Lakeville South at Burnsville

danglingnsnipen15 · Post by **danglingnsnipen15** » Sat Jan 10, 2015 8:30 pm

LS wins 6-1. Anyone else surprised by this score?

WestMetro · Post by **WestMetro** » Sat Jan 10, 2015 9:51 pm

Im not surprised. Been waiting for them to break out a little more.
Theyve got a top 10 metro junior, couple top 10 sophomores, probably the top freshman Jack Olsen, and from what Ive heard a reasonably solid base behind that. Havent been down to Highway 70 to Hasse this year, but I am interested in how this team develops over the next two years, although Swaney will probably be gone after this year I imagine. No doubt SATS has more insight and opinions on this program.

goldy313 · Post by **goldy313** » Sat Jan 10, 2015 11:14 pm

Oh no, now you've done it, you're going to get papa Poehling riled like the 3A people have done.

As for the question, me no I said before the season 1AA has 3 top 20 teams. (Karl will find some logic to throw this result out though) I still believe it though South replaced Rochester Century. Swaney may be the best player in 1AA, Zmolek may be up there as well, they just don't have the supporting cast the North players have.

eazy98 · Post by **eazy98** » Sat Jan 10, 2015 11:42 pm

I was at the game today and was expecting to see Burnsville win by a comfortable margin. Lakeville South played an excellent first and third period. Burnsville outplayed them in the second but couldn't find the back of the net.

The Lakeville South top line was impressive. For the most part they dominated when they were on the ice and looked fast. Swaney was all over with 3 goals and 3 assists. Jack Olsen also looked great all game. I was surprised to see he was a freshman, he didn't play like it.

If only Burnsville still had Boeser. It feels like they're a goal scorer away from being a very dangerous team.

Sats81 · Post by **Sats81** » Mon Jan 12, 2015 11:19 am

WestMetro wrote:Im not surprised. Been waiting for them to break out a little more.
Theyve got a top 10 metro junior, couple top 10 sophomores, probably the top freshman Jack Olsen, and from what Ive heard a reasonably solid base behind that. Havent been down to Highway 70 to Hasse this year, but I am interested in how this team develops over the next two years, although Swaney will probably be gone after this year I imagine. No doubt SATS has more insight and opinions on this program.

Swaney is excellent and their best player. Waterloo owns his USHL rights and he played a few games down there after season last year, I would bet strongly he is playing there next year. Knoepke and Ess the 2 soph D are very good players and are already getting a lot of attention themselves. Olsen is the best freshman in MN IMO. Wouldn't be surprised at all to see him committing somewhere soon with how early schools get younger kids to commit these days.

danglingnsnipen15 · Post by **danglingnsnipen15** » Mon Jan 12, 2015 11:35 am

Sats81 wrote:
WestMetro wrote:Im not surprised. Been waiting for them to break out a little more.
Theyve got a top 10 metro junior, couple top 10 sophomores, probably the top freshman Jack Olsen, and from what Ive heard a reasonably solid base behind that. Havent been down to Highway 70 to Hasse this year, but I am interested in how this team develops over the next two years, although Swaney will probably be gone after this year I imagine. No doubt SATS has more insight and opinions on this program.
Swaney is excellent and their best player. Waterloo owns his USHL rights and he played a few games down there after season last year, I would bet strongly he is playing there next year. Knoepke and Ess the 2 soph D are very good players and are already getting a lot of attention themselves. Olsen is the best freshman in MN IMO. Wouldn't be surprised at all to see him committing somewhere soon with how early schools get younger kids to commit these days.

Seems like LS has some promising young talent. Do you foresee a coaching change at South in the coming years?

Traxler · Post by **Traxler** » Mon Jan 12, 2015 11:36 am

I was surprised at this score. Losing 6-3 to Rosemount made me think that Lakeville South wasn't very good. I thought Burnsville was pretty good. Now I'm not sure about either South or Burnsville.

thespellchecker · Post by **thespellchecker** » Mon Jan 12, 2015 11:39 am

Big performance by the goalie for South, saved 39 out of 40. Now 3-0 on year, only 1 goal allowed. Wish the Wild could get a hot tender.

danglingnsnipen15 · Post by **danglingnsnipen15** » Mon Jan 12, 2015 12:01 pm

thespellchecker wrote:Big performance by the goalie for South, saved 39 out of 40. Now 3-0 on year, only 1 goal allowed. Wish the Wild could get a hot tender.

I have only seen Swail play a few times, but he has always looked solid in between the pipes.

