Hockey Stats Accuracy.

[itsfoilcoach]

This was a topic last year, but it's still a interesting issue with consequences because there is no fix for it.

I was looking over the leader boards looking at stats from goals to assist, in which are pretty impressive to say the least. Then I switched to the goalie side of things and saw some pretty equally impressive numbers. Some shot totals got me thinking. Some games I looked at had shot totals between the two teams of 81 shots. Now my high school math says that's almost a shot every 30 seconds at one end or the other for 51 minutes. Pretty fierce pace. Is it possible, I guess, but not probable. The refs take care of the stats for the skaters, so the goals and the assists for the most part are accurate. But volunteer time keepers, parents, or student mangers take care of the shot counts for the goalies. It's too bad that there isn't a better way to keep track. These kids rely on the numbers for collage recruiting, or Senoir awards. Though I would assume that colleges understand they may or may not be to accurate at times. But that's the problem. Maybe the refs can hold a clicker in hand to keep it relatively accurate...or honest if that the issue. Dont get me started on the Hub, and the quality of their reporting on games which has been marginal at best.

[zooomx]

This was a topic last year, but it's still a interesting issue with consequences because there is no fix for it.

I was looking over the leader boards looking at stats from goals to assist, in which are pretty impressive to say the least. Then I switched to the goalie side of things and saw some pretty equally impressive numbers. Some shot totals got me thinking. Some games I looked at had shot totals between the two teams of 81 shots. Now my high school math says that's almost a shot every 30 seconds at one end of the other for 51 minutes. Pretty fierce pace. Is it possible, I guess, but not probable. The refs take care of the stats for the skaters, so the goals and the assists for the most part are accurate. But volunteer time keepers, parents, or student mangers take care of the shot counts for the goalies. It's too bad that there isn't a better way to keep track. These kids rely on the numbers for collage recruiting, or Senoir awards. Though I would assume that colleges understand they may or may not be to accurate at times. But that's the problem. Maybe the refs can hold a clicker in hand to keep it relatively accurate...or honest if that the issue. Dont get me started on the Hub, and the quality of their reporting on games which has been marginal at best.

Yes, scouts and coaches understand that shot stats are not too reliable. NO, refs should not be in charge of shots, it is hard enough for them to see all that is going on in a game to start with. I am sure most, if not all, college coaches, see a goalie multiple times and are not basing their interest on stats alone.

[rwb1351]

The refs take care of the stats for the skaters, so the goals and the assists for the most part are accurate.

Don't be fooled -- it is the coaches/managers who are entering the scoring online after the game. There are plenty of "phantom" assists and scoring changes that take place long after the score sheet is "finalized."

[sinbin]

The answer is professinal statisticians. However, the money isn't there so it's a wild west. Compare assits to +/1 (e.g., the number of assists for players who were on the bench during the play), the people who try to give both a 2nd assist and a goal to the same player (most of those are nipped in the bud), "I couldn't tell who touched it, so I'll give both players second assists", etc. That puck went through the crease, it must have been a save, the goalie touched it somewhere near the net (save). Compare one team's SOGs and the opponent's saves and see what the average % difference is (even after accounting for goals).

[TheNightman]

Dont get me started on the Hub, and the quality of their reporting on games which has been marginal at best.

I think it's pretty bewildering how much people take the Hub for granted. There aren't many, if any, sites in the entire country who do what they do.

[itsfoilcoach]

Dont get me started on the Hub, and the quality of their reporting on games which has been marginal at best.

I think it's pretty bewildering how much people take the Hub for granted. There aren't many, if any, sites in the entire country who do what they do.

Bad information in. Bad information out. The Hub is great in the respect of what it's designed to do. But it's relying on many deferent sources for it's information, and the acurracy of that that information is very questionable. I agree, on that there isnt many sites out there dedicated to this sport like this. Thats why it's important to find a way to make this site better in all aspects of documentation...know how and honesty. These stats whether fair or inaccurate are used to judge these talented ladies. It's too bad they aren't always indicative of their true talents in this regard.

[sinbin]

Data 80% accurate is better than no data at all. It's often true, but that doesn't mean we have to like it or can do nothing to improve it.