Is MNH set to change Regional format?

YouthHockeyHub · Post by **YouthHockeyHub** » Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:34 pm

YHH has learned of a change to this year's Regional format. One that would affect 3-4 teams in each region.

http://youthhockeyhub.com/minnesota-hoc ... as-a-typo/

Enjoy,

TS

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:06 am

this is being discussed currently.
In all likelihood there will be a special board meeting.

Deep Breath · Post by **Deep Breath** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:55 am

elliot: is this supposed to be kept quiet until something is decided? Only reason I ask is that I have spoken with 3 district directors this morning along with a couple of Region directors and they have all said they have heard nothing about this. Thanks.

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:06 am

Deep Breath wrote:elliot: is this supposed to be kept quiet until something is decided? Only reason I ask is that I have spoken with 3 district directors this morning along with a couple of Region directors and they have all said they have heard nothing about this. Thanks.

Then they are not reading their emails.

Most everyone I know MH board, coaches, tournament directors are aware of this.

So, no, it is not being kept quiet.

Both maroon and gold VP's are well aware.
DD's, I can think of at least 3 that have not voiced an opinion.
So, that might be the case for them.

YouthHockeyHub · Post by **YouthHockeyHub** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:26 am

Mark,

Can you establish when and if a decision will be made on this?

The DOCUMENTED information I have makes it look clear that a decision will be made (and obviously will be made soon)..but isn't clear when they will get the necessary votes to do it.

My opinion is that the change is not drastic, but it is very important to about 10-15 teams out there wondering. The sooner they know the better.

silentbutdeadly3139 · Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:31 am

YouthHockeyHub wrote:YHH has learned of a change to this year's Regional format. One that would affect 3-4 teams in each region.

http://youthhockeyhub.com/minnesota-hoc ... as-a-typo/

Enjoy,

TS

"Adjusted:

1. WBL (C1) vs. Minnetonka (A3)
2. Edina (A1) vs. Lakeville North (B3)
3. Lakeville South (B1) vs. Stilwater (C2)
4. Eden Prairie (A2) vs. Eastview (B2)

Commentary: Won’t be hearing many gripes from Edina or Apple Valley. Not sure Lakeville North likes how this “new” scenario plays out."

Why the apple valley reference ? guessing you meant Eastview ? "YHH caught this error when several readers brought it to our attention." and how did you catch an error that was pointed out by your readers ?

There are other examples that are confusing ... You may want to spend more time proof reading.

BadgerBob82 · Post by **BadgerBob82** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:38 am

Elliot: Why would a special board meeting be needed to correct an ERROR?

Would almost seem like it is not considered an error in the Board's mind?

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:40 am

YouthHockeyHub wrote:Mark,

Can you establish when and if a decision will be made on this?

The DOCUMENTED information I have makes it look clear that a decision will be made (and obviously will be made soon)..but isn't clear when they will get the necessary votes to do it.

My opinion is that the change is not drastic, but it is very important to about 10-15 teams out there wondering. The sooner they know the better.

The method of action is now being debated.
I think a decision will be made to make the change and go forward (or not) by noon.

If it goes the other way it will be voted on tonight.

The discussion has been with and without merit all morning (IMHO).

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:43 am

BadgerBob82 wrote:Elliot: Why would a special board meeting be needed to correct an ERROR?

Would almost seem like it is not considered an error in the Board's mind?

That is being discussed.
Some believe it is not an error (tournament committee said it was).
Some are saying that it does not matter, it is in the handbook and needs a special meeting.

Hopefully, those with power will decide how to proceed and we will (either way), hopefully.

YouthHockeyHub · Post by **YouthHockeyHub** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:53 am

silentbutdeadly3139 wrote:
YouthHockeyHub wrote:YHH has learned of a change to this year's Regional format. One that would affect 3-4 teams in each region.

http://youthhockeyhub.com/minnesota-hoc ... as-a-typo/

Enjoy,

TS
"Adjusted:

1. WBL (C1) vs. Minnetonka (A3)
2. Edina (A1) vs. Lakeville North (B3)
3. Lakeville South (B1) vs. Stilwater (C2)
4. Eden Prairie (A2) vs. Eastview (B2)

Commentary: Won’t be hearing many gripes from Edina or Apple Valley. Not sure Lakeville North likes how this “new” scenario plays out."

