Toughest Conference in the State ??

Daulton911 · Post by **Daulton911** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 9:27 am

Just out of curiousity: What is the viewers opinion on the toughest Conference in the State? No reason for the question, just to get veiwers opinions. Thanks

Post by **karl(east)** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:38 am

I'd give my vote to the NWSC this year. It has six teams who are probably in the AA top 25 (Blaine, Centennial, Elk River, Andover, Osseo, Maple Grove), so the competition should be excellent. Some others can match the strength at the top, but not the depth.

slapstkhound · Post by **slapstkhound** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 4:06 pm

karl(east) wrote:I'd give my vote to the NWSC this year. It has six teams who are probably in the AA top 25 (Blaine, Centennial, Elk River, Andover, Osseo, Maple Grove), so the competition should be excellent. Some others can match the strength at the top, but not the depth.

What????? The Lake Conference isn't the strongest in the Universe this year? That's reassuring......

Toews is god 19 · Post by **Toews is god 19** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 4:55 pm

no doubt the NWSC its always very deep night in and night out you gotta show up or you'll get beat

nikebauer05 · Post by **nikebauer05** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:11 pm

Toews is god 19 wrote:no doubt the NWSC its always very deep night in and night out you gotta show up or you'll get beat

sure it has depth, but it still doesn't have anyone in the top 5. It's a solid conference but I wouldn't put it as the toughest conference.

Post by **karl(east)** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:19 pm

nikebauer05 wrote:
Toews is god 19 wrote:no doubt the NWSC its always very deep night in and night out you gotta show up or you'll get beat
sure it has depth, but it still doesn't have anyone in the top 5. It's a solid conference but I wouldn't put it as the toughest conference.

What about Blaine?

nikebauer05 · Post by **nikebauer05** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:28 pm

karl(east) wrote:
nikebauer05 wrote:
Toews is god 19 wrote:no doubt the NWSC its always very deep night in and night out you gotta show up or you'll get beat
sure it has depth, but it still doesn't have anyone in the top 5. It's a solid conference but I wouldn't put it as the toughest conference.
What about Blaine?

Blaine is good but are they in the top 5? I guess they might be in yours but in others they aren't. But I don't want to be putting too much emphesis on preseason rankings

Goldy Gopher · Post by **Goldy Gopher** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:27 pm

nikebauer05 wrote:
Toews is god 19 wrote:no doubt the NWSC its always very deep night in and night out you gotta show up or you'll get beat
sure it has depth, but it still doesn't have anyone in the top 5. It's a solid conference but I wouldn't put it as the toughest conference.

So then what's your pick Zen Master?

MNHockeyFan · Post by **MNHockeyFan** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:33 pm

Last year for the Classic Lake, but of their 5 teams Karl has 3 of them in his Top 15, including Minnetonka at No. 2.

nikebauer05 · Post by **nikebauer05** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:54 pm

MNHockeyFan wrote:Last year for the Classic Lake, but of their 5 teams Karl has 3 of them in his Top 15, including Minnetonka at No. 2.

Agreed, the Classic Lake was one of the toughest last year, if not the toughest and this year it is still good with Minnetonka, Edina and Wayzata. I'm not sure if Hopkins will be any good this year though.

Post by **karl(east)** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:54 pm

A quick look (me/LPH/FTP rankings):

NWSC
Blaine 5/4/7
Centennial 12/11/16
Elk River 10/13/9
Andover -/20/15
Maple Grove -/18/17
Osseo -/-/19

Classic Lake
Minnetonka 2/2/2
Edina 11/6(?!)/12
Wayzata 15/16/18

Lake
EP 1/1/1
Jefferson 3/3/4
Apple Valley -/19/-

If I'd gone up to 20, AV would have been 16, and MG and perhaps Osseo would have been ranked too.

nikebauer05 · Post by **nikebauer05** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:58 pm

Goldy Gopher wrote:
nikebauer05 wrote:
Toews is god 19 wrote:no doubt the NWSC its always very deep night in and night out you gotta show up or you'll get beat
sure it has depth, but it still doesn't have anyone in the top 5. It's a solid conference but I wouldn't put it as the toughest conference.
So then what's your pick Zen Master?

The question is what is the toughest, not the "deepest" as some say the NWSC is. So my pick is the Classic Lake. Especially if Wayzata and Edina move up in the rankings. Also Edina and Wayzata will probably play eachother on saturday in a tournament, assuming the both win.
The "Zen Master" has spoken Goldy Gopher.

Papa Bergundy · Post by **Papa Bergundy** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:07 am

karl(east) wrote:A quick look (me/LPH/FTP rankings):

NWSC
Blaine 5/4/7
Centennial 12/11/16
Elk River 10/13/9
Andover -/20/15
Maple Grove -/18/17
Osseo -/-/19

Classic Lake
Minnetonka 2/2/2
Edina 11/6(?!)/12
Wayzata 15/16/18

Lake
EP 1/1/1
Jefferson 3/3/4
Apple Valley -/19/-

If I'd gone up to 20, AV would have been 16, and MG and perhaps Osseo would have been ranked too.

I think the Classic Lake and NWSC are pretty even this year. Minnetonka and Blaine are pretty even in my book, both are very legitimate state title contenders. Down the list Centennial and ER match up fairly evenly with Edina and Wayzata. I'm not really sold on the other three teams in the NWSC at this point in the season. I think Edina, Wayzata and certainly Tonka would beat them. So, since a higher percentage of the Classic Lake are better in my book, I'd have to say that's the toughest conference, but not by a long shot or anything.

