Different Teams at the Xcel

[greenway1969]

Some different teams at the State Tournament would create a more exciting atmospherre. The same teams (Edina, Hill-Murray, Moorhead, Eden Praire, Blaine, Duluth East) year after year takes away some of the interest. What I would like to see.

Section 1: Rochester Mayo - Maybe having a Rochester team in the tournament would give their youth programs a shot in the arm.
Section 2: I'm torn between Burnsville and Prior Lake. I'd like to see Burnsville at the Xcel because they have the best student section in the state. Prior Lake would be good because they have never been to state.
Section 3: Hastings has been absent for a while and they have some decent wins.
Section 4: Like to see Stillwater so Housley wouldn't be able to do any of the broadcasting.
Section 5: Centennial, another team with a long absence.
Section 6: Holy Family
Section 7: Rapids becasue they have the best band.
Section 8: Brainerd, another first timer.

The tournament will be fun whoever makes it, but some fresh blood would add to the excitement.

[GPGT]

Good lord. There's a reason those teams probably won't be there. I dunno about you but I want to see the best teams there. Not the team with the best band or fans. If your first post was the tourney, I'd be willing to bet attendance would be way down

[preferhockey]

Would also like to see some new teams. Will still be exciting!

From a guy who likes the underdog.

[DubCHAGuy]

I'd say there is a pretty good chance you will see some combination of PL/Burnsville, Centennial, Rapids, or Brainerd this year. I also like seeing a few new teams mixed in with the traditional powers.

[MNpuckBlog]

Always nice to see new teams at the tourney. I was happy to see Eagan make it in 2011 after making their first appearance in 06. Centennial could be a team that could make it depending on their goaltending. When he plays good he can steal a game for them. I'm not totally against Edina making it since they are always good enough to be there, but they have made 6 or 7 straight tourneys so seeing a new team (Prior Lake) would be exciting to see. Holy Family would be a nice story if they made it, but their section is incredibly deep and they are probably a few years from having their program really grow to where they are a contender in the postseason.

[Snap Happy]

Section 6: Wayzata would be nice to see there. HF has zero chance of making it through EP, BSM, then Tonka/Wayzata. They would be a poor representation of the states toughest section.

[almostashappy]

HF has zero chance of making it through EP, BSM, then Tonka/Wayzata. They would be a poor representation of the states toughest section.

They would be poor representatives of Section 6 after having beaten EP, BSM and Tonka/Wayzata, one right after the other?

[Shinbone_News]

I know it would be completely crazy and expensive to do this, but it would be kind of cool if they seeded the entire state, sort of like NCAA basketball, and built the brackets that way (keeping A and AA distinct, OK).

Expensive, because you'd have to find a way to have #29 Luverne play #82 Ely, while #19 Roseau hosts #67 Winona. There'd probably be a greyhound traffic jam on I-94.

[old goalie85]

I'm sure the touny would make enough to cover it. How much would TV/Ticket /T-shirt/ thype stuff make ?? 64 teams both classes together. A on one side AA on the other. Final four would be top two from each class.

[hockeyhockeyhockey]

Some different teams at the State Tournament would create a more exciting atmospherre. The same teams (Edina, Hill-Murray, Moorhead, Eden Praire, Blaine, Duluth East) year after year takes away some of the interest. What I would like to see.

Section 1: Rochester Mayo - Maybe having a Rochester team in the tournament would give their youth programs a shot in the arm.
Section 2: I'm torn between Burnsville and Prior Lake. I'd like to see Burnsville at the Xcel because they have the best student section in the state. Prior Lake would be good because they have never been to state.
Section 3: Hastings has been absent for a while and they have some decent wins.
Section 4: Like to see Stillwater so Housley wouldn't be able to do any of the broadcasting.
Section 5: Centennial, another team with a long absence.
Section 6: Holy Family
Section 7: Rapids becasue they have the best band.
Section 8: Brainerd, another first timer.

The tournament will be fun whoever makes it, but some fresh blood would add to the excitement.

Man I go every year but if even half of those teams made it I would skip..what a disaster that would be..bring me Hill Edina, BSM Duluth East, Eagan, blaine, bring in a new section 1 team every so often and a new section 8 team hre and there that is fine

[urban iceman]

Some different teams at the State Tournament would create a more exciting atmospherre. The same teams (Edina, Hill-Murray, Moorhead, Eden Praire, Blaine, Duluth East) year after year takes away some of the interest. What I would like to see.

