Early season computerized Single A rankings

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:44 am

1 St. Louis Park (3-0) 40.0
2 Breck (5-0) 39.8
3 Hermantown (4-0) 36.0
4 Mahtomedi (4-1) 32.0
5 International Falls (4-1) 31.2

6 Marshall (5-1) 30.8
7 Rochester Lourdes (4-1) 30.6
8 Waconia (7-1) 29.3
9 Duluth Denfeld (5-1-1) 29.2
10 Greenway/Nash-Kee (4-1) 28.4

11 Warroad (4-2) 28.2
12 Thief River Falls (3-1-1) 27.8
T-13 Princeton (4-2) 27.3
T-13 Alexandria (2-1) 27.3
15 Mound-Westonka (4-2) 27.2

16 Virginia/Mt. Iron-Buhl (2-2) 27.0
T-17 Delano (3-2) 26.8
T-17 East Grand Forks (4-1) 26.8
19 Orono (2-1-1) 26.5
T-20 St. Peter/L-H/Le Center/M-L (3-1) 26.3
T-20 Detroit Lakes (3-2) 26.3

22 Northfield (4-1) 25.2
T-23 South St. Paul (2-1-1) 24.8
T-23 Albert Lea (3-1) 24.8
T-25 Blake (4-2) 24.2
T-25 Hibbing/Chisholm (3-3) 24.2

27 Luverne (3-1) 23.8
28 Litchfield/Dassel-Cokato (4-1) 23.6
29 Totino-Grace (3-3) 23.5
30 Chisago Lakes Area (4-3) 23.3

31 St. Cloud Cathedral (3-2) 22.6
32 St. Thomas Academy (1-1) 22.0
33 Legacy Christian (2-2-1) 21.8
34 New Ulm (3-3) 20.7
35 Silver Bay/Cook County (2-1) 20.3

36 Mankato West (3-3-1) 19.4
37 Simley (2-2) 19.3
38 Breckenridge/Wahpeton (1-1) 18.5
39 La Crescent (3-4) 18.3
T-40 Moose Lake Area (2-3) 18.0
T-40 Red Wing (2-2) 18.0

42 Duluth Marshall (3-3) 17.4
T-43 Prairie Centre Area (2-3) 17.0
T-43 Henry Sibley (2-3) 17.0
T-43 Rogers (2-2) 17.0

46 Minnehaha Academy (2-2-1) 16.8
47 Willmar (2-3) 16.2
48 St. Cloud Apollo (2-3) 16.0
49 Little Falls (3-5) 15.9
50 Eveleth-Gilbert (3-3)

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:58 am

From another computerized ranking

1 Breck
2 St Louis Park
3 East Grand Forks
4 Hermantown
5 Virginia
6 St Thomas Academy
7 Mahtomedi
8 Duluth Marshall
9 Thief River Falls
10 Delano
11 Totino-Grace
12 St Cloud Cathedral
13 South St Paul
14 Holy Family Catholic
15 Hibbing
16 Blake
17 Rochester Lourdes
18 Orono
19 Little Falls
20 Mound-Westonka
21 Duluth Denfeld
22 Warroad
23 St Paul Johnson
24 Sartell
25 International Falls
26 Waconia
27 Rogers
28 Willmar
29 St Cloud Apollo
30 St Michael-Albertville

TTpuckster · Post by **TTpuckster** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:06 am

Quite different.
Elliott, where are these from again?

observer · Post by **observer** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:07 am

They must have an old computer. As much as I like seeing STA 32nd those are silly.

Post by **east hockey** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:10 am

TTpuckster wrote:Quite different.
Elliott, where are these from again?

First one is QRF from minnesota-scores.net

Not sure about the second.

Lee

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:10 am

TTpuckster wrote:Quite different.
Elliott, where are these from again?

mn scores
and uscoho

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:12 am

http://www.minnhock.com/

This one is fairly accurate...

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:12 am

1. St. Thomas Academy
2. Breck
3. Hermantown
4. Duluth Marshall
5. East Grand Forks
6. Rochester Lourdes
7. St. Cloud Cathedral
8. Warroad
9. Thief River Falls
10. Mahtomedi
11. Delano
12. Totino-Grace
13. Hibbing
14. Orono
15. Virginia

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:22 am

Another ranking

1 Breck (5-0-0)

2 Hermantown (3-0-0)

3 St. Thomas Ac. (1-1-0)

4 Duluth Marshall (3-3-0)

5 E. Grand Forks (2-1-0)

6 Thief River Falls (3-1-0)

7 Roch. Lourdes (4-1-0)

8 Duluth Denfeld (4-1-0)

9 St. Cloud Cath. (3-2-0)

10 Mahtomedi (3-1-0)

11 Blake

12 Hibbing

13 Delano

14 Little Falls

15 Totino-Grace

16 Virginia

17 South St. Paul

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:23 am

And another

1 Breck School (2A) 5-0-0
2 Hermantown (5A) 4-0-0
3 St. Thomas Academy (4A) 2-1-0
4 East Grand Forks (8A) 3-1-0
5 Rochester Lourdes (1A) 4-2-0
6 Duluth Marshall (7A) 3-3-0
7 St. Cloud Cathedral (5A) 3-2-0
8 Totino-Grace (4A) 3-3-0
9 Thief River Falls (8A) 2-1-1
10 Blake School (2A) 4-2-0
11 Mahtomedi (4A) 4-1-0
12 Hibbing/Chisholm (7A) 3-3-0
13 Duluth Denfeld (7A) 5-1-1
14 Delano/Rockford (2A) 3-2-0
15 Rogers (5A) 2-2-0
16 Virginia/MIB (7A) 2-2-0
17 Little Falls (6A) 3-5-0
18 Warroad (8A) 4-2-0
19 Mound-Westonka (2A) 4-2-0
20 South St. Paul (4A) 2-1-1

Post by **east hockey** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:10 pm

elliott70 wrote:http://www.minnhock.com/

This one is fairly accurate...