Why the apple valley reference ? guessing you meant Eastview ? "YHH caught this error when several readers brought it to our attention." and how did you catch an error that was pointed out by your readers ?

There are other examples that are confusing ... You may want to spend more time proof reading.

We are hiring a proof reader, please supply your resume via PM. The pay is off the charts high.

Another good catch by one of our readers!

Eastview High School is in AV and the players who play for EV likely live there. It is not a city...it was a subtlety. Sorry you missed it.

BadgerBob82 · Post by **BadgerBob82** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:54 am

Interesting that anyone could think having a team throw a District Championship game to get a better seed for the opening game is not an error?

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:10 am

A vote is in process right now.

Deep Breath · Post by **Deep Breath** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:11 am

No more an error that what could take place in the 3rd place game of D6, with the winner staying in the East Region and loser going to the South? Bit of an advantage to say the least with playing in the South compared to East Regions, if competing in the State Tournament is the end goal.

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:20 am

Deep Breath wrote:No more an error that what could take place in the 3rd place game of D6, with the winner staying in the East Region and loser going to the South? Bit of an advantage to say the least with playing in the South compared to East Regions, if competing in the State Tournament is the end goal.

Yes.

BadgerBob82 · Post by **BadgerBob82** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:36 am

3rd place team should have the option of staying in East or moving to South. Or format should have been altered to combine both regions to send top 4 seeds to State.

hockey59 · Post by **hockey59** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:48 am

BadgerBob82 wrote:3rd place team should have the option of staying in East or moving to South. Or format should have been altered to combine both regions to send top 4 seeds to State.

Same situation exists in District 10 Bantam AA - 3rd place team goes to West (Plymouth) 4th place team goes to South (St. Cloud).

3rd place team should have option of staying in West or going to South...but that's not how it's set up.

BadgerBob82 · Post by **BadgerBob82** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:51 am

I agree! #4 seeds should not be rewarded nor should the South region which only has 4 teams. Is MN Hockey Board discussing that fix or no??

BadgerBob82 · Post by **BadgerBob82** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:56 am

And possibly the best choice would be to let the #2 seeds choose?

MrBoDangles · Post by **MrBoDangles** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:57 am

We should reference back to our dialog last summer about "auto bids" and the "potential placement problems" in regions.

YouthHockeyHub · Post by **YouthHockeyHub** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:59 am

BadgerBob82 wrote:I agree! #4 seeds should not be rewarded nor should the South region which only has 4 teams. Is MN Hockey Board discussing that fix or no??

BB - I can assure that is not up for discussion. That horse has been beaten to death. It's not going to be changed now. Obama becoming a Rebublican is sooner to happen than that changing.

BadgerBob82 · Post by **BadgerBob82** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:03 pm

Bo: Or the statement MN Hockey will get it wrong and set hockey back 10 years. This is not about AA-A, it's about common sense and logic.

MrBoDangles · Post by **MrBoDangles** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:03 pm

This whole "pilot" season was destined to fail.

observer · Post by **observer** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:04 pm

3rd place team should have the option of staying in East or moving to South. Or format should have been altered to combine both regions to send top 4 seeds to State.

Where they go changes every year. Advantage one year and a disadvantage the next. I doubt the goal is to review and make changes every year.

observer · Post by **observer** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:05 pm

3rd place team should have the option of staying in East or moving to South. Or format should have been altered to combine both regions to send top 4 seeds to State.

Where they go changes every year. Advantage one year and a disadvantage the next. I doubt the goal is to review and make changes every year.

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:05 pm

BadgerBob82 wrote:I agree! #4 seeds should not be rewarded nor should the South region which only has 4 teams. Is MN Hockey Board discussing that fix or no??

No

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