Section 1: Rochester Mayo - Maybe having a Rochester team in the tournament would give their youth programs a shot in the arm.
Section 2: I'm torn between Burnsville and Prior Lake. I'd like to see Burnsville at the Xcel because they have the best student section in the state. Prior Lake would be good because they have never been to state.
Section 3: Hastings has been absent for a while and they have some decent wins.
Section 4: Like to see Stillwater so Housley wouldn't be able to do any of the broadcasting.
Section 5: Centennial, another team with a long absence.
Section 6: Holy Family
Section 7: Rapids becasue they have the best band.
Section 8: Brainerd, another first timer.

The tournament will be fun whoever makes it, but some fresh blood would add to the excitement.

Man I go every year but if even half of those teams made it I would skip..what a disaster that would be..bring me Hill Edina, BSM Duluth East, Eagan, blaine, bring in a new section 1 team every so often and a new section 8 team hre and there that is fine

Then you might as well do like football and have an "Elite class" that will be the same teams every year at State

[celly93]

I think we can all agree that we like seeing different teams at the tournament as long as they deserve to be there.

[north_bear]

^^ Agreed. And by "deserved to be there" you mean they won their section. If they didn't win their section they don't deserve to be at State, pretty simple.

[East Side Pioneer Guy]

People say they want to see new teams. But money talks and you know what walks. And the money says people want to see Hill and Edina. They hope to see them lose,but they will pay to see them.

I want to see the best team from each section.

It's also nice to see the small schools do well. Like Hill.

[HShockeywatcher]

I know it would be completely crazy and expensive to do this, but it would be kind of cool if they seeded the entire state, sort of like NCAA basketball, and built the brackets that way (keeping A and AA distinct, OK).

Expensive, because you'd have to find a way to have #29 Luverne play #82 Ely, while #19 Roseau hosts #67 Winona. There'd probably be a greyhound traffic jam on I-94.

The other thing the NCAA does is use the top 4 as the top seeds, then they seed each region geographically. It wouldn't be perfect, but if we had 8 "regions" then it wouldn't be that big of a deal.

Like with any change, if enough coaches/ADs care and want something to happen, it will. Coaches seem to not have the same feelings that fans do...

[pucknight]

People say they want to see new teams. But money talks and you know what walks. And the money says people want to see Hill and Edina. They hope to see them lose,but they will pay to see them.

I want to see the best team from each section.

It's also nice to see the small schools do well. Like Hill.

I always find the "private schools make for empty buildings" notion funny.

According to the MSHSL, three sessions have drawn over 19,000 going back to 2005. BSM has participated in all three. Edina and Hill-Murray have been in two apiece.

-2008 Thursday Afternoon: 19,232
Edina vs Cloquet
BSM vs Woodbury

-2008 Friday Night: 19,547
BSM vs Edina
Roseau vs Hill-Murray

-2012 Friday Night: 19,197
Moorhead vs Hill-Murray
BSM vs Lakeville South

I find the 2008 Friday night session stands out as the least proportionate to school size. For example, the combined enrollment of those schools is 4,418. The next year, 2009, 18,032 people attended the Friday night session, the lowest Friday night total from 2005-2012. The combined enrollment for those schools (Eden Prairie, Blaine, Moorhead, CDH) is 8,242.

This probably is mostly due to coincidence, but I believe it does dispel the "private schools make for empty buildings" notion, at least for state.

If you find any mistakes in my math or anything like that, let me know in a civilized manor.

Sources:
Teams: minnhock.com
Enrollment: mnhockeyhub.com
Attendance: http://www.mshsl.org/mshsl/publications ... eyBoys.pdf

[DubCHAGuy]

People say they want to see new teams. But money talks and you know what walks. And the money says people want to see Hill and Edina. They hope to see them lose,but they will pay to see them.

I want to see the best team from each section.

It's also nice to see the small schools do well. Like Hill.

I always find the "private schools make for empty buildings" notion funny.

According to the MSHSL, three sessions have drawn over 19,000 going back to 2005. BSM has participated in all three. Edina and Hill-Murray have been in two apiece.

-2008 Thursday Afternoon: 19,232
Edina vs Cloquet
BSM vs Woodbury

-2008 Friday Night: 19,547
BSM vs Edina
Roseau vs Hill-Murray

-2012 Friday Night: 19,197
Moorhead vs Hill-Murray
BSM vs Lakeville South

I find the 2008 Friday night session stands out as the least proportionate to school size. For example, the combined enrollment of those schools is 4,418. The next year, 2009, 18,032 people attended the Friday night session, the lowest Friday night total from 2005-2012. The combined enrollment for those schools (Eden Prairie, Blaine, Moorhead, CDH) is 8,242.

This probably is mostly due to coincidence, but I believe it does dispel the "private schools make for empty buildings" notion, at least for state.

If you find any mistakes in my math or anything like that, let me know in a civilized manor.

