Thief river falls @ east grand forks.(1-22-13)

Prowlerhockey · Post by **Prowlerhockey** » Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:56 pm

With EGF loosing to Moorhead and trf crushing warroad on Thursday who do you think will win? Will it be a close game? Will it be a blowout? Thanks for your input.

shooter803 · Post by **shooter803** » Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:01 pm

EGF will get back on track against TRF & win by 3

Prowlerhockey · Post by **Prowlerhockey** » Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:03 pm

I feel this might be a pretty close game. I'm gunna say the score will be 3-1 in favor of TRF.

DekeDangler · Post by **DekeDangler** » Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:43 pm

EGF will face a team that wants to make a statement. TRF knows what it takes to advance, have the taste in their mouth and might want the "V" more.

Yes, EGF no longer has their perfect record to ruin, but TRF would love to be the first "A" team to hand them a loss. EGF lost to Moorhead because they were set up to fail. Their usual physical game was allowed to lack, key players were unable to make an impact because of strong coverage and fatigue is becoming very evident. Tweeten had a good game, but one person will not make a difference in this league.

EGF has depth with skilled skaters and plenty of size on Varsity as well as their JV team. Unfortunately, the coaching staff is relying to heavily upon certain players that are starting to burn out or are not dependable. We all understand that a coach will role two top lines and keep key players rolling in key situations. Some sources are questing why this is happening more than it should and why certain players are activated for Varsity when they have more reliable, as well as skilled players,on their JV squad.

EGF needs to make their adjustments now before they get any deeper into the season. TRF should be a good test for EGF to see which direction EGF is going to go. Will they continue to climb or start the downhill slide? TRF is very consistant at producing quality teams and have been historically very good at scratching and clawing there way back into things. TRF's current record isn't a factor for this game. EGF has a great record but the decisions being made by the coaching staff are coming into question. And not just because of their one loss. People are starting to wonder if they have the balls to make the needed changes to continue their success.

External influences and prior connections may be contributing to clouded judgement and poor decision making. A recent quote from the stands was, "You coach for the kids, not for yourself because of where you want to go."

I wish EGF well and look forward to seeing the results of Tuesdays game. Good luck to TRF as well because they have always been a fun team to watch and always give EGF a run for their money.

dusterbender · Post by **dusterbender** » Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:13 pm

I am not sure how a team with 1 loss on the season needs to make adjustments. Things seem to be working pretty well for the boys up Nort. This group in EGF has had immense success all their years since mites but the one hang up they have had hasn't been coaching... from what I hear from people there it is the overbearing parents. People going as far as chasing bantam coaches from the ranks mid-season...maybe instead of coaches making changes the parents and naysayers should stick to parenting/observing and let coaches keep doing what seems to be working out pretty well.
Its going to be a close one as usual for section 8 but I will go with the home team. 4-2 EGF with an EN. Should be an exciting finish to the year!

DekeDangler · Post by **DekeDangler** » Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:15 am

Dusterbender: True, very true. It is a disheartening situation when parents get involved because they think they have so much more power and try to influene a program. I guess I'm not familiar with the particular ousting of Bantam coaches. Out of curiosity, would you happen to know how that team did after the coaches were removed/replaced? Anyways, back on topic. Speculation and questions arise about any team doing well and how long they can sustain. Yes, there will always be naysayers and Debby Downers. Even with a team that only has one loss. I have to respectfully say, It's foolish to say that a team with only one loss doesn't need to make any adjustments. Why settle for what seems to be working well? This often creates complacency and sets one up to fail when it matters most. A great coach doesn't settle for what is working. A great coach identifies what is working and attemps to build on that and become even better. I give EGF credit for much success this year. You said that this group has had immense success all their years since mites. That's all well and good, but how many championship/state titles do they have since then? Are there weak links? Yes, I'm sure. Parents? Coaches? Players? If no one poses the questions then there are no checks and balances. Maybe they are content with the way things are and will be content with not taking the state championship. Devil's advocate. I wish them well and hope they have what it takes to make the hard choices for continued success.

dusterbender · Post by **dusterbender** » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:44 am

Deke: I truly am not tapped into the lines of EGF hockey enough to give out all the behind the scene details of the coach ousting. I am just a armchair Herb Brooks! I just brought up the observation that it isn't too often that the top team in the district makes a coaching change mid season. I as well believe that a team should always be pushing to get better and not be content on what it has achieved thus far but your clamoring for certain JV players to get increased varsity time may not be the answer. From the couple games I have attended I have seen at least 7-8 different D-men get significant ice...perhaps instead of bringing even more personnel into the fold it would be better to fine tune and work with finding the right pairings and adjusting gap control and/or d-zone coverage to get ready for the home stretch. I only bring that up because you have been posting to bring up new JV defensive studs since before the Red River game. I think we both can agree that there is no question that the D this year have been much better and consistent than the past few years.
Also as far as state championship you are correct there are none...just a lowly 2nd place finish in Bantam A.

Deathblow · Post by **Deathblow** » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:59 am

A couple of years ago, EGF tried having 2 bantam a teams, and a bantam b team...it was a distasterous experiment. The said coaching change took place on the "lesser" bantam a team, rather than the "better" one, from what I understand. I don't know the actual specifics, but I thought there were other circumstances, than overbearing parents. I also think that last year's bantams also took 3rd at state, as pee wees. Both are pretty impressive, as far as I'm concerned.