WestMetro · Post by **WestMetro** » Mon Jan 12, 2015 12:27 pm

SATS, have your watched freshmen Sam Walker and Clayton Phillips for Edina Varsity this year, and if so does Olsen standout a lot more ?? Both Hornets were nationally rated Bantams like Olsen was , and now are getting a fair amount of varisity playing time. I think Phillips is in top 2 D pairs, and Walker playing 3rd or 4th line shifts. Walker got a shorty against Pioneers last Saturday, I think it might have been Malmquist in the box at the time.

I havnet seen Olsen playing varsity, so I cant make a comparison in my mind, although I probably saw him in Bantam Elite season last summer at BIG. Obviously he is generating a lot more points when looking at the Hub

Sats81 · Post by **Sats81** » Mon Jan 12, 2015 12:43 pm

WestMetro wrote:SATS, have your watched freshmen Sam Walker and Clayton Phillips for Edina Varsity this year, and if so does Olsen standout a lot more ?? Both Hornets were nationally rated Bantams like Olsen was , and now are getting a fair amount of varisity playing time. I think Phillips is in top 2 D pairs, and Walker playing 3rd or 4th line shifts. Walker got a shorty against Pioneers last Saturday, I think it might have been Malmquist in the box at the time.

I havnet seen Olsen playing varsity, so I cant make a comparison in my mind, although I probably saw him in Bantam Elite season last summer at BIG. Obviously he is generating a lot more points when looking at the Hub

Yes, I have seen them both play. IMO Olsen is the better player and has the higher trajectory too. His dad was a standout HS player for Burnsville in mid 80's, then played at CC and was an NHL draft pick. Mark is also about 6'5", so I would only imagine Jack will end up being a very big boy too.

Sats81 · Post by **Sats81** » Mon Jan 12, 2015 12:46 pm

danglingnsnipen15 wrote:
Sats81 wrote:
WestMetro wrote:Im not surprised. Been waiting for them to break out a little more.
Theyve got a top 10 metro junior, couple top 10 sophomores, probably the top freshman Jack Olsen, and from what Ive heard a reasonably solid base behind that. Havent been down to Highway 70 to Hasse this year, but I am interested in how this team develops over the next two years, although Swaney will probably be gone after this year I imagine. No doubt SATS has more insight and opinions on this program.
Swaney is excellent and their best player. Waterloo owns his USHL rights and he played a few games down there after season last year, I would bet strongly he is playing there next year. Knoepke and Ess the 2 soph D are very good players and are already getting a lot of attention themselves. Olsen is the best freshman in MN IMO. Wouldn't be surprised at all to see him committing somewhere soon with how early schools get younger kids to commit these days.
Seems like LS has some promising young talent. Do you foresee a coaching change at South in the coming years?

No. Problem with that young talent is Ann Arbor and the USHL will be pressuring soon (if not, already) and LS lacks the leadership/D1 coaching connections that LN has so don't be surprised if a lot of these young studs for LS bolt early.

Defensive Zone · Post by **Defensive Zone** » Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:59 am

danglingnsnipen15 wrote:
Sats81 wrote:
WestMetro wrote:Im not surprised. Been waiting for them to break out a little more.
Theyve got a top 10 metro junior, couple top 10 sophomores, probably the top freshman Jack Olsen, and from what Ive heard a reasonably solid base behind that. Havent been down to Highway 70 to Hasse this year, but I am interested in how this team develops over the next two years, although Swaney will probably be gone after this year I imagine. No doubt SATS has more insight and opinions on this program.
Swaney is excellent and their best player. Waterloo owns his USHL rights and he played a few games down there after season last year, I would bet strongly he is playing there next year. Knoepke and Ess the 2 soph D are very good players and are already getting a lot of attention themselves. Olsen is the best freshman in MN IMO. Wouldn't be surprised at all to see him committing somewhere soon with how early schools get younger kids to commit these days.
Seems like LS has some promising young talent. Do you foresee a coaching change at South in the coming years?

Hope not. It's comical to watch the coaching staff at work on the bench. Or not at work!

Defensive Zone · Post by **Defensive Zone** » Tue Jan 13, 2015 7:00 am

danglingnsnipen15 wrote:
Sats81 wrote:
WestMetro wrote:Im not surprised. Been waiting for them to break out a little more.
Theyve got a top 10 metro junior, couple top 10 sophomores, probably the top freshman Jack Olsen, and from what Ive heard a reasonably solid base behind that. Havent been down to Highway 70 to Hasse this year, but I am interested in how this team develops over the next two years, although Swaney will probably be gone after this year I imagine. No doubt SATS has more insight and opinions on this program.
Swaney is excellent and their best player. Waterloo owns his USHL rights and he played a few games down there after season last year, I would bet strongly he is playing there next year. Knoepke and Ess the 2 soph D are very good players and are already getting a lot of attention themselves. Olsen is the best freshman in MN IMO. Wouldn't be surprised at all to see him committing somewhere soon with how early schools get younger kids to commit these days.
Seems like LS has some promising young talent. Do you foresee a coaching change at South in the coming years?