Sources:
Teams: minnhock.com
Enrollment: mnhockeyhub.com
Attendance: http://www.mshsl.org/mshsl/publications ... eyBoys.pdf

Agreed. Public vs. Private or any small northern school vs. big suburban school make for the largest crowds and best atmosphere.

[SPUDNUT]

Some different teams at the State Tournament would create a more exciting atmospherre. The same teams (Edina, Hill-Murray, Moorhead, Eden Praire, Blaine, Duluth East) year after year takes away some of the interest. What I would like to see.

Section 1: Rochester Mayo - Maybe having a Rochester team in the tournament would give their youth programs a shot in the arm.
Section 2: I'm torn between Burnsville and Prior Lake. I'd like to see Burnsville at the Xcel because they have the best student section in the state. Prior Lake would be good because they have never been to state.
Section 3: Hastings has been absent for a while and they have some decent wins.
Section 4: Like to see Stillwater so Housley wouldn't be able to do any of the broadcasting.
Section 5: Centennial, another team with a long absence.
Section 6: Holy Family
Section 7: Rapids becasue they have the best band.
Section 8: Brainerd, another first timer.

The tournament will be fun whoever makes it, but some fresh blood would add to the excitement.

You left out Greenway !

[Doc Holliday]

If you don't have an Edina or Hill-Murray, who's everyone going to cheer against?

Villans are necessary for a great state tournament. And I like upsets too, but be careful what you wish for. Everyone loved Lakeville South beating Duluth East last year, but the reward was the drubbing Benilde put on them the next night.

[Tenoverpar]

Section 4: Like to see Stillwater so Housley wouldn't be able to do any of the broadcasting

that's a funny quote....Stillwater lost their best defensive player to the USHL a month ago..they've struggled to regain their game since

[celly93]

Well, you got your wish. Four new teams, three that haven't been to the tournament in quite some time.

[HShockeywatcher]

Well, you got your wish. Four new teams, three that haven't been to the tournament in quite some time.

While few care about Class A:

EGF: First tournament in 11 years.
Apollo: First tournament in 29 years.
Marshall: First tournament ever.

It'll be cool to see some new teams out there.

[thestickler07]

If you got the top 64 teams out of subsections for a state tournament an interesting twist would be random draw every round FA Cup style.

Just put 64 names in a tumbler and draw them out two by two, played at home sites with the smaller school by enrollment getting home ice. After the first round is done throw the 32 names back in the tumbler and repeat until you are down to 8 when they go to St. Paul.

Obviously would never happen because of the fear of the nightmare #1 vs #2 matchup round one, but it would undoubtedly create some great matchups and a lot of excitement. People would be huddling around radios and TVs starting middle of February listening to who's going to play who and how long the road trip would be. Plus with the smaller enrollment home ice advantage you would have a lot of metro teams heading up north which could make for some excitement.

Think about having Edina or BSM having to go to Amsoil to play East in a state tourney game. Or BSM having to make the trek to Roseau for a first round game.

[hawkhockey]

If you got the top 64 teams out of subsections for a state tournament an interesting twist would be random draw every round FA Cup style.

Just put 64 names in a tumbler and draw them out two by two, played at home sites with the smaller school by enrollment getting home ice. After the first round is done throw the 32 names back in the tumbler and repeat until you are down to 8 when they go to St. Paul.

Obviously would never happen because of the fear of the nightmare #1 vs #2 matchup round one, but it would undoubtedly create some great matchups and a lot of excitement. People would be huddling around radios and TVs starting middle of February listening to who's going to play who and how long the road trip would be. Plus with the smaller enrollment home ice advantage you would have a lot of metro teams heading up north which could make for some excitement.

Think about having Edina or BSM having to go to Amsoil to play East in a state tourney game. Or BSM having to make the trek to Roseau for a first round game.

Nice FA cup reference. I bet most people on the board dont get that. Go gunners

[BodyShots]

If you got the top 64 teams out of subsections for a state tournament an interesting twist would be random draw every round FA Cup style.

Just put 64 names in a tumbler and draw them out two by two, played at home sites with the smaller school by enrollment getting home ice. After the first round is done throw the 32 names back in the tumbler and repeat until you are down to 8 when they go to St. Paul.

Obviously would never happen because of the fear of the nightmare #1 vs #2 matchup round one, but it would undoubtedly create some great matchups and a lot of excitement. People would be huddling around radios and TVs starting middle of February listening to who's going to play who and how long the road trip would be. Plus with the smaller enrollment home ice advantage you would have a lot of metro teams heading up north which could make for some excitement.

Think about having Edina or BSM having to go to Amsoil to play East in a state tourney game. Or BSM having to make the trek to Roseau for a first round game.

Nice FA cup reference. I bet most people on the board dont get that. Go gunners

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