Freshman 09-10
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Freshman 09-10
Who will be the best freshman playing varsity this coming season?
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I saw you mentioned the name Grant Besse above. I believe he played for the Wayzata Bantam A team last year.hockeyman84 wrote:Possibly Grant Besse from BSM
Question for you ? Did he attend Wayzata Public schools last year or has he been attending BSM all along ?
If by chance, he was attending Wayzata Public Schhols up until last year, any thoughts on why he decided to attend BSM vs Wayzata ?
Breck Freshmen
I heard Matt Colford, Keegan Iverson and a few others should help them.
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Not 100% but i think he was at Breck last school year...no idea on why he switched to BSM.GOPHERFAN119 wrote:I saw you mentioned the name Grant Besse above. I believe he played for the Wayzata Bantam A team last year.hockeyman84 wrote:Possibly Grant Besse from BSM
Question for you ? Did he attend Wayzata Public schools last year or has he been attending BSM all along ?
If by chance, he was attending Wayzata Public Schhols up until last year, any thoughts on why he decided to attend BSM vs Wayzata ?
Besse had been attending Breck school for awhile and wanted to play Class AA instead of Class A. He did play for the Wayzata Bantam A team last year. From what I hear he was a good player for them.mngopherfan wrote:Not 100% but i think he was at Breck last school year...no idea on why he switched to BSM.GOPHERFAN119 wrote:I saw you mentioned the name Grant Besse above. I believe he played for the Wayzata Bantam A team last year.hockeyman84 wrote:Possibly Grant Besse from BSM
Question for you ? Did he attend Wayzata Public schools last year or has he been attending BSM all along ?
If by chance, he was attending Wayzata Public Schhols up until last year, any thoughts on why he decided to attend BSM vs Wayzata ?
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Besse comment
You are correct in that Besse played on the Wayzata Bantam A championship team last year.
He was a Breck kid however his older brother also attended BSM from my understanding and yes it was an A vs AA scenario from my conversations with a family member but not sure on the exact details only bits and pieces.
Personal choice I guess on his behalf. A vs AA but if you are as good as he may be he will get looks no matter what level. Good luck to him as he progresses thru his high school career.
He was a Breck kid however his older brother also attended BSM from my understanding and yes it was an A vs AA scenario from my conversations with a family member but not sure on the exact details only bits and pieces.
Personal choice I guess on his behalf. A vs AA but if you are as good as he may be he will get looks no matter what level. Good luck to him as he progresses thru his high school career.
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Frosh
Freshman do not have much of an impact at varsity AA level (and some of the single A teams also) unless of course your club is scheduling the little sisters of the poor teams to rack up some numbers. For the most part those freshman kids can play a role on a team that schedules good to top end competition.
Re: Frosh
You must not have followed last season....PLENTY of impact 9th graders last yr..not just role players.northwoods oldtimer wrote:Freshman do not have much of an impact at varsity AA level (and some of the single A teams also) unless of course your club is scheduling the little sisters of the poor teams to rack up some numbers. For the most part those freshman kids can play a role on a team that schedules good to top end competition.
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Boyd
Boyd is the only exception along with Michealson from apple valley who put up some nice numbers too against some bona fide top end teams.
4 points against Kennedy or 6 points against Greenway (2 former great programs) are thrown out of the evaluation. When you can pad you numbers against teams like Cooper, Kennedy, Meadow Creek Christian, St. Francis and Chisago Lakes they kind of become an apples and oranges comparison. Oh yes stats out of the Missota are completel thrown out too

