New Class A 8-Sections

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 7:18 am

These are to be officialy announced soon. In talking with other coaches, there has been much speculation as to what these will end up being geographically, team composition wise, # of teams per, etc. I've heard 2 potential scenarios. 1) 4 S MN, 2 Metro (E & W), and 2 N MN Class A sections with sections being comprised of 6-8 teams with a couple as low as 6 & similarly 8 but many w/7 teams per. 2) Or 3 S Mn, 2 Metro (E & W), 1 N-W Central MN, 2 N (E & W) MN. I think #2 is most likely... I'm guessing that the E Metro A section would include: 1Farmington 2Mahtomedi 3Minnehaha 4Simley 5South St. Paul 6St. Paul "Saints" (St. Agnes/St. Bernard's/Concordia Academy) 7St. Paul United (St. Paul Academy/Visitation) 8***Red Wing - this team should go S if just 7 teams... And possibly the W Metro A: 1Blake 2Breck 3Mound-Westonka 4Orono 5Richfield 6St. Louis Park 7Totino-Grace 8***Lakeville S. - this team should go S if just 7 teams... The N MN sections would include some configuration of: NORTHWEST: 1Alexandria 2Crookston 3Detroit Lakes 4East Grand Forks 5Fergus Falls 6Park Rapids 7Thief River Falls NORTHEAST: 1Babbitt 2Eveleth 3Hibbing 4International Falls 5Lake of the Woods 6Roseau 7Silver Bay 8Warroad And a N-W CENTRAL???: 1Hutchinson 1Litchfield 2Little Falls 3Long Prairie-Grey Eagle/Wadena-Deer Creek 4Moose Lake 5Morris/Benson/Hancock 6Princeton 7Willmar Then, S MN is some configuration of 3 sections of 6 teams of: 1Albert Lea Tigers 2Austin 3Faribault 4Luverne 5Mankato East 6Mankato West 7Marshall 8New Prague 9New Ulm 10Northfield 11Redwood Valley 12Shakopee 13St. Peter/Lesueur-Henderson 14Waseca 15Windom Area Eagles 16Worthington +++ 17???Lakeville S. +++ 18???Red Wing Edited by: <A HREF=http://p100.ezboard.com/bmnhs.showUserP ... ckeyfan</A> at: 2/1/06 7:55 am

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 8:15 am

I took a stab at the S MN potential sections as well... I don't know my S MN geography very well (let alone the MSHSL's computer model criteria as far as seperation distances, etc...) but here's what we COULD see (watch me be WAY off...): SOUTHCENTRAL: 1Faribault 2Lakeville S. 3New Prague 4Northfield 5Shakopee 6St. Peter/Lesueur-Henderson SOUTHEAST: 1Albert Lea Tigers 2Austin 3Mankato East 4Mankato West 5Red Wing 6Waseca SOUTHWEST: 1Luverne 2Marshall 3New Ulm 4Redwood Valley 5Windom Area Eagles 6Worthington and...??? EAST METRO 1Farmington 2Mahtomedi 3Minnehaha 4Simley 5South St. Paul 6St. Paul "Saints" (St. Agnes/St. Bernard's/Concordia Academy) 7St. Paul United (St. Paul Academy/Visitation) WEST METRO: 1Blake 2Breck 3Mound-Westonka 4Orono 5Richfield 6St. Louis Park 7Totino-Grace NORTHWEST: 1Alexandria 2Crookston 3Detroit Lakes 4East Grand Forks 5Fergus Falls 6Park Rapids 7Thief River Falls NORTHEAST: 1Babbitt 2Eveleth 3Hibbing 4International Falls 5Lake of the Woods 6Roseau 7Silver Bay 8Warroad NORTH-WEST CENTRAL: 1Hutchinson 1Litchfield 2Little Falls 3Long Prairie-Grey Eagle/Wadena-Deer Creek 4Moose Lake 5Morris/Benson/Hancock 6Princeton 7Willmar

sghfan · Post by **sghfan** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 9:12 am

One small flaw in your lists. I've already seen announced (in the Strib, I believe) that Lakeville South will move up next season. With three full classes they will be over 1200 next year so it makes sense. 1AA has only 7 teams this year so they should fit right in.

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 9:49 am

And that changes everything... plus I don't know if any other new teams will be created... I doubt it. I see the LV S "Opt-Up" is listed on the MSHSL directors meeting agenda for today... I assume approval is a technicality. this being said, I've also heard form a number of people this AM that saw this post. The thoughts that are most dominant in this correspondence say that: 1) New Prague could go metro section & that there may be 3 metro sections E, WestCentral, West-w/some true "western MN teams"... 2) that many of my assumptions are wrong based on how the boys 8 sections are done for A. 3) that as in #2 above for boys Hibbing & Warroad won't be paired in same section 4) politics will alter the alignment - including the notion that once the big fancy computer spits out its sections that when the human factor of overseeers comes in that this will lead to some interesting changes this all being said, I have no idea how it will end up now!!! Edited by: <A HREF=http://p100.ezboard.com/bmnhs.showUserP ... ckeyfan</A> at: 2/1/06 10:00 am

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 9:51 am

Forgot to mention that some already KNOW how this is aligned. The rumors are spreading, but I don't know anything to be fact yet from a reliable source so we'll just have to wait and see...

hockeyfinatic · Post by **hockeyfinatic** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 10:05 am

The rumor I heard was Section 2A 1)Red Wing 2)Simley 3)Farmington 4)St. Paul United 5)Richfield 6)New Prague 7)Lakeville South But if Lakeville south is playing AA that means this wouldn't work!