Not sure about that

Lee

northern_guy · Post by **northern_guy** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:57 pm

wow...there is 1 minute of my life i will never get back. i am dumber for having read that first computerized ranking.

hockeydad · Post by **hockeydad** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:31 pm

QRF (minnesota-scores) ratings are always way off at the start of the season. Usually, by the time the season is half over, they settle down and look somewhat accurate

Here's how they looked at the end of last season

1 St. Thomas Academy (22-6-0) 152.4
2 Rochester Lourdes (24-3-1) 146.9
3 Hermantown (23-3-2) 139.7
4 Hibbing/Chisholm (17-9-2) 126.0
5 Duluth Marshall (15-11-1) 125.5
6 Virginia/Mt. Iron-Buhl (20-8-0) 124.1
7 Warroad (19-9-0) 123.6
8 Totino-Grace (21-6-1) 122.7
9 Breck (20-8-0) 120.7
10 Thief River Falls (19-8-1) 120.1
11 Blake (22-4-1) 119.2
12 Delano (18-8-1) 116.1
13 South St. Paul (17-10-0) 112.9
14 Little Falls (20-4-2) 112.7
15 Mahtomedi (14-13-0) 111.3
16 New Ulm (22-4-1) 109.2
17 St. Cloud Cathedral (16-10-1) 108.7
18 Sartell-St. Stephen (17-9-1) 105.7
19 Rogers (18-9-1) 104.4
20 Orono (17-10-1)

grandmeadowhockeyfan · Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:48 pm

ST michaels and holy family are double a teams this
year. might want to figure that out before
posting rankings.

another computerized ranking

1 Breck
2 St Louis Park
3 East Grand Forks
4 Hermantown
5 Virginia
6 St Thomas Academy
7 Mahtomedi
8 Duluth Marshall
9 Thief River Falls
10 Delano
11 Totino-Grace
12 St Cloud Cathedral
13 South St Paul
14 Holy Family Catholic
15 Hibbing
16 Blake
17 Rochester Lourdes
18 Orono
19 Little Falls
20 Mound-Westonka
21 Duluth Denfeld
22 Warroad
23 St Paul Johnson
24 Sartell
25 International Falls
26 Waconia
27 Rogers
28 Willmar
29 St Cloud Apollo
30 St Michael-Albertville[/quote]

blueblood · Post by **blueblood** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 9:26 am

It's St. Michael GMHF. YOU might want to get the team name right....

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 9:33 am

grandmeadowhockeyfan wrote:ST michaels and holy family are double a teams this
year. might want to figure that out before
posting rankings.

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They are not my rankings.
And you are missing the point, if that is what you are commenting on.
THAT is the point.

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 12:01 pm

blueblood wrote:It's St. Michael GMHF. YOU might want to get the team name right....

Both the MSHSL and the Hub list them as Saint Michael-Albertville H.S.

grandmeadowhockeyfan wrote:ST michaels and holy family are double a teams this
year. might want to figure that out before
posting rankings.

another computerized ranking
...
30 St Michael-Albertville

So you comment they are in AA then post a Class A ranking with them in it?

They are in section 5A btw...

observer wrote:They must have an old computer. As much as I like seeing STA 32nd those are silly.

The difference between PageStat2 and most other computer ranking systems is that PageStat2 uses info from last year in the beginning of the season. Most others just start fresh with all teams being equal at game 1, so beating a bad team by a lot is way better than losing a close one to (or even beating by a little) a good team.

It is what it is. But it evens out throughout the course of the season usually. Last year New Ulm was ranked high, so winning wins out in some cases, but for the most part it tends to be close.

GordonBombay99 · Post by **GordonBombay99** » Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:58 am

Those are some interesting rankings, many head scratchers, shows the computers need some tweaking maybe.

WayOutWest · Post by **WayOutWest** » Sat Dec 24, 2011 6:01 am

elliott70 wrote: 8 Waconia (7-1) 29.3

Definitely a problem with the ranking system. More "strength of schedule" calculation may need to be employed.
Waconia is now 9-2-1, but that first half of the schedule could not have been any easier. It is obvious that it was set up specifically TO create some wins.

Is this a good tactic or a bad one? Who knows?

Regardless, now that they are about to hit their conference games, this squad will drop like a stone.
This is a lower halfl of the "A" rankings team, at best.

Zamman · Post by **Zamman** » Sat Dec 24, 2011 6:33 am

Holy Family is in 6AA
St. Michael is in 7AA

Just saying

WHAFightingSaints · Post by **WHAFightingSaints** » Sat Dec 24, 2011 8:18 am

St. Paul Johnson is also AA this season. 4AA.

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