FORWARD
1. Travis Boyd Hopkins
2. Austyn Young South St. Paul
3. AJ Michaelson Apple Valley
4. Judd Peterson Duluth Denfeld
5. Nate Arentz Lakeville North
6. Christian Horn Benilde-St. Margaret's
7. Tanner Jordan Mahtomedi
8. Pete Krieger St. Thomas Academy
9. Gage Torrel Monticello/Annandale/Maple Lake
10. Mick Dhein Richfield
11. Erik Baskin Minnetonka
12. Derek Perkins Lakeville North
13. Michael Zajac Eagan
14. Garrett Aldrich Elk River/Zimmerman
15. Zac McCarver North St. Paul
16. Kyle Krueger Prior Lake
17. Sam Coborn Park Rapids
18. Jordan Revier St. Cloud Cathedral
19. Nate Traina Breck
20. Jake Oborsky Red Wing
21. Wesley Iverson Breck
22. Chris Gassert Moose Lake Area
23. Eric Carlson Albert Lea
24. Matt Jacobson Providence Academy
25. Aaron Rich Duluth Marshall
26. Dylan Zutz Red Lake Falls
27. Matt Pohlkamp Brainerd
28. Morgan Puncochar Mounds View
29. AJ Fossen Spring Lake Park
30. Cory Mack East Grand Forks
Others
Cody Lowe Providence Academy
Riley Williams Mound-Westonka
Jay Dickman St. Paul Johnson
Charlie Klos Waconia
DEFENSE
1. Derek Smith Apple Valley
2. Mike Reilly Academy Of Holy Angels
3. Eric Schurhamer St. Thomas Academy
4. Jake Horton Benilde-St. Margaret's
5. Brady Skjei Lakeville North
6. Jake Bushey Duluth Marshall
7. Brian LeBlanc Hermantown
8. Matt Pilot South St. Paul
9. Austin Rudnick Breck
10. Neal Goff Stillwater
11. Nick Auman Spring Lake Park
12. Marshall Klitzke Providence Academy
13. Grant Sattler St. Thomas Academy
14. Isaac Gorman Austin
15. Brandon Parker Faribault
4 points against Kennedy or 6 points against Greenway (2 former great programs) are thrown out of the evaluation. When you can pad you numbers against teams like Cooper, Kennedy, Meadow Creek Christian, St. Francis and Chisago Lakes they kind of become an apples and oranges comparison. Oh yes stats out of the Missota are completel thrown out too



FORWARD
1. Travis Boyd Hopkins
2. Austyn Young South St. Paul
3. AJ Michaelson Apple Valley
4. Judd Peterson Duluth Denfeld
5. Nate Arentz Lakeville North
6. Christian Horn Benilde-St. Margaret's
7. Tanner Jordan Mahtomedi
8. Pete Krieger St. Thomas Academy
9. Gage Torrel Monticello/Annandale/Maple Lake
10. Mick Dhein Richfield
11. Erik Baskin Minnetonka
12. Derek Perkins Lakeville North
13. Michael Zajac Eagan
14. Garrett Aldrich Elk River/Zimmerman
15. Zac McCarver North St. Paul
16. Kyle Krueger Prior Lake
17. Sam Coborn Park Rapids
18. Jordan Revier St. Cloud Cathedral
19. Nate Traina Breck
20. Jake Oborsky Red Wing
21. Wesley Iverson Breck
22. Chris Gassert Moose Lake Area
23. Eric Carlson Albert Lea
24. Matt Jacobson Providence Academy
25. Aaron Rich Duluth Marshall
26. Dylan Zutz Red Lake Falls
27. Matt Pohlkamp Brainerd
28. Morgan Puncochar Mounds View
29. AJ Fossen Spring Lake Park
30. Cory Mack East Grand Forks
Others
Cody Lowe Providence Academy
Riley Williams Mound-Westonka
Jay Dickman St. Paul Johnson
Charlie Klos Waconia
DEFENSE
1. Derek Smith Apple Valley
2. Mike Reilly Academy Of Holy Angels
3. Eric Schurhamer St. Thomas Academy
4. Jake Horton Benilde-St. Margaret's
5. Brady Skjei Lakeville North
6. Jake Bushey Duluth Marshall
7. Brian LeBlanc Hermantown
8. Matt Pilot South St. Paul
9. Austin Rudnick Breck
10. Neal Goff Stillwater
11. Nick Auman Spring Lake Park
12. Marshall Klitzke Providence Academy
13. Grant Sattler St. Thomas Academy
14. Isaac Gorman Austin
15. Brandon Parker Faribault
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Re: Boyd
I respectfully disagree. Austyn Young was arguably one of the best two forwards for South Saint Paul, who's schedule strength was in the top third. The same goes for Christian Horn of Benilde, who led his team in goals. Mike Reilly had 14 more points than any other Holy Angels defenseman. Nate Arentz and Brady Skjei were quite valuable to Lakeville North as well.northwoods oldtimer wrote:Boyd is the only exception along with Michealson from apple valley who put up some nice numbers too against some bona fide top end teams.
4 points against Kennedy or 6 points against Greenway are thrown out of the evaluation.![]()
Re: Boyd
At least 10 forwards and 10 def that can be considered impact players. Northwoods is way off on this one.The Exiled One wrote:I respectfully disagree. Austyn Young was arguably one of the best two forwards for South Saint Paul, who's schedule strength was in the top third. The same goes for Christian Horn of Benilde, who led his team in goals. Mike Reilly had 14 more points than any other Holy Angels defenseman. Nate Arentz and Brady Skjei were quite valuable to Lakeville North as well.northwoods oldtimer wrote:Boyd is the only exception along with Michealson from apple valley who put up some nice numbers too against some bona fide top end teams.
4 points against Kennedy or 6 points against Greenway are thrown out of the evaluation.![]()
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Northwoods is pretty dead-on with his statement. Look at who those players put the numbers up against. Look at the Reily kid 16 of his so called 26 pts were vs really bad teams the AHA out scored by 10 per game. Just look at the Playoffs last year 12 -2 vs Bloom Kennedy and 4-1 loss vs Edina. I would hardly consider that an IMPACT PLAYER! He was invisible in the game I watched.
Not to mention the "Phantom Assist" you know the ones the ref hands out fto the biggest cheerleader in the crowd.
Not to mention the "Phantom Assist" you know the ones the ref hands out fto the biggest cheerleader in the crowd.
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Young Guns
I give you boys props on some talent in the state for 1993 birth year but you boys are all wet if you think that putting the biscuit in the basket against the Holy Family is equivlent to potting one against the likes of Ford over at Eden Prairie or Larsen down at Centennial.
Not to mention a lot em 'tap out' (level off) as Seniors. There is a down side to moving up to fast too early should be a lesson to 'the don' over in Gopherland. Recall a kid by the name of Spehar. Helluva high schooler and just did not get any better, it does occur.