I look forward to matchups between Blaine and Tonka, Wayzata and Centennial, Edina and Maple Grove, Wayzata and Osseo, and so on to help decide who truly is the superior conference.

BodyShots · Post by **BodyShots** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:38 am

nikebauer05 wrote:
Goldy Gopher wrote:
nikebauer05 wrote: sure it has depth, but it still doesn't have anyone in the top 5. It's a solid conference but I wouldn't put it as the toughest conference.
So then what's your pick Zen Master?
The question is what is the toughest, not the "deepest" as some say the NWSC is. So my pick is the Classic Lake. Especially if Wayzata and Edina move up in the rankings. Also Edina and Wayzata will probably play eachother on saturday in a tournament, assuming the both win.
The "Zen Master" has spoken Goldy Gopher.

If you want to get technical, by your standards, the toughest would be the Lake since they have the #1 rated team in it.

Now by my standards, the toughest would be the NWSC. Because they are so deep, you have more qaulity games during conference play.

nikebauer05 · Post by **nikebauer05** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 5:00 pm

BodyShots wrote:
nikebauer05 wrote:
Goldy Gopher wrote: So then what's your pick Zen Master?
The question is what is the toughest, not the "deepest" as some say the NWSC is. So my pick is the Classic Lake. Especially if Wayzata and Edina move up in the rankings. Also Edina and Wayzata will probably play eachother on saturday in a tournament, assuming the both win.
The "Zen Master" has spoken Goldy Gopher.
If you want to get technical, by your standards, the toughest would be the Lake since they have the #1 rated team in it.

Now by my standards, the toughest would be the NWSC. Because they are so deep, you have more qaulity games during conference play.

The classic lake has just as many "quality games", besides Armstrong. So I don't know what your argument is there.

fanatichockeyguy · Post by **fanatichockeyguy** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:10 pm

I think this year for the first time in quite some time the classic suburban will be one of the tougher conferences.
1. Hill Murray- With 16 returning players the Pioneers will be a force to be reckoned with
2. St. Thomas Academy- Class A Powerhouse with a few D1 Players this year
3. Tartan- A senior loaded team with a goalie that can be hot. Always a tough game even though they choke in the playoffs consistently.
4. Mahtomedi- Marshall is good. And the Zephyrs went to the tourney last year and have a lot coming back.

The rest is pretty bad but any one of these 4 teams can beat each other on any given night.

nikebauer05 · Post by **nikebauer05** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 2:13 pm

fanatichockeyguy wrote:I think this year for the first time in quite some time the classic suburban will be one of the tougher conferences.
1. Hill Murray- With 16 returning players the Pioneers will be a force to be reckoned with
2. St. Thomas Academy- Class A Powerhouse with a few D1 Players this year
3. Tartan- A senior loaded team with a goalie that can be hot. Always a tough game even though they choke in the playoffs consistently.
4. Mahtomedi- Marshall is good. And the Zephyrs went to the tourney last year and have a lot coming back.

The rest is pretty bad but any one of these 4 teams can beat each other on any given night.

Hill Murray gets a cake walk to the state tournament every year, it would be nice to see them get some competition.

youngblood08 · Post by **youngblood08** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 5:47 pm

Yeah a Double OT game and an OT game to get there is a cake walk. This thread is about "Conferences" anyways not Sections.

old goalie85 · Post by **old goalie85** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 6:14 pm

what about white bear,woodbury, cretin, stillwater roseville, moundsveiw,forestlake park

nikebauer05 · Post by **nikebauer05** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:11 pm

youngblood08 wrote:Yeah a Double OT game and an OT game to get there is a cake walk. This thread is about "Conferences" anyways not Sections.

It's a cake walk for any team that is actually good, a team that is worthy of being at state comes from 2AA and 6AA and sometimes others, and there are usually three from each (2AA,6AA) that should be in state but aren't because of the other sections being so easy. If Hill Murray was in 2AA or 6AA they would never make it to state.

HockeyMN1 · Post by **HockeyMN1** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:15 pm

NW suburban 1, Lake 2, Classic Lake 3. Conferences aren't really a big deal though compared to sections (and 6AA is murder).

youngblood08 · Post by **youngblood08** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 12:07 am

So again explain to me why you are bad mouthing Hills "SECTION OPPONENTS" In a Thread about CONFERENCES??

on a side note didn't Hill just beat a big 2AA power house that wasn't supposed to lose a couple of years ago??

edinahornetkid24 · Post by **edinahornetkid24** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 10:26 pm

karl(east) wrote:A quick look (me/LPH/FTP rankings):

NWSC
Blaine 5/4/7
Centennial 12/11/16
Elk River 10/13/9
Andover -/20/15
Maple Grove -/18/17
Osseo -/-/19

Classic Lake
Minnetonka 2/2/2
Edina 11/6(?!)/12
Wayzata 15/16/18

Lake
EP 1/1/1
Jefferson 3/3/4
Apple Valley -/19/-

If I'd gone up to 20, AV would have been 16, and MG and perhaps Osseo would have been ranked too.

The 3 top teams in the Classic Lake could beat any team in the NWSC and the Lake is probably a little better than the classic lake.

wblhockeyfan8 · Post by **wblhockeyfan8** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 11:47 pm

BIG 9!

Fire and Ice · Post by **Fire and Ice** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 10:59 am

we are going to find out shortly aren't we hornetguy.