Hope so.

danglingnsnipen15 · Post by **danglingnsnipen15** » Tue Jan 13, 2015 8:29 am

Defensive Zone wrote:
danglingnsnipen15 wrote:
Sats81 wrote: Swaney is excellent and their best player. Waterloo owns his USHL rights and he played a few games down there after season last year, I would bet strongly he is playing there next year. Knoepke and Ess the 2 soph D are very good players and are already getting a lot of attention themselves. Olsen is the best freshman in MN IMO. Wouldn't be surprised at all to see him committing somewhere soon with how early schools get younger kids to commit these days.
Seems like LS has some promising young talent. Do you foresee a coaching change at South in the coming years?
Hope so.

It appears that many would like to see a coaching change at LS, but nobody seems to think it will happen. Why is this?

DrGaf · Post by **DrGaf** » Tue Jan 13, 2015 8:35 am

WestMetro wrote:SATS, have your watched freshmen Sam Walker and Clayton Phillips for Edina Varsity this year, and if so does Olsen standout a lot more ?? Both Hornets were nationally rated Bantams like Olsen was , and now are getting a fair amount of varisity playing time. I think Phillips is in top 2 D pairs, and Walker playing 3rd or 4th line shifts. Walker got a shorty against Pioneers last Saturday, I think it might have been Malmquist in the box at the time.

I havnet seen Olsen playing varsity, so I cant make a comparison in my mind, although I probably saw him in Bantam Elite season last summer at BIG. Obviously he is generating a lot more points when looking at the Hub

Isn't Walker like a 16 y/o freshman? hardly fair to count him.

***edit: I withhold judgement ... he did play 99's in the summer correct?

Bluewhitefan · Post by **Bluewhitefan** » Tue Jan 13, 2015 8:50 am

DrGaf wrote:
WestMetro wrote:SATS, have your watched freshmen Sam Walker and Clayton Phillips for Edina Varsity this year, and if so does Olsen standout a lot more ?? Both Hornets were nationally rated Bantams like Olsen was , and now are getting a fair amount of varisity playing time. I think Phillips is in top 2 D pairs, and Walker playing 3rd or 4th line shifts. Walker got a shorty against Pioneers last Saturday, I think it might have been Malmquist in the box at the time.

I havnet seen Olsen playing varsity, so I cant make a comparison in my mind, although I probably saw him in Bantam Elite season last summer at BIG. Obviously he is generating a lot more points when looking at the Hub
Isn't Walker like a 16 y/o freshman? hardly fair to count him.

***edit: I withhold judgement ... he did play 99's in the summer correct?

I think he's a 15 year old freshman - birthday makes him too old for Bantams. Undersized and a bit over-matched most nights. Gets virtually no 5 on 5 shifts as a 4th liner. Most of his minutes come on the PK. If family history is any indication, he may not stay long.

WestMetro · Post by **WestMetro** » Tue Jan 13, 2015 9:39 am

I think both freshman, Walker and Phillips, are 99s

Bluewhitefan · Post by **Bluewhitefan** » Tue Jan 13, 2015 3:50 pm

WestMetro wrote:I think both freshman, Walker and Phillips, are 99s

Yes, but Phillips could have played another year of Bantams, as he is a later 99 than Walker.

Just Checking · Post by **Just Checking** » Tue Jan 13, 2015 4:35 pm

Bluewhitefan wrote:
WestMetro wrote:I think both freshman, Walker and Phillips, are 99s
Yes, but Phillips could have played another year of Bantams, as he is a later 99 than Walker.

Since this has become a Freshman discussion;

I seriously do not know what happened to the green and White fans from the East Side but I saw alot of Mikey Anderson in the Elite league. When talking about DMen and how they stack up to Current known commodities that are Freshman. Mikey is the measuring stick. He would be the best D on the Edina team IMDOA. He may be the best defender on his own team. I like Olsen alot and DZ can play, but MA is really, really good at the little details and he is a '99 I believe.

WestMetro · Post by **WestMetro** » Tue Jan 13, 2015 10:49 pm

Apologies to Just Checking and East Siders.

Easy to forget about MA in discussion of new youngest varsity faces, since weve gotten so used to seeing him ,and his size and mature talent, on the ice in so many venues

Yes he is in a 99 class by himself, standout varsity D1 commit as an 8th grader, and he is one of the the reasons I trucked over 4 times from West Metro to Aldrich last year and seen Pioneers three times so far this year. 'Cause Im assuming this will be the last year we will be able to see Mikey play for a while.

The other 99s noted in discussion, particularly Jack Olsen and also Clayton Phillips, are proving more freshmen can play with the big boys too, but MA and brother Joey paved the way for them....