Not to mention a lot em 'tap out' (level off) as Seniors. There is a down side to moving up to fast too early should be a lesson to 'the don' over in Gopherland. Recall a kid by the name of Spehar. Helluva high schooler and just did not get any better, it does occur.
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Reilly put up three points (one of them a goal) against Hill Murray. I'm guessing that's not the game you watched.youngblood08 wrote:Northwoods is pretty dead-on with his statement. Look at who those players put the numbers up against. Look at the Reily kid 16 of his so called 26 pts were vs really bad teams the AHA out scored by 10 per game. Just look at the Playoffs last year 12 -2 vs Bloom Kennedy and 4-1 loss vs Edina. I would hardly consider that an IMPACT PLAYER! He was invisible in the game I watched.
Not to mention the "Phantom Assist" you know the ones the ref hands out fto the biggest cheerleader in the crowd.
Horn, a top player for the USA at the Five Nations tournament, put in two goals and an assist against Hill Murray, two goals against Minnetonka, two assists against Totino-Grace, a goal against CDH, and a goal against Shattuck! Obviously he had little impact for his AA school.

First of all, many freshmen do make an impact on their class "AA" teams. Second, why does everyone think that "making an impact" means scoring tons of points? Making an impact could mean; a freshman working hard during practices and games therefore pushing the older boys to do the same, or even going out there and getting pucks out of the zone, making plays in the corners and, for goalies, keeping pucks out of the net.
Why would you know these things?The Exiled One wrote:Reilly put up three points (one of them a goal) against Hill Murray. I'm guessing that's not the game you watched.youngblood08 wrote:Northwoods is pretty dead-on with his statement. Look at who those players put the numbers up against. Look at the Reily kid 16 of his so called 26 pts were vs really bad teams the AHA out scored by 10 per game. Just look at the Playoffs last year 12 -2 vs Bloom Kennedy and 4-1 loss vs Edina. I would hardly consider that an IMPACT PLAYER! He was invisible in the game I watched.
Not to mention the "Phantom Assist" you know the ones the ref hands out fto the biggest cheerleader in the crowd.
Horn, a top player for the USA at the Five Nations tournament, put in two goals and an assist against Hill Murray, two goals against Minnetonka, two assists against Totino-Grace, a goal against CDH, and a goal against Shattuck! Obviously he had little impact for his AA school.

Zach Foesch: I watched him play in the NAHL Prospects Tournament at the superrink in Blaine. He look'd very good. He's got very good hands and great hockey vision. He was a Advance 15 player for Distict 10 which I heard took 2nd. I talked with a friend who runs the Twin Ports Prep league. I guess he scored 5 goals and had 3 assists against alot of seniors. I had heard that he went out to portland for the WHL prospects camp which was only 2 days they told him to stay for the week and said they want him back next year. Benik Tj Belise and Zack Foesch not a bad line.
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Ummm, if Zack stayed in Portland for more than two days he may have potentially jeopardized his NCAA eligibility. I'm pretty sure there's a 48 hour rule in regards to "professional" tryout camps. Does he not care to play college hockey?effort wrote:Zach Foesch: I watched him play in the NAHL Prospects Tournament at the superrink in Blaine. He look'd very good. He's got very good hands and great hockey vision. He was a Advance 15 player for Distict 10 which I heard took 2nd. I talked with a friend who runs the Twin Ports Prep league. I guess he scored 5 goals and had 3 assists against alot of seniors. I had heard that he went out to portland for the WHL prospects camp which was only 2 days they told him to stay for the week and said they want him back next year. Benik Tj Belise and Zack Foesch not a bad line.