Roseau vs Bemidji

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:53 am

Section 8AA contest.

Must win for Roseau to have a chance to move to 1 or 2.

Bemidji pretty much on the outside looking in.
A win here gets them 5 seed lock and shot at 4 seed.

Need a few more section wins to get any higher than that.

Who wins?

Shortshift · Post by **Shortshift** » Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:59 am

Is Pollock at a 100% yet?

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:08 am

Shortshift wrote:Is Pollock at a 100% yet?

I believe he should be but I have not spoke to his parents or any of the coaches for two weeks.

zamboniexhaustinhaler · Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:34 pm

I'm picking Roseau, but should be a great game either way.

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 7:18 pm

3-0
After 2
Bemidji

Green and White Fan · Post by **Green and White Fan** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:50 am

Bemidji came out flying and their goalie played well. Roseau gave up too many odd man rushes and had a tough night. With that said, the officials had a tough night too. Penalties had to be around 8-2 and they did not seem to know when to blow plays dead when penalties were called. Then net was off by probably a foot or more on the third goal which was a back breaker. I always thought you got out of town refs for Section games, but that must be something that is just done around here.

TTpuckster · Post by **TTpuckster** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:11 am

Green and White Fan wrote:Bemidji came out flying and their goalie played well. Roseau gave up too many odd man rushes and had a tough night. With that said, the officials had a tough night too. Penalties had to be around 8-2 and they did not seem to know when to blow plays dead when penalties were called. Then net was off by probably a foot or more on the third goal which was a back breaker. I always thought you got out of town refs for Section games, but that must be something that is just done around here.

I must have something to do with green and white teams coming to Burrrrrrrrrrmidgi. Right Elliot

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:43 am

TTpuckster wrote:
Green and White Fan wrote:Bemidji came out flying and their goalie played well. Roseau gave up too many odd man rushes and had a tough night. With that said, the officials had a tough night too. Penalties had to be around 8-2 and they did not seem to know when to blow plays dead when penalties were called. Then net was off by probably a foot or more on the third goal which was a back breaker. I always thought you got out of town refs for Section games, but that must be something that is just done around here.
I must have something to do with green and white teams coming to Burrrrrrrrrrmidgi. Right Elliot

It is funny that I have to listen to the Bemidji people complain about the refs in EGF and Roseau. Now I have to hear it from Roseau people here.

Linesman was from Bemidji. I believe the Refs were both from EGF area.

Bemidji outshot the Rams, I don't think the refs had much to do with that.
Bemidji's Fitzgerald made the big saves , refs did not help.
Bemidji beat the Rams to the puck more often than not, not the refs.
3 feet off????
Bemidji was the better team last night.

TTpuckster · Post by **TTpuckster** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:10 am

elliott70 wrote:
TTpuckster wrote:
Green and White Fan wrote:Bemidji came out flying and their goalie played well. Roseau gave up too many odd man rushes and had a tough night. With that said, the officials had a tough night too. Penalties had to be around 8-2 and they did not seem to know when to blow plays dead when penalties were called. Then net was off by probably a foot or more on the third goal which was a back breaker. I always thought you got out of town refs for Section games, but that must be something that is just done around here.
I must have something to do with green and white teams coming to Burrrrrrrrrrmidgi. Right Elliot
It is funny that I have to listen to the Bemidji people complain about the refs in EGF and Roseau. Now I have to hear it from Roseau people here.

Linesman was from Bemidji. I believe the Refs were both from EGF area.

Bemidji outshot the Rams, I don't think the refs had much to do with that.
Bemidji's Fitzgerald made the big saves , refs did not help.
Bemidji beat the Rams to the puck more often than not, not the refs.
3 feet off????
Bemidji was the better team last night.

Yea, but...

It is much easier to:
1. Outshoot a team when they are playing a man short.
2. Make saves when the other team is a man short.
3. Beat the other team to the puck, when they are a man short.
4. Be the better team when the other team is constantly a man short.
4. And, most of all, get the calls in your favor from EGF refs when they don't have to play Bemidji again and they still have a game left with the Rams. Just sayin'

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:38 am

TTpuckster wrote:
elliott70 wrote:
TTpuckster wrote: I must have something to do with green and white teams coming to Burrrrrrrrrrmidgi. Right Elliot
It is funny that I have to listen to the Bemidji people complain about the refs in EGF and Roseau. Now I have to hear it from Roseau people here.

Linesman was from Bemidji. I believe the Refs were both from EGF area.

Bemidji outshot the Rams, I don't think the refs had much to do with that.
Bemidji's Fitzgerald made the big saves , refs did not help.
Bemidji beat the Rams to the puck more often than not, not the refs.
3 feet off????
Bemidji was the better team last night.
Yea, but...

It is much easier to:
1. Outshoot a team when they are playing a man short.
2. Make saves when the other team is a man short.
3. Beat the other team to the puck, when they are a man short.
4. Be the better team when the other team is constantly a man short.
4. And, most of all, get the calls in your favor from EGF refs when they don't have to play Bemidji again and they still have a game left with the Rams. Just sayin'

Of course if you play by the rules you are not a man short...
And not all the shots were with a man short, the big saves did not come when they were a man short, etc.......
Bottom line is Roseau HAD the refs in Roseau...
On the road they could not stay with the Jacks or with the SPUDs.....
Seeding should be
Moorhead, StMA (depending on tomorrow's game
Bemidji, Roseau, Brainerd, Rogers/Buffalo/ St Cloud.

