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SEhockeyDAD · Post by **SEhockeyDAD** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 8:30 pm

There should be some good games: Wayzata v. Hopkins Coon Rapids v. Elk River Holy Angels v. New Prague Sibley v. SSP CEC v. GRG Lakeville S v. Lakeville N.

coachcorner · Post by **coachcorner** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 1:05 pm

BIG GAME WAYZATA AT HOPKINS DIVISION AT STAKE I THINK.

hockeyfinatic · Post by **hockeyfinatic** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 1:32 pm

Holy Angels at New Prague Both teams are undefeated in the Missota!

g0pherbabe13 · Post by **g0pherbabe13** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 2:50 pm

Lakeville North looking for redemption against Lakeville South. Emotions will be high yet again.

SEhockeyDAD · Post by **SEhockeyDAD** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 4:50 pm

I'm curious about the Coon Rapids/Elk River matchup. I haven't seen CR since November of '04, and wonder just how good they are. Elk River should give us an idea of how good CR is.

hockeydad · Post by **hockeydad** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 6:53 pm

I'm off to see that one right now

brookyone · Post by **brookyone** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 1:57 pm

No comments on the 14-0 EP vs. BK score? Ouch!! Not unexpected I s'pose. Just figured someone would mention it I guess. Guess EP doesn't call the dogs off...or maybe they did?? Edited by: <A HREF=http://p100.ezboard.com/bmnhs.showUserP ... ookyone</A> at: 1/11/06 1:59 pm

hubbaa · Post by **hubbaa** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 2:47 pm

brooky, i think ep had over 70 shots on goal. i thought the shots were scattered fairly even throughout the three periods. I maybe wrong but if not i don't think that is calling off the dogs....

FSDOG · Post by **FSDOG** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 3:00 pm

Goals by Pezon at 15:44 and Stoa at 16:20 of the 3rd period of a 12-0 game , are a bit much for me to swallow . Why would they still be playing ? other than to roll up the stats . Since they are the leading scorers on the team . why in the world would EP even shoot on net after they were up by 10 goals in the 3rd period . Dump the puck in the corner , pass the puck 3 times then shoot it wide of the net , the only reason they put up those kinds of numbers is to :HUMILIATE the opposition . GIVE ME A BREAK !!!!! Edited by: <A HREF=http://p100.ezboard.com/bmnhs.showUserP ... g>FSDOG</A> at: 1/11/06 3:38 pm

brookyone · Post by **brookyone** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 3:30 pm

I wasn't there so I was looking for some comments from someone who was. I thought they may have tried not to run it up any more with multiple passes required before shots or something...and then scored loads anyway...just wondering. Doesn't sound like that was the case. I think I noticed a late, unassisted goal by #29 in the summary...another indication they poured it on I s'pose. Edit: Apparently EP has little gratitude for those couple favors<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"> BK did for them. Edited by: <A HREF=http://p100.ezboard.com/bmnhs.showUserP ... ookyone</A> at: 1/11/06 3:39 pm

hubbaa · Post by **hubbaa** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 3:48 pm

dog, i agree with you. it tells me either ep has never been there before or the staff doesn't have a clue or hasn't any class. maybe all of the above...

sghfan · Post by **sghfan** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 5:54 pm

This is nothing new. If you look at boxscores through this season you will see that the first line scores late in the 3rd period of blowouts quite frequently. I would imagine the opposing coaches have noticed.

hocnut11 · Post by **hocnut11** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 7:48 pm

I'm surprised by that move by EP, that is a very low class move on their part. There was another team who has some of the top scorers in the state who were padding stats in the 3rd period of a game that was over 7 goals last night.

SEhockeyDAD · Post by **SEhockeyDAD** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 10:00 pm

I saw it last year too. Up 5-1 in the last minute of the game, EP's McCarthy (why's she on the ice?) raced through the neutral zone, past a half-hearted attempt at defense and scored a goal that a 3rd or 4th liner should have been trying to score. Trouble is, there isn't anyone out there this year who's going to run it up on them. Hopefully, there are coaches out there with long careers and a good memory. About Coon Rapids; I guess I gotta be a believer. They beat Elk River 3-2 last night. This year they've also beaten Centennial, Blaine and Anoka. UPSETS; Irondale beat Totino-Grace 3-2 Jefferson beat Eagan 5-2

defensedad · Post by **defensedad** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 10:37 pm

First I want to say that EP is a fabulous team. There is not many teams that can play with them, including Kennedy for sure. The score could have been 5 or 6 more for EP easily. Strong D and 3 Great lines. Balanced attack and very aggressive. In the first period #15 was by no means going for the points, she skated around at will, but passed off every time. She very seldom took a shot in the first period. On the other hand, they shot from the point a lot and went for the rebounds. Nothing wrong with that. The second and third periods were a lot different. The offense never let down. A lot of individual effort, except for #15 who was still in a pass mode in the second period, but definetly not the third period. That is when she went for the net every chance she had. Some success, but not as much as I would guess she wanted. Congrats to the Kennedy goalie on a great 51 save night. As for padding the stats comment, That probably is true, as both of the late third period goals were an individual effort, especially the last one that #29 scored with a wide open wing on her left, with 40 seconds to go, but decided to shoot herself. You make the call yourself.

