhockey.org/generic/generic1.asp

[gopher1]

Coach Razz is stepping down? Is there any reason why. He has put a lot of time and championships into the BA program. Hate to see him go, if that's the case.

[Cougerdude]

Coach Razz is stepping down? Is there any reason why. He has put a lot of time and championships into the BA program. Hate to see him go, if that's the case.

I know he was spending a good amount of time on the bench during HS games this year. Potential grooming????

[MNWILD2009]

Coach Razz is stepping down? Is there any reason why. He has put a lot of time and championships into the BA program. Hate to see him go, if that's the case.

I know he was spending a good amount of time on the bench during HS games this year. Potential grooming????

What happened to the Peewee coach?

[Cougerdude]

Coach Razz is stepping down? Is there any reason why. He has put a lot of time and championships into the BA program. Hate to see him go, if that's the case.

I know he was spending a good amount of time on the bench during HS games this year. Potential grooming????

What happened to the Peewee coach?

Not really sure. The initial post pointed out that the Bantam and PeeWee jobs were open - so I would guess that the Peewee coach is either moving on as well, or perhaps he applied for the Bantam A job.

[Chuck Norris Fan]

This is two years in a row that the Bantam "A" ranks have lost some great coaches. Last year it was EP, and With Tom and Chris gone, the Eagles were affected. Now what will happen to the Cougars? And what program is next? White Bear, Wayzata, East?

[GoGophersGuy]

Perfect opportunity for MoveYourFeetGuy to jump all over this...
MoveYourFeetGuy, get in there!

[Cougerdude]

Perfect opportunity for MoveYourFeetGuy to jump all over this...
MoveYourFeetGuy, get in there!

Good one

The only problem with that is I am quite certain the Bantam A spot will be filled by a non-parent coach.

[GoGophersGuy]

He has only "seen a few games", Im sure he could find a way.

Let him in..

Go Big Blue.

[SkyCarp]

I hear Centennial is having trouble finding candidates to fill the A Bantam coaching position. You would think that someone would want to step into a program that gives you a shot every year to make something happen. Or is it that no one wants to follow a coaching staff that has had success over the past year? What will Centennial do?

[TellItHowItIs]

Just have fun

[imaloserbaby]

For the Non Parent Coach, there are so many opportunities besides "Youth" hockey to fulfill their passion to coach. I have witnessed so many program alienate the "qualified" parent coaches that it has driven them away, now these association are stuck with No experience, young kids who do not know anything about the "Age" level and development needs of our Youth. They may know hockey. But coaching and handling Kids is still a developed skill. There is no way a young kid right out of college has the maturity level, knowledge, organizational skills, etc to coach a youth hockey team with out first stepping in as an assistant coach for a while to learn the ropes. Just reviewing the threads on this forum, there are a lot of large associations in the same boat. an example of this is the MN Gophers. They just hired a Volunteer coach, an ex-player. the kid is approx 4th on the depth chart of coaches, however, the experience he will gain will be very educational.

I think this post is right on the mark - I watched young kids with impressive Hockey Playing resumes take top Association jobs but have no understanding of:

A. How to surround themselves with coaches that will compliment their abilities - they usually find a buddy that they played with that has had the same experience and coaching but he does tend to be a good Drinking Buddy for after practice and at tournaments.
B. No ability to motivate a player - they typically start out the first few practices with their foot so firmly pushed down on the accelerator they have nothing left when it really matters - the kids figure that out after a month or so.
C. Absolutely zero understanding of what the kids are capable of accomplishing. They have not been around kids this age since they were that age and therefore cannot realistically set developmental goals.
D. Run drills that they did 10 years ago when they were in youth hockey - developement and training has, and will continue to, evolve and they haven't had an opportunity to learn from others.

Some of the best coaches are dismissed right from the start because they have a kid on the team and the fear that they may play favorite with their own kid carries so much weight or fear that the rest of their ability and experience is deemed worthless.

But, there are some logistical reasons why hiring a parent coach can be problomatic too - one main one being what happens if their kid doesn't make the team. So, it is not easy but if associations played this situation a little more towards the middle than rather committing to one end of the spectrum they may find the opportunity to make a better decision.

[justhavefun]

I agree with the last 2 posts. very good comments. My two boys are out of youth hockey now, but in the past when my kids have had Non Parent coaches; their commitment level is not as high as a parent coach. One of my sons coaches had a elementary school daughter, so every time one of her activities came up he missed practice, game, etc. Good Guy, and I agree he should have been at his daughter's school concerts, plays, dance recitals, teacher conferences, etc. However, when you take that and try to run an "A" PW team missing that much has its effects. Turned into a very poor season due to parents / kids complaining about there commitment level to the team. Parents keep track at how much the coach is there, and how many times they miss. I have seen more parent coaches more committed since they have to be there anyway for there son/daughter. Plus they really do care about the perception they leave for all to critique.

Sad part of all of this is, People really do know whats the best thing to do and who is the best for the job, however they let there ego, own biases etc. cloud their decisions.

