Edina Invitational Tournament- Peewee A scores/etc...

[Snowmass]

December 30th- Jan 2nd. Peewee A
Pool A- Edina, Elk River, Lakeville, Roseau
Pool B- Eden Prairie, Wayzata, Centennial, Mpls. Park
Pool C- Chaska, Osseo/MG, STMA, Farm

[HockeyStorm]

I like ER in Pool A, EP in B, Farmington in C, and Edina as the wild card.

[InigoMontoya]

The defending peewee A state champs and defending peewee B champs and runner-ups are the wild card.

[old goalie85]

Farmington, ST.michael ...

[Night Train]

Pool B- Eden Prairie, Wayzata, Centennial, Mpls. Park

Probaly Minneapolis as the only Mpls-Park team is Bantam A.

[codemanh]

December 30th- Jan 2nd. Peewee A
Pool A- Edina, Elk River, Lakeville, Roseau
Pool B- Eden Prairie, Wayzata, Centennial, Mpls. Park
Pool C- Chaska, Osseo/MG, STMA, Farm

I like ER out of A, Centennial out of B, and Farmington out of C

[HockeyGuy81]

Pool B- Eden Prairie, Wayzata, Centennial, Mpls. Park

Probaly Minneapolis as the only Mpls-Park team is Bantam A.

No one cares about the semantics, just picking teams out of the pools.

[pedrosnchz81]

Wayzata 10
Centennial 1

EP 7
Mpls 3

STMA 2
Maple Grove 2

Farmington 5
Chaska 0

Edina beat Roseau

Elk River beat Lakeville South

[Snowmass]

Day 1 went pretty much as expected. Edina and Wayzata rolled, EP had hands full for a while with Mpls before winning 7-3. Maple grove had a nice come back to tie STMA. Ties always throw wrenches into pool play tourneys. Farmington won fairly handily over Chaska.

[Toomuchtoosoon]

for $25 a parent, you would think they could spend a few minutes and update the scores for all the divisions in a timely manner. Too busy counting the money I guess.

[Snowmass]

for $25 a parent, you would think they could spend a few minutes and update the scores for all the divisions in a timely manner. Too busy counting the money I guess.

I hear ya on the $25/per person for the weekend pass ($5/per game if your make it) And the updated scores is awesome when it's actually done. Not to defend the pricing, but here I go: most tournaments charge roughly the same at the end of the day I'd argue. Be it team fee, or gate fee or program fee or concessions it all is basically the same in the end. Dishing out cash to see my 12 yr old play after all other season costs..........well it sucks. But it is what it is....year after year. Either accept it or move on.

[ThePuckStopsHere]

for $25 a parent, you would think they could spend a few minutes and update the scores for all the divisions in a timely manner. Too busy counting the money I guess.

I hear ya on the $25/per person for the weekend pass ($5/per game if your make it) And the updated scores is awesome when it's actually done. Not to defend the pricing, but here I go: most tournaments charge roughly the same at the end of the day I'd argue. Be it team fee, or gate fee or program fee or concessions it all is basically the same in the end. Dishing out cash to see my 12 yr old play after all other season costs..........well it sucks. But it is what it is....year after year. Either accept it or move on.

Totally disagree, most tournaments charge a $250.00 gate fee. On a 17 player roster that is $14.70 per player and that covers any person that wants to come and watch that player.

Edina is charging $25.00 per person, on a 17 player team with say 2 parents that attend the tournament that = $850.00 and that is figuring very low. So they are charging at least 3 times more than other tournaments.

I for one had to shell out $75.00 yesterday. Everyone I saw coming in was pissed at the gate, if you want to call it what it is, it's Edina overcharging and taking advantage of their customer's. Just another reason to hate Edina

[Toomuchtoosoon]

But it is what it is....year after year. Either accept it or move on.

Missed the point-if you run a first class tourney, then update the scores in a timely manner as you advertised.

