Lakeville North and South news

[Jethrotull]

As most have heard, coach Herb Harvey has left Lakeville South for Eastview and his daughter may follow. Another south player Andy Foss has transfered to Breck. Andy was the best player in her age group at LSHS and will be hard to replace. At season's end last year a number of players talked about leaving, we will see in the next few months what is left at South. North seems to be holding onto all off their players. Anyone heard of any more tranfers at either school?

[ghshockeyfan]

As most have heard, coach Herb Harvey has left Lakeville South for Eastview and his daughter may follow. Another south player Andy Foss has transfered to Breck. Andy was the best player in her age group at LSHS and will be hard to replace. At season's end last year a number of players talked about leaving, we will see in the next few months what is left at South. North seems to be holding onto all off their players. Anyone heard of any more tranfers at either school?

Note to all - Breck will have a very good team next year. I heard of two other players that will be coming in too.

[keepitreal]

As most have heard, coach Herb Harvey has left Lakeville South for Eastview and his daughter may follow. Another south player Andy Foss has transfered to Breck. Andy was the best player in her age group at LSHS and will be hard to replace. At season's end last year a number of players talked about leaving, we will see in the next few months what is left at South. North seems to be holding onto all off their players. Anyone heard of any more tranfers at either school?

This is the same Foss that plays for Lakeville's On Edge U16 right? For what it's worth I heard she is going to Blake, not Breck. But yes, Breck does have a couple other good players who have been accepted.

[Jethrotull]

Rumors are usually short on details. Sorry if I was incorrect. From now on I will call them both "100% transfer enrollment private schools" so there is no confusion.

[ghshockeyfan]

the truth is that like D3 colleges, you never really know that you have who you think you will until classes start in the fall.

Once a kid walks through those doors for the first day of class, then they are "official" in my mind. So, truly, all of this is rumor, intent, speculation, etc. until then (sept)

Also - I guess a kid can always reverse their decision after day 1 of school, but that will cost them half a season now, and a full season if the MSHSL goes with the stronger penalty that has been rumored as technically a 1st day attendance counts as 1 transfer, and a move back after even just one day counts as a 2nd... once you start 9th grade I believe.

[Roman Legion]

It makes me wonder why Herb would leave? His daughter has only one year left and she would/could be a part of the first South graduating class.

Maybe there is more to the story than we currently know about. I would think twice about moving to Eastview instead of staying at South. At Eastview you have to contend with AHA in the section and at South you have to compete with Rochester, Owatonna and North. I know that Eastview has no chance against AHA this year and that trend should continue. Same conference. Similiar suburban profile. Something smells fishy.

Remember people with money are the most likely to transfer. Don't forget how the St. Thomas boys got so good so fast, Lakeville Youth Hockey. It is not any different in girls. The privates target these youth associations because the parents want to win NOW and they want to be catered to. Prime targets for the private schools.

I am sure that someone will go in and do a good job coaching and make the South team contenders. The future for growth there is very bright.

[ghshockeyfan]

Does that mean Lakeville South will now be open? What about Herbs' kids? I thought one of his daughters plays for Lakeville? Will they be moving?

http://www.eastviewhockey.net/teams/965.html

From the EV G HS Website:

Eastview High School Girls

Coaches: Herb Harvey
Click Here For STP Information Click Here For STP Schedule
2005 Team Photos


Coach’s/Manager’s Message
Tuesday 06/06/06
Bruce Miller has selected Herb Harvey as the head coach of our Girls Varsity Team for next season. Herb comes from Lakeville South High where he was head coach of the girls varsity team last season. Prior to that Herb was the coach for 5 years at Lakeville High School where he took the Lakeville Girls to the state tournament twice. Herb will also be teaching at Eastview High School next year.

JV and Assistant coach selections are still being worked on.

[ghshockeyfan]

I'm guessing that because Herb is teaching at Eastview too, so maybe the teaching & coaching job together at the same place was jsut what was best. I don't think that this is for certain a negative reflection on LVS. I don't believe he was teaching at LVS last year?