Rocketwrister · Post by **Rocketwrister** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 10:08 am

GHS- I can only hope that those sections your predicted are true. That would be a relief. RW www.rebelhockey.com

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 10:35 am

I have no idea guys... I guess it's all purely speculation right now unless you have some inside knowledge! Bringing NP all the way into that section seems a little far fetched to me, but there are always some interesting alignments done each time...

Big Red · Post by **Big Red** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 10:36 am

It would make more sense to put Alex in the NW Central. Roseau and Warroad in the Northeast doesn't seem right...? I would see them being thrown in the NW and Moose Lake being placed in the Northeast. But its the state high school league and you never know. We'll see how things shake out.

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 12:12 pm

You may well be right! Maybe it will shift that direction around the state Ros/War to W, Alex to C, etc. Wil most definitely be interesting...

gainazone · Post by **gainazone** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 4:17 pm

There is no way Roseau and Warroad will be in the same section as Silver Bay. That is like a 6 hour drive across the state. One of the big arguments to go to 8 sections is to get away from trips like that. The sections will probably look pretty close to the boys. Boys Class 8A Lake of the Woods Warroad Thief River Falls East Grand Forks Crookston Park Rapids Detroit Lakes Then add Roseau you have your 8 team section.

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 9:53 am

Again, I have no inside info., and I don't know my N & S (let alone metro!) geography all that well. I just wanted to get some discusion started as i know these will be released soon. It makes sense to mimic the boys sections, but for the fact that there are all sorts of different co-ops and some schools do/don't have teams, etc. in some parts of the state more than others. Will be interesting to say the least.

dasherdude · Post by **dasherdude** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:01 pm

When can we expect to get an official announcement on this?

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:49 pm

I heard this week... But maybe not until State???

hockeydad · Post by **hockeydad** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:51 pm

Will the league limit class AA to 64 teams? they try to do that in boys and girls basketball for class AAAA and AAA (though Lakeville south's opening screwed that up this year and next). Here's how that would work. 1. They would take the largest 64 schools, enrollment wise. 2. They would add in the "opt-up" teams that choose to play at the higher level 3. they would take an equal number of teams at the bottom of the original 64 and move them down to Class A. With just under 128 teams, that would make sense, since it would keep sections as close to 8 teams as possible. If they do that, some current AA schools would move down to A.

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:53 pm

Good questions... I don't thinnk they will - but judging from my alignment above I wouldn't put too much weight in anything I say about this!

sghfan · Post by **sghfan** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 3:15 pm

Does MSHSL always get teams that volunteer to move down so smaller schools can move up?

hockeydad · Post by **hockeydad** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 5:30 pm

I'm not sure. I suppose if a team didn't want to move down, they would stick with 9 teams in a section, or they could offer the next smallest AA team the opportunity to move down. We'll just have to wait to find out

sghfan · Post by **sghfan** » Fri Feb 03, 2006 7:04 am

As published in the Strib today: ALIGNMENTS Hockey • girls The Minnesota State High School League board on Thursday approved a change from four to eight sections in Class 1A for the 2006-07. The eight new seven-team sections: • Section 1: Albert Lea, Austin, Faribault/Bethlehem Academy, Mankato East; Mankato West/Loyola, Northfield, Waseca. • Section 2: Farmington, Lakeville South, New Prague, Red Wing, Richfield, Simley, St. Paul United. • Section 3: Jackson Central/Mt. Lake/Southwest Star/W-WG/Windom, LeCenter/LeSueur-Henderson/St. Peter, Luverne/Adrian, New Ulm/Cathedral/Sleepy Eye, Marshall/Minneota, Redwood Valley, Worthington/Fulda. • Section 4: Blake, Saints, Mahtomedi, Minneapolis Novas, Minnehaha Academy, South St. Paul, Totino-Grace. • Section 5: Breck, Dassel-Cokato/Litchfield, Hutchinson, Mound-Westonka/Holy Family, Orono, St. Louis Park, Shakopee. • Section 6: Alexandria, Detroit Lakes, Fergus Falls, Morris/Benson/Hancock/Ortonville, Park Rapids/Menagha/Nevis, Wadena-Deer Creek/Browerville/Long Prairie-Grey Eagle, Willmar. • Section 7: Ely/Babbitt-Embarrass/Tower-Soudan, Hibbing/Chisholm, Little Falls, Moose Lake-Willow River/Barnum/Cromwell, Princeton, Two Harbors/Cook County/Silver Bay, Virginia/Eveleth-Gilbert/Mesabi East/Mt. Iron-Buhl. • Section 8: Crookston/Fisher/Red Lake, East Grand Forks, International Falls, Lake of the Woods/Indus, Roseau, Thief River Falls, Warroad.

sghfan · Post by **sghfan** » Fri Feb 03, 2006 7:05 am

And Lakeville South is listed. What's up with that?

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Fri Feb 03, 2006 8:12 am

I like this. Shows you how far off I was! lol

sghfan · Post by **sghfan** » Fri Feb 03, 2006 8:19 am

So you get a 6 team section, so far. Lakeville South can't be staying in A! Seems like they need to find a way to keep AA at 64 or at least close. None of the A sections have more than 7.

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Fri Feb 03, 2006 8:33 am

LV S classification was on the agenda for this week's MSHSL meeting. Are we certain that they have the #'s in all sports to move "up???" NP & Farmington will fight it out for this section more than likely.

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Fri Feb 03, 2006 8:53 am

I also see that the Mpls Novas are in 4A??? That's the 56th team - as we currently only have 55 in A...

xk1 · Post by **xk1** » Fri Feb 03, 2006 9:14 am

Although everyone would agree the Novas would be more competitve in A, I am curious how the largest population school in the state (like a coop of most Mpls HS) can be in A. Did they reduce the coop to a single HS?

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