I actually like all the money coming into Edina

[Snowmass]

for $25 a parent, you would think they could spend a few minutes and update the scores for all the divisions in a timely manner. Too busy counting the money I guess.

I hear ya on the $25/per person for the weekend pass ($5/per game if your make it) And the updated scores is awesome when it's actually done. Not to defend the pricing, but here I go: most tournaments charge roughly the same at the end of the day I'd argue. Be it team fee, or gate fee or program fee or concessions it all is basically the same in the end. Dishing out cash to see my 12 yr old play after all other season costs..........well it sucks. But it is what it is....year after year. Either accept it or move on.

Totally disagree, most tournaments charge a $250.00 gate fee. On a 17 player roster that is $14.70 per player and that covers any person that wants to come and watch that player.

Edina is charging $25.00 per person, on a 17 player team with say 2 parents that attend the tournament that = $850.00 and that is figuring very low. So they are charging at least 3 times more than other tournaments.

I for one had to shell out $75.00 yesterday. Everyone I saw coming in was pissed at the gate, if you want to call it what it is, it's Edina overcharging and taking advantage of their customer's. Just another reason to hate Edina

Fair enough. I guess i didn't do the full analysis/breakdown. If that is so, then it's lame.

[MrBoDangles]

for $25 a parent, you would think they could spend a few minutes and update the scores for all the divisions in a timely manner. Too busy counting the money I guess.

I hear ya on the $25/per person for the weekend pass ($5/per game if your make it) And the updated scores is awesome when it's actually done. Not to defend the pricing, but here I go: most tournaments charge roughly the same at the end of the day I'd argue. Be it team fee, or gate fee or program fee or concessions it all is basically the same in the end. Dishing out cash to see my 12 yr old play after all other season costs..........well it sucks. But it is what it is....year after year. Either accept it or move on.

Totally disagree, most tournaments charge a $250.00 gate fee. On a 17 player roster that is $14.70 per player and that covers any person that wants to come and watch that player.

Edina is charging $25.00 per person, on a 17 player team with say 2 parents that attend the tournament that = $850.00 and that is figuring very low. So they are charging at least 3 times more than other tournaments.

I for one had to shell out $75.00 yesterday. Everyone I saw coming in was pissed at the gate, if you want to call it what it is, it's Edina overcharging and taking advantage of their customer's. Just another reason to hate Edina

Didn't you see the cake and champagne inside?

[Towelie]

But it is what it is....year after year. Either accept it or move on.

Missed the point-if you run a first class tourney, then update the scores in a timely manner as you advertised.

Pretty sure their website states the following:

"Scoring updates are provided throughout the tournament weekend by the Edina Hockey Association"

Please can you point out the part that says after each game, every second, by the hour .....etc......etc...

If you need a towel to wipe those tears away let me know I have plenty.

[InigoMontoya]

But it is what it is....year after year. Either accept it or move on.

Missed the point-if you run a first class tourney, then update the scores in a timely manner as you advertised.

Pretty sure their website states the following:

"Scoring updates are provided throughout the tournament weekend by the Edina Hockey Association"

Please can you point out the part that says after each game, every second, by the hour .....etc......etc...

If you need a towel to wipe those tears away let me know I have plenty.

At $25, they should have a hot mite mom escort me to my seat and ask if I'd like her to blow on my hot chocolate.

[hockey_is_a_choice]

Instead of complaining about Edina maximizing its profits by charging each parent a $25 gate fee, every association should agree to charge Edina parents a $25 gate fee when the Hornets partcipate in tournaments outside Edina. Other associations' parents would be charged a lower gate fee. Turnabout is fair play . . .

[HockeyGuy81]

What I'm completely shocked by is that this entire discussion has gotten off topic. That never happens on here. Maybe 2011 will be different (not a chance)

[InigoMontoya]

What I'm completely shocked by is that this entire discussion has gotten off topic. That never happens on here. Maybe 2011 will be different (not a chance)

In fairness, the topic does include "/etc..."