Re: movement by his family, this is not unusual. We have seen other coaches of lake teams have their daughters follow them to their new team before.

[Jethrotull]

My guess is that he wanted to teach again. He used to. Teaching in one high school and coaching another is very difficult at best. The fact that Lakeville has a severe ice shortage and is not able to field all 8 teams on their 2 sheets may also be a factor. Some teams may have to practice in the morning or like last year leave school early every day to start practice at around 2pm. Last year they only put one girls JV team on the ice and they did not get much practice time early in the season. Some days they were lucky to get any ice at all. It was not well planned and may not change this year because their new 3rd rink will not open till next year.

[ghshockeyfan]

I heard was that they had that co-op JV (this wasn't possible years ago by MSHSL rules - but glad that has changed to allow for it).

But more interesting I thought was that the two teams shared the locker room. Sat every other player being N/S I heard??? I can't imagine having that setup, but I guess all the girls knew each other and many had played together before the split, in youth, etc.

Just an interesting setup - and then I believe the new S beat N once and good rivalry games I hear - but can't imagine coming into the same locker room between periods of rivalry game!

[GoEV]

Didn't EV tie AH during the regular season last year - with a real young EV team whose top scorers are all coming back? It wasn't like AHA destroyed teams in the section play-offs.

New coach? Strong group of returners ...

[Roman Legion]

The only way that Eastview would have tied AHA last season was because AHA played horribly. Keep in mind that they have been to the state tournament 2 years in a row. I am not sure if Eastview has ever been to a section final!? AHA had 8 seniors to be in the junior fest. They have the best Sophomore offensive defensemen in the state and they have both goalies back from last season. We are talking a miracle here. No one in that section will touch AHA next season. Provided there are no major injuries. Keep in mind also that AHA had one of there best recruiting years. They bring in good players and make them great.

Hadn't heard that Herb was back in the teaching game. Makes sense to couple the two at one school.

[GoEV]

Thanks Roman -- I didn't realize how hopeless things were for EV --even after tying AHA a few months ago. I'll let B'ville and Eagan know that they won't be able to touch the AHA kids in the sections next year.

I just wish someone would have told the AV boys last March that the public schools can't compete against AHA.

[gamefan]

I was at the EV-AHA game and AHA played a poor game while EV had one of their better games. EV could be an excellent team in a couple of years. They have some talented girls entering 7th and 8th grade this year, as well as a couple of girls going into 9th. They'll need more talent in the net though.

[keepitreal]

From what I've seen in the past, EV has some good goaltending talent coming from the youth ranks. They seem to have a lot of young goalies both on the HS team and in youth and a couple of them look pretty good. Never know how they will develop at the HS level, but they certainly seem to have a lot of girls playing the position while other associations struggle to find one per team.

OT, I'm sorry but I just don't buy the notion that AHA, or for that matter, other private schools are "recruiting" or "targeting". I know of several players who are considering or attending private schools, and in every case their families approached the schools-- not the other way around. And although hockey was a consideration in their decisions, it was not the major reason for most. Repeatedly tossing around allegations of MSHSL violations in such a casual manner creates a lot of negativity and false impressions.

[MNhockeyfan09]

I was at the EV-AHA game and AHA played a poor game while EV had one of their better games. EV could be an excellent team in a couple of years. They have some talented girls entering 7th and 8th grade this year, as well as a couple of girls going into 9th. They'll need more talent in the net though.

True, AHA played one of their worst games of the season while outshooting EV 35-19 and EV stayed strong and played three periods
of hockey, one of their best games of the season.

Eastview is a team that went backwards last year due to an inability
to adjust to their coach and the coaches inability to coach girls, "easier said than done". This year they get a new coach, last years
coach was his 1st and last, they have had six coaches (Hoops, Gulner. Menne, Percival, Hughes and Harvey) in ten years.

They will have one or two seniors this year and a promising group
of youngsters coming up. In "05" they