No smiley face...
accept it.

Roseau is no longer the great and powerful OZ.
Moorhead, St Mikes, Brainerd... the paradigm has shifted.
Roseau will (is) considering a change to single A.

BluntInstrument · Post by **BluntInstrument** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:14 pm

Green and White Fan wrote:Bemidji came out flying and their goalie played well. Roseau gave up too many odd man rushes and had a tough night. With that said, the officials had a tough night too. Penalties had to be around 8-2 and they did not seem to know when to blow plays dead when penalties were called. Then net was off by probably a foot or more on the third goal which was a back breaker. I always thought you got out of town refs for Section games, but that must be something that is just done around here.

it isn't ... funny when you see the the ref's put on their Rams coats before leaving the Roseau rink

Goldyismoldy · Post by **Goldyismoldy** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:30 pm

elliott70 wrote:
Roseau is no longer the great and powerful OZ.

Roseau will (is) considering a change to single A.

With the swift stroke of an authors pen, (err.. keyboard) Elliott brings the Legion Mafia out of retirement.

Well played Sir!

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:16 pm

Goldyismoldy wrote:
elliott70 wrote:
Roseau is no longer the great and powerful OZ.

Roseau will (is) considering a change to single A.

With the swift stroke of an authors pen, (err.. keyboard) Elliott brings the Legion Mafia out of retirement.

Well played Sir!

Roseau has a few thing going for them.
Tradition.
Good hockey people working with the youth...( but for how long, we all get older).
Lots of ice time.
But is it enough to battle the resources of the metro. Moorhead has more than the rest and Brainerd and St Michael-A not far behind. And soon St Cloud, and Buffalo and Rogers may get to this point. I am not sure where Bemidji falls in terms of resources but at least similar (overall) to Roseau.

The question than is, 'Does Roseau go single A and battle with EGF (TRF and Warroad can be thrown in every other year or so)?'
Interesting question and I hear it bantered about by Roseau people.

Meanwhile the Bemidji student body continues to cheer, 'We hate Moorhead!'

GoldenBear69 · Post by **GoldenBear69** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:17 pm

To steal a line from Sid Hartman ... according to a close personal friend (from ROS I may add) that was at the game ... the penalties were ROS-6 and BEM-2 ... with 3 of ROS penalties coming after they were down 4-0. A few of them the result of undisciplined play - a contact to the head in retaliation to a BIG hit by BEM; an interference (slew foot) away from the play, and a trip so obvious that Elliott could have made the call from his perch.

mulefarm · Post by **mulefarm** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:27 pm

Is Rod Pickett still a ref?

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:52 pm

mulefarm wrote:Is Rod Pickett still a ref?

No, Rod has been retired for a long, long time.

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:53 pm

elliott70 wrote:
mulefarm wrote:Is Rod Pickett still a ref?
No, Rod has been retired for a long, long time.

Rod 'Mr. Zero' Pickeet from Baudette?

mulefarm · Post by **mulefarm** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:20 pm

The best homer ref in the north!

Green and White Fan · Post by **Green and White Fan** » Mon Feb 06, 2017 8:04 am

We can straighten out a few things, Roseau did not have the refs in Roseau, as we do not use home town refs in section games. Bemidji had more PP's in Roseau also. The net was off a foot, not 3 as Elliot mentions. Hockey has changed and Roseau is going to struggle to compete in AA, no doubt. To think Bemidji, because of a 3 year run here is more set to compete is silly Looking at youth results from this year, at the A level Roseau vs. Bemidji 6-0 and overall boys youth hockey Roseau 10-3 in win/losses over Bemidji. Tradition only gets one so far and numbers are the key and it will be very difficult in the future in AA. The seeding should be interesting. If Bemidji loses to Moorhead, Roseau should still have a strong case for 3rd, if Bemidji beats Moorhead then who knows where everything falls.

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Mon Feb 06, 2017 9:07 am

Green and White Fan wrote:We can straighten out a few things, Roseau did not have the refs in Roseau, as we do not use home town refs in section games. Bemidji had more PP's in Roseau also. The net was off a foot, not 3 as Elliot mentions. Hockey has changed and Roseau is going to struggle to compete in AA, no doubt. To think Bemidji, because of a 3 year run here is more set to compete is silly Looking at youth results from this year, at the A level Roseau vs. Bemidji 6-0 and overall boys youth hockey Roseau 10-3 in win/losses over Bemidji. Tradition only gets one so far and numbers are the key and it will be very difficult in the future in AA. The seeding should be interesting. If Bemidji loses to Moorhead, Roseau should still have a strong case for 3rd, if Bemidji beats Moorhead then who knows where everything falls.

Not saying that Bemidji can compete in AA, just don't think they will drop to A, if even possible. I have been a Roseau fan all my life, just looking at the facts. Moorhead has the resources. Brainerd and St Mikes could/should (and Buffalo, but do not know their situation). St Cloud as one team should become competitive. Rogers, not sure about them.

Those of us that have to wait every ten years or more for a shot have to learn patience, I guess. So in the meantime I am a Jacks, Bronco, Hawk fan, but cheer loud an often for ALL the northern teams.

What I don't cheer for is putting the blame on refs. You get good calls, you get bad calls, but most of the time the refs call the game and it is what it is.