[Chuck Norris Fan]

For the Non Parent Coach, there are so many opportunities besides "Youth" hockey to fulfill their passion to coach. I have witnessed so many program alienate the "qualified" parent coaches that it has driven them away, now these association are stuck with No experience, young kids who do not know anything about the "Age" level and development needs of our Youth. They may know hockey. But coaching and handling Kids is still a developed skill. There is no way a young kid right out of college has the maturity level, knowledge, organizational skills, etc to coach a youth hockey team with out first stepping in as an assistant coach for a while to learn the ropes. Just reviewing the threads on this forum, there are a lot of large associations in the same boat. an example of this is the MN Gophers. They just hired a Volunteer coach, an ex-player. the kid is approx 4th on the depth chart of coaches, however, the experience he will gain will be very educational.

I have been watching this level for years and the thing that I think is starting to happen is we are loosing the volunteer coach. The time and expenses of coaching are growing and the days of non parent coaches just giving their time are coming to and end.

I firmly believe that in order for youth programs to compete for qualified coaches they are going to have to pay, just as the HS does, actually more. I believe a HS coach makes some where in the neighborhood of 5k a year, and that is working from the middle of Nov to (in most cases) the middle of February. Youth coaches work from October 1 to March, they coach many more games, have Sunday practices and practice at 9 at night. I would say a hefty compensation is due them.

Now some organizations will continue to look for volunteers and they will get them. But as my dad always told me "you get what you pay for". The days of great volunteer coaches (See former EP and Centennial guys) are coming to an end.

Good luck to all those associations out there looking. I hope that Centennial finds their guy, it would be a shame to see such a impressive organization fall to the wayside because of some poor inexperienced coaching, or because they wanted to save some $.

[Cougerdude]

But, there are some logistical reasons why hiring a parent coach can be problomatic too - one main one being what happens if their kid doesn't make the team. So, it is not easy but if associations played this situation a little more towards the middle than rather committing to one end of the spectrum they may find the opportunity to make a better decision.

To your point about reasons to not hire parent coaches, I know with this crop of A Bantams, there have been a lot of issues with "cliques" as these kids have come up through the association (and I'm not talking about the kids here). I don't feel it's necessary to expand on that, but I'm sure it's a concern in all associations when hiring a parent coach...that they will play favorites.

Also, keep in mind that all "qualified" parent coaches were likely "non-qualified" non-parent coaches at one time - and I'm sure association boards realize that. I know these posts aren't saying to dismiss all non-parent coaches (rather saying to consider parent coaches), but it would be difficult for anyone to get youth coaching experience - mainly because I doubt very much that a parent coach would "bring on" non-parent assistants in some type of apprenticeship.

Question to close - if I'm not mistaken, wasn't the former A Bantam coach at Centennial quite young (if not right out of college) when he got that job 10 years ago? The same guy that everyone is going to miss so badly....Trial by fire!!!

[Fire and Ice]

It appears the Bantam A job is closed at Centennial.

The former Bantam coach did not leave the program he is with the high school team this year.

[hockey relic]

It appears the Bantam A job is closed at Centennial. .

Is word out yet on who is taking over BA?

[Chuck Norris Fan]

I looked into this and heard two rumors.

1. the PeeWee A coach was going to take over with a couple of the former Bantam A assistants helping out.

2. The bantam A staff was coming back minus Ras.

not sure which is happening? Keep an I on the Centennial board minutes for an announcement.

[Chuck Norris Fan]

Peewee coach back to Peewees

Bantam "A" filled by Ras's coaching staff.

[GoGophersGuy]

Must be on the board. Looks like Ras called all his dogs back as I am surprised the Peewee Coach did not get the job.

[Chuck Norris Fan]

Must be on the board. Looks like Ras called all his dogs back as I am surprised the Peewee Coach did not get the job.

What does this mean?

Must be on board??

Called his dogs back?

Why surprised?

[PoniesDad45]

Centenial has a great thing going up there, I hope it continues for them. I remember a squirts tourney we were in years ago-the parents did such a good job. Great food, great medals and prize bags for the kids.

The president of the association shook the hands of every one of our kids before our last game (even though were were playing for 3rd place) and thanked every kid for participating. I thought it was a pretty class move.

The only other place I saw that done was from the Como association at the Winter Carnival outdoor tourney at Phalen.

[GoGophersGuy]

Must be on the board. Looks like Ras called all his dogs back as I am surprised the Peewee Coach did not get the job.

What does this mean?

Must be on board??

Called his dogs back?

Why surprised?

Knew that decision and posted it before it was out to most the general public. Must have been at a board meeting where it was announced.

Under impression that Peewee A coach was moving up to take over, Assistant comes back and Peewee A stays place.

Figured the Peewee A coaches would move into that role. Blaine should call and mix them in. Come to big blue land.. cent doesnt promote you..



Go Blue.

[GoGophersGuy]

Centenial has a great thing going up there, I hope it continues for them. I remember a squirts tourney we were in years ago-the parents did such a good job. Great food, great medals and prize bags for the kids.

The president of the association shook the hands of every one of our kids before our last game (even though were were playing for 3rd place) and thanked every kid for participating. I thought it was a pretty class move.

The only other place I saw that done was from the Como association at the Winter Carnival outdoor tourney at Phalen.

I didnt know they hosted tourn?????

[puckboy]

anyone hear of any other new bantam A coaches for the upcoming season.