Icallthemasiseethem · Wed Jan 11, 2006 11:04 pm

dog, Sometimes and for some teams it is all about points. A few years back there was a thread questioning when would be the best time to pull your best players off. I think the thread was started because of better players playing in the last few minutes of games against weaker teams. Some teams pull their players off in the second period, (points or no points) if they are playing against a weaker team. Some teams leave their best players on the ice for the all-important points. Let's face it, when it comes to awards points count.<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/ohwell.gif ALT=":\">

hockeyhead · Post by **hockeyhead** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:21 am

Wow! I see everyone wants to throw punches at teams with success. Has anyone looked at what average teams are doing to teams like Kennedy? Teams that EP is beating by 5 or 6 are beating Kennedy by 10. This is a tough call... I heard through the grapevine that EP was up 12-0 on Rosemount and scored 0 in the 3rd. Actually I heard they put only 3 shots on net and played a game of keep away/dump the puck in. I also heard the Rosemount coach would have rather had them score 5 more goals. It puts the coaches in a tough bind. Sounds to me like it's a catch 22! Another thing I've noticed when playing in lopsided games... Teams getting beat usually play hard until the last 5 minutes... then everyone shuts down. As I look back to the scorecard I see #15 from EP had 1 point in the third period. From what I heard the last time these two teams played EP's coach moved #15 back to defense in the 2nd and 3rd periods. Can't make all those judgment calls! I wasn't there, nor have I been at EP's practices, or sat in their locker room. What I can tell you is EP's #15 was the BEST PLAYER in the Kapoisa! In 3 games 13 points vs. some of the top teams in STATE. Look out for Coon Rapids! They find a way to win and they are flying under many peoples radar! Hockeyhead

hockeyhead · Post by **hockeyhead** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:03 am

Hubba, As a SSP Rube... Not you're place to talk here. SSP has always played their top line... Acutally they rarely have played their 3rd line...even when they were unbeatable! That's why they struggle now with top teams... Their 2nd line(formally their 3rd line) it's used to playing! I think EP, Stillwater, BSM, Wayzata and others play 3 lines... 1-2-3 without little changes... Hockeyhead

hockeyhead · Post by **hockeyhead** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 11:21 am

Is EP any different from any others this year vs. Kennedy? Here is a list of the game results from each of their games. Bloomington Kennedy (4-16) 11/10/2005 7:30 PM Apple Valley** L 1-13 11/12/2005 7:30 PM @Lakeville South** L 3-13 11/17/2005 7:00 PM Shakopee L 3-11 11/19/2005 3:30 PM @Eden Prairie** L 0-15 11/22/2005 7:30 PM @Burnsville** L 2-11 11/25/2005 8:00 PM @River Lakes -- L 4-7 11/26/2005 TBA Duluth East Invitational L 3-12 12/3/2005 7:30 PM @Eastview** L 1-10 12/6/2005 7:00 PM Lakeville North** L 1-12 12/8/2005 8:00 PM @Hill-Murray L 1-14 12/10/2005 2:15 PM @Bloomington Jefferson** L 3-12 12/13/2005 7:00 PM Eagan** L 1-10 12/17/2005 2:30 PM Chaska** L 0-12 12/20/2005 7:30 PM @Apple Valley** L 2-5 12/27/2005 11:30 AM @Tridents (IA) W 3-2 12/28/2005 TBA @Tri-City (Fridley/Heights) W 7-3 12/29/2005 TBA @Saints W 3-2 1/3/2006 7:00 PM Lakeville South** L 2-5 1/7/2006 3:00 PM @Rosemount** W 5-4 1/10/2006 7:30 PM Eden Prairie** L 0-14 I don't think so, but I could be wrong... It's been a while since I sat behind a bench! Also, lets all think about not spreading gossip and names of players. It's okay to talk about your favorites, but not cool to throw negatives out! Hockeyhead Edited by: <A HREF=http://p100.ezboard.com/bmnhs.showUserP ... keyhead</A> at: 1/12/06 11:43 am