TTpuckster · Post by **TTpuckster** » Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:10 am

Deathblow wrote:A couple of years ago, EGF tried having 2 bantam a teams, and a bantam b team...it was a distasterous experiment. The said coaching change took place on the "lesser" bantam a team, rather than the "better" one, from what I understand. I don't know the actual specifics, but I thought there were other circumstances, than overbearing parents. I also think that last year's bantams also took 3rd at state, as pee wees. Both are pretty impressive, as far as I'm concerned.

Last year's bantams lost to Edina in the Championship game.

Deathblow · Post by **Deathblow** » Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:18 am

TTpuckster wrote:

Last year's bantams lost to Edina in the Championship game.

I'm aware of that...I was just saying that last year's bantams also took 3rd as pee wees.

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:28 pm

I'll take egf
7 - 2

DekeDangler · Post by **DekeDangler** » Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:55 pm

Duster: Very valid points but I don't understand my so called clamoring and posting about JV D studs since RR. That is completely inaccurate. I did mention adjustments to D in one previous post but have mentioned nothing of that since or here. Defense was not a focal point of any of my points on this particular board. I believe this is your interpretation and maybe there is something going on with EGF's D that I am not aware of that you are. From what I have seen and heard, I would agree with you that they do appear to be fairly solid and pairings and such are always an important factor to consider. Oberservations and heresay make us question what we see and what we think we know. We are all just trying to figure it out along the way.

defense · Post by **defense** » Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:33 pm

At least the guys at east side have themselves a shot..

PuckSwami · Post by **PuckSwami** » Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:02 am

Why don't we let the coaches coach and the players play and see how this plays out. This team lost their first game of the season on January 17, almost 2 full months into the season and people seem to be writing EGF off. Seriously people! The juniors and sophomores on the JV can use the year to mature both their game and their bodies, they still have 1 to 2 years ahead of them to play varsity.

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:39 pm

PuckSwami wrote:Why don't we let the coaches coach and the players play and see how this plays out. This team lost their first game of the season on January 17, almost 2 full months into the season and people seem to be writing EGF off. Seriously people! The juniors and sophomores on the JV can use the year to mature both their game and their bodies, they still have 1 to 2 years ahead of them to play varsity.

As long as you are here, SWAMI,
give us a prediction on the game.

PuckSwami · Post by **PuckSwami** » Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:29 pm

[quote="elliott70"][quote="PuckSwami"]Why don't we let the coaches coach and the players play and see how this plays out. This team lost their first game of the season on January 17, almost 2 full months into the season and people seem to be writing EGF off. Seriously people! The juniors and sophomores on the JV can use the year to mature both their game and their bodies, they still have 1 to 2 years ahead of them to play varsity.[/quote]

As long as you are here, SWAMI,
give us a prediction on the game.[/quote]

TRF JV 1
EGF JV 6

After the game, tell me who you thought EGF should move up to the varsity and why.

Deathblow · Post by **Deathblow** » Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:35 pm

From what I've seen, EGF has rotated their 6th dman among Selk, Peabody, and Larson(?)...and Jace Pesch has gotten a little time on varsity, at forward. None of the players on the JV are ready to make an impact on varsity...let them mature, just as Swami said. I think EGF should be able to pull this out, at home, 4-2.

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:09 pm

PuckSwami wrote:
elliott70 wrote:
PuckSwami wrote:Why don't we let the coaches coach and the players play and see how this plays out. This team lost their first game of the season on January 17, almost 2 full months into the season and people seem to be writing EGF off. Seriously people! The juniors and sophomores on the JV can use the year to mature both their game and their bodies, they still have 1 to 2 years ahead of them to play varsity.
As long as you are here, SWAMI,
give us a prediction on the game.
TRF JV 1
EGF JV 6

After the game, tell me who you thought EGF should move up to the varsity and why.

As for me, I leave that to the coaches.

Prowlerhockey · Post by **Prowlerhockey** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:39 pm

Will anyone be at this game tonight?

TTpuckster · Post by **TTpuckster** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:45 pm

Prowlerhockey wrote:Will anyone be at this game tonight?

I won't, but it will be spotlight game on the minnesota hockey hub.
Tim usually gives a very regular updates on the game as it goes along, including shots, etc

You will be able to follow it there.

PuckSwami · Post by **PuckSwami** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:48 pm

TRF radio will probably cover it and they have on-line streaming options. I think KNOX out of Grand Forks is covering basketball tonight.

Prowlerhockey · Post by **Prowlerhockey** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:14 pm

After first period...trf-4...EGF-1

Prowlerhockey · Post by **Prowlerhockey** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:56 pm

Same score of 4-1 in favor of TRF after 2nd period

PuckU126 · Post by **PuckU126** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:58 pm

Prowlerhockey wrote:Same score of 4-1 in favor of TRF after 2nd period

Just watch EGF pull a rabbit out of their hat.

Prowlerhockey · Post by **Prowlerhockey** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:03 pm

PuckU126 wrote:
Prowlerhockey wrote:Same score of 4-1 in favor of TRF after 2nd period
Just watch EGF pull a rabbit out of their hat.

to be honest,I am a little nervous about EGF in the final period. We'll see what happens.

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