[observer]

PWA results link

http://tourneyville.com/results/renderP ... ketID=1150

[hockeyover40]

PWA results link

http://tourneyville.com/results/renderP ... ketID=1150

They're doing a nice job. Don't even have Fridays scores up yet.

[seek & destroy]

for $25 a parent, you would think they could spend a few minutes and update the scores for all the divisions in a timely manner. Too busy counting the money I guess.

I hear ya on the $25/per person for the weekend pass ($5/per game if your make it) And the updated scores is awesome when it's actually done. Not to defend the pricing, but here I go: most tournaments charge roughly the same at the end of the day I'd argue. Be it team fee, or gate fee or program fee or concessions it all is basically the same in the end. Dishing out cash to see my 12 yr old play after all other season costs..........well it sucks. But it is what it is....year after year. Either accept it or move on.

Totally disagree, most tournaments charge a $250.00 gate fee. On a 17 player roster that is $14.70 per player and that covers any person that wants to come and watch that player.

Edina is charging $25.00 per person, on a 17 player team with say 2 parents that attend the tournament that = $850.00 and that is figuring very low. So they are charging at least 3 times more than other tournaments.

I for one had to shell out $75.00 yesterday. Everyone I saw coming in was pissed at the gate, if you want to call it what it is, it's Edina overcharging and taking advantage of their customer's. Just another reason to hate Edina

Not to go 'hatin' on Edina but the entry fee was not a low one either. Usually if you are going to charge a heavy gate fee, the entry fee is low. Their fee was $725 per team. Add to that the gate charges and I could see where some people would be upset.

Also, for a holiday weekend tournament you quite often have a lot of friends and family that are around and would like to come watch the games so I agree that the $850 estimate is very low. They are making a killing on this tourney! And to the original question...why would they update the site with current scores? This way people have to come pay the gate to find out what is going on.

[buttend]

Also, for a holiday weekend tournament you quite often have a lot of friends and family that are around and would like to come watch the games so I agree that the $850 estimate is very low. They are making a killing on this tourney! And to the original question...why would they update the site with current scores? This way people have to come pay the gate to find out what is going on.

This tourney has 5 levels, 58 teams and 110 games scheduled. I estimate that each game will cost about $400. 1.33 hr ice at $187 per hour. $78 for 2 refs. ( 3 refs and 1.5 hours of ice at the BTM level) 1 EMT. 110 x $400 = is roughly $44K. 58 teams x $725 entry fee is $42K. At best this tourney is even without the gate fee. BTW the Bloomington tourney charged a $20 per person fee.

Tournaments are fundraisers for Associations. If you feel a specific tournament/Association is "taking advantage of parents and the situation" the best thing to do is not sign up for their events.

[seek & destroy]

Also, for a holiday weekend tournament you quite often have a lot of friends and family that are around and would like to come watch the games so I agree that the $850 estimate is very low. They are making a killing on this tourney! And to the original question...why would they update the site with current scores? This way people have to come pay the gate to find out what is going on.

This tourney has 5 levels, 58 teams and 110 games scheduled. I estimate that each game will cost about $400. 1.33 hr ice at $187 per hour. $78 for 2 refs. ( 3 refs and 1.5 hours of ice at the BTM level) 1 EMT. 110 x $400 = is roughly $44K. 58 teams x $725 entry fee is $42K. At best this tourney is even without the gate fee. BTW the Bloomington tourney charged a $20 per person fee.

Tournaments are fundraisers for Associations. If you feel a specific tournament/Association is "taking advantage of parents and the situation" the best thing to do is not sign up for their events.

With 58 teams and a likely average gate of $850 per team (2 people per player @ $25 ea X 17 players - not including grandma and grandpa) you have revenue of around $50,000. That's a lot for a youth hockey tournament. Also, you are right about not signing up for the events but a lot of times the parents, grandparents and players have no say in the tournaments scheduled - it is determined by the coach or the association board prior to the season starting.