FSDOG · Post by **FSDOG** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 11:40 am

head , I don't think the issue that is raising eyebrows has anything to do with the final score ! We all agree that Kennedy is way overmatched vs. EP ... as is almost everybody else ..EP is the best looking team , by far , that I have seen this season and I have seen a ton of games . The interesting thing was the players that scored and the times of the 13th and 14th goal ,they are the teams top 2 scorers ! 15:44 and 16:20 of the 3rd period . The names were shown in the boxscores of both local papers the next day , so it is not picking on players , the boxscore was in the paper . It has nothing to do with the players !!! If it is a D or 3rd line forward scoring those last 2 goals that late , it takes a different look . even though they could have skated the last 1:16 and gave the appearance of playing hard the whole game without scoring . I have no issue with the 1st 12 goals . EP did not make the schedule , it is a conference game and they have to play it ,, I just do not agree with the last 2 goals .. that is all , nothing else !!! Edited by: <A HREF=http://p100.ezboard.com/bmnhs.showUserP ... g>FSDOG</A> at: 1/12/06 11:43 am

zoe25 · Post by **zoe25** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 11:46 am

Hockeyhead - who are you trying to kid? Have you ever attended a SSP game? Wow, the jealously is pretty prevalent again. This is in no means an endorsement of Dave Palmquist, he can be criticized like any other coach, however, this particular criticism is laughable. The big 3 ROUTINELY would see about 3-5 shifts in the last 20-25 minutes of games - probably 8-10 games per year. Sometimes never touching the ice in the 3rd period. Its is also laughable to state the reason they struggle now is their last year 3rd line (this years 2nd line) didnt play hardly at all? This year - yes, 3rd line is very limited playing time wise as they have zero depth. Last year, are you kdding me? Seriously, where do you get this nonsense from? While SSP didnt go 1-2-3 all the time the 3rd line last year in reg season skated as much as any teams 3rd line, sometimes more. And even if that was true, to imply that this is why SSP is struggling this year - well thats quite a relief that we can blame it on coaching. Here we thought losing 3 of the best HS girls player of all time may been the reason. Perhaps one of them may have won MS Hockey had they gotten the 130 points they could have if Palmquist let them play in 3rd period all the time.

OnFrozenPond · Post by **OnFrozenPond** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 11:49 am

I'm not sure why a swing line would be used for games like EP/Kennedy or EP/Rosemount. In the case of Rosemount, the EP JV won 18 - 0. Then the Varsity won 12 - 0 after going into shutdown mode in the 3rd. It seems to me that EP could have given some of their JV players some varsity experience without putting the final outcome in jeopardy. I know their is a limit on the number of periods that can be played. Other than that why wouldn't a coach do this?

hockeyhead · Post by **hockeyhead** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 11:58 am

FSDOG- Yes, it looks bad reported in the paper. As a former coach I wonder what the situation was. Should they have been on the ice? That's a good question! Were the goals individual efforts, or did the player find herself in front of the net by herself and have to choice. It does look bad to shoot the puck into the corner. I'll take time to praise a couple players, not bash any particulars. Three players that have stats that show they are unselfish and share the puck! #15 on NSP, #15 on EP and #10 on Wayzata... All three of these girls know how to move the puck and make the players around them better. If you check their stats you'll see they have many points, but more assists than goals. Especially #15 on NSP, but it doesn't hurt to have a snipper on your wing! Anybody notice how well Bemidji is doing in the North... Slowly getting closer to the 20 win season. At 15-2-1 they look good! Hockeyhead

hockeyhead · Post by **hockeyhead** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 12:11 pm

zoe25- Stop...take a deep breath... You'll be fine! It's okay... wasn't ripping on SSP... Palmquist is a great coach... great tradition all the above... You forgot about a all state defender as well... They had not the big 3, but the big 4... Saw a lot of their games... but they were usually big games, not conference games other than NSP v. SSP... rarely saw the rest of their team. In my opinion it was a 1111 -22...1111....22 situation... At least the games I saw. You sound like you attended quite of few... Last years 1st line was probably the best first line in the history of high school hockey girls or boys... Only seen EP in the big games as well... They never shortened their bench to two lines... zoe25... it is funning how people rip apart quality teams. Sorry if you thought that was what was happening... I do remember a game with Tartan and SSP about 4 years back... I think there was a little brawl involved with some parents, but SSP took their lumps... Lets hope EP and their coaching staff learn from some of the things in the past. Hockeyhead

SEhockeyDAD · Post by **SEhockeyDAD** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 12:53 pm

OnFrozenPond makes the best point;<blockquote>Quote:<hr>I'm not sure why a swing line would be used for games like EP/Kennedy or EP/Rosemount. It seems to me that EP could have given some of their JV players some varsity experience without putting the final outcome in jeopardy.<hr></blockquote>Who wouldn't agree on this point? And number of periods a player can skate in one night is a non-issue. The top JV players play only 1 period of JV, maybe 2. The varsity top players only need to play one to one and a half periods and let the 4th line players get plenty of varsity play. Rochester Mayo/Lourdes coach John Gamble plays the 4 line almost every game. Each one of those girls gets to letter in hockey and have a good HS hockey experience. Unlike demoralized players on a bad team who watch the best players in the state score double digits in the 3rd period against their team.

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