ChiTown Shuffle

Pylon · Post by **Pylon** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:16 am

Some of our Minnesota teams are travelling out of state to compete. I believe the Blades and Miracle Gold teams are along with Euro Red in certain age groups. No Machine this year. This tournament gives us the first indication of who stands where. haven seen a schedule so don't know who the competition is but would have to think the Blades are one of the favorites.

barry_mcconnell · Post by **barry_mcconnell** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:49 am

For a supposedly high-end tournament they have a terrible website.

Towelie · Post by **Towelie** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:59 am

2000 Teams

DIVISION A
DIVISION B
DIVISION C
DIVISION D
A1. Bauer Selects
B1. Ohio Hockey Acad
C1. Minnesota IceMen
D1. East Coast Kings
A2. EuroAmerican
B2. Warrior Wizard
C2. Chicago Mission
D2. Reebok Nationals
A3. AZ Bobcats
B3. Minnesota Blades
C3. DC Selects
D3. DHI Octane
A4. Chicago Fury
B4. HoneyBaked
C4. West Coast Supreme
D4. Bauer West Selects

old goalie85 · Post by **old goalie85** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:53 am

Good looking Bantam tourny !!!! Should be fun for the kids to play in !!!

JSR · Post by **JSR** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:27 am

That is just the Elite AAA bracket that towelie listed and yes it's a nice looking pool of teams. They also have a "AAA" bracket which tends to be some pretty good high end open teams to low end invite teams as well.

JSR · Post by **JSR** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:30 am

2005 Elite AAA Bracket

1. 200x85 Blue (aka Bauer Selects)
2. 200x85 White (aka Bauer Selects)
3. Miracle Gold
4. Detroit Crush
5. Chicago Bruins

helightsthelamp · Post by **helightsthelamp** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:48 am

2003 Elite

Division A
AZ Bobcats
Chicago Fury
Warrior Wizards Selects
Chg Jr Blackhawks White
Bauer Selects

Division B
Miracle Gold
Team Illinois
DC Selects
Chg Jr Blackhawks Black
California Brick

Shinbone_News · Post by **Shinbone_News** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:27 pm

Towelie wrote:2000 Teams

DIVISION A
DIVISION B
DIVISION C
DIVISION D
A1. Bauer Selects
B1. Ohio Hockey Acad
C1. Minnesota IceMen
D1. East Coast Kings
A2. EuroAmerican
B2. Warrior Wizard
C2. Chicago Mission
D2. Reebok Nationals
A3. AZ Bobcats
B3. Minnesota Blades
C3. DC Selects
D3. DHI Octane
A4. Chicago Fury
B4. HoneyBaked
C4. West Coast Supreme
D4. Bauer West Selects

Bummer not to see Machine in this mix. Mission and Honeybaked were neck and neck for 1st place nationally @ Tier 1 AAA over the winter in the 00s. (And yes, they're pretty much the same teams as in the winter with maybe one or two different players). Selects will probably sweep all the elite divisions this year with Orange 00s playing in Detroit Elite Prospects instead.

Agree on the website. Terrible. Also seems to be the rule rather than the exception as soon as you leave the Minnesota hockey intranet.

Sauce · Post by **Sauce** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:49 pm

99 Elite

A1. East Coast Kings
B1. Vancouver Selects
C1. Bauer Selects
A2. Minnesota Blades
B2. Belle Tire Detroit
C2. Vancouver Vipers
A3. AZ Bobcats
B3. Reebok Nationals
C3. Chicago Fury
A4. 200 x 85
B4. Wolfpack Prospects
C4. Minnesota IceMen
A5. DHI Octane
A6. Chicago Mission

helightsthelamp · Post by **helightsthelamp** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:52 pm

2001 Elite Division:

Division A
Little Caesars North
Chicago Fury
Bauer Selects
MN Icemen

Division B
West Coast Supreme
DC Selects
MN Blades
Chicago Mission

old goalie85 · Post by **old goalie85** » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:33 am

What is 200x85 ??

InigoMontoya · Post by **InigoMontoya** » Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:38 am

old goalie85 wrote:What is 200x85 ??

the rink

Pylon · Post by **Pylon** » Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:08 am

who is in the 02 brackets

JSR · Post by **JSR** » Thu Apr 18, 2013 1:30 pm

old goalie85 wrote:What is 200x85 ??

As near as I can understand it, its a sister program or you might even be able to call it a feeder program to the Bauer Selects. http://www.200x85.com/

Note at the 2005 age group there are no Bauer teams as they are too young to identify, but then you start seeing Bauer teams and 200x85 teams in the 2004 age group.

JSR · Post by **JSR** » Thu Apr 18, 2013 1:31 pm

Pylon wrote:who is in the 02 brackets

http://www.chitownshuffle.com/schedules ... m#Position

O-townClown · Post by **O-townClown** » Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:45 am

Calling Mite teams 200 by 85 seems to be an obvious thumbing of the nose to Red, White & Blue.

Our Florida kids (Zoom Tan) opened up the tournament with a nice 5-1 win over L.A. Kings.

old goalie85 · Post by **old goalie85** » Fri Apr 19, 2013 12:54 pm

Now I get it !!

Survey · Post by **Survey** » Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:27 pm

Big win for 00 Blades against Warrior Wizards 3-2 who beat Honeybaked 5-3 earlier in day

old goalie85 · Post by **old goalie85** » Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:19 am

Congrats to all the Mn kids. Nice job

Pylon · Post by **Pylon** » Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:06 am

Looks like it was the Bauer Selects show in the elite divisions.
They won 2004, 2002, 2001, 2000. Minnesota teams made the semis in 04, 02, and 01. 04 TzT and 02 Blades made the finals.

JSR · Post by **JSR** » Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:02 am

Survey wrote:Big win for 00 Blades against Warrior Wizards 3-2 who beat Honeybaked 5-3 earlier in day

Just an FYI, the Honeybaked team that played in this tourney was without 5 of it's regular skaters. Not saying that is an excuse or anything just that it was not their winter team in whole. One of the 2000 Honeybaked coaches I spoke to over the weekend said the Bauer Selects team that won the 2000 bracket in this tourney was the best team they've ever seen or played this year at that age level.... he also said the second best team they played or saw this year was the Edina team they played during the winter season (considering they have played and watched the Mission & Toronto teams etc...that is high praise IMHO) but he also said that since Edina was not all 2000 kids on that team it was difficult to compare it totally apples to apples but was still highly impressed and complimentary. (disclosure my son plays for none of those teams

).

JSR · Post by **JSR** » Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:13 am

O-townClown wrote:Calling Mite teams 200 by 85 seems to be an obvious thumbing of the nose to Red, White & Blue.

Our Florida kids (Zoom Tan) opened up the tournament with a nice 5-1 win over L.A. Kings.

Interesting/funny you should say that..... Because on a similar note after two games of the tournament the folks at AHAI (Illinois USA Hockey affiliate governing body) called the tourney director and FORCED them to change to a BLUE PUCK for the remainder of the tournament at the 2005 level, they had been using black pucks and some parent (of arguably the worst team in the field) dropped a dime to AHAI and because apparently there is some mandate somewhere in AHAI or NIHL or something and the Shuffle registered as a USA Hockey event they were forced to use it the remainder of the tourney. It was just absolutley pathetic what happened when they made that change. It was like trying to play hockey with a super ball and the kids most hurt by it were the most skilled kids. Besides bouncing all over like a super ball the stupid puck would constantly stick to the ice, it was an absolute travesty to watch how frustrated these kids got trying to use that pathetic blue puck, games were no longer decided by skill but rather dumb luck of which way the super ball would bouce or when it would stick to the ice....etc... etc.... Shuffle directors need to pull their heads out of their rears and self insure this event so they don't have to adhere to that type of insanity during an ELITE Spring AAA hockey event... I can't even explain how painful it was to watch and frankly all of the coaches were pissed. I actually thought the Miracle Gold coach was going to pull his team out fo the tourney for about half a second he was so mad about it, not saying he would have but he looked ticked and it was really really bad. We must get rid of the blue puck, I hadn't seen one in almost two years can't believe the kids had to endure this at an Elite Spring event.....

This is nuts! · Post by **This is nuts!** » Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:21 am

JSR wrote:
O-townClown wrote:Calling Mite teams 200 by 85 seems to be an obvious thumbing of the nose to Red, White & Blue.

Our Florida kids (Zoom Tan) opened up the tournament with a nice 5-1 win over L.A. Kings.
Interesting/funny you should say that..... Because on a similar note after two games of the tournament the folks at AHAI (Illinois USA Hockey affiliate governing body) called the tourney director and FORCED them to change to a BLUE PUCK for the remainder of the tournament at the 2005 level, they had been using black pucks and some parent (of arguably the worst team in the field) dropped a dime to AHAI and because apparently there is some mandate somewhere in AHAI or NIHL or something and the Shuffle registered as a USA Hockey event they were forced to use it the remainder of the tourney. It was just absolutley pathetic what happened when they made that change. It was

like trying to play hockey with a super ball and the kids most hurt by it were the most skilled kids. Besides bouncing all over like a super ball the stupid puck would constantly stick to the ice, it was an absolute travesty to watch how frustrated these kids got trying to use that pathetic blue puck, games were no longer decided by skill but rather dumb luck of which way the super ball would bouce or when it would stick to the ice....etc... etc.... Shuffle directors need to pull their heads out of their rears and self insure this event so they don't have to adhere to that type of insanity during an ELITE SpringAAA hockey event... I can't even explain how painful it was to watch and frankly all of the coaches were pissed. I actually thought the Miracle Gold coach was going to pull his team out fo the tourney for about half a second he was so mad about it, not saying he would have but he looked ticked and it was really really bad. We must get rid of the blue puck, I hadn't seen one in almost two years can't believe the kids had to endure this at an Elite Spring event.....

Blue puck is terrible.. How USA hockey can't see that it doesn't work is beyond me.. That's a shame

O-townClown · Post by **O-townClown** » Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:40 pm

We watch the same thing and reach different conclusions. Games for Mites played with blue pucks are faster paced because it travels greater distances and kids have to skate farther. I don't have a problem with blue pucks.

As for a bouncing puck, what about an NHL game? That thing bounces all over the ice and the best players generally are adept at getting control of it on their stick.

Like it or not, blue pucks are in the USA Hockey and Hockey Canada rule book. Rather than complain about it, maybe you should draft the proposal to eliminate Rule 306(b).

I'm okay either way. Since it is in the book, it's pretty hard not to enforce. You somehow suggest we ignore that rule. I know some Mite players that wish you'd also tear up the pages that address slashing, cross-checking, and hitting from behind.

edgeless2 · Post by **edgeless2** » Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:59 pm

The question I have is why does the shuffle fall under USA Hockey rules at all? There was no checking at the 00 level which seems ridiculous. All of these players will be checking at Bantam level in the fall and every other summer tournament this year. Common sense would ask, why not let them prepare against kids their own age? It seems a disservice in this respect and throws the results into question, at least at the 00 level. No other spring/summer tournament uses USA hockey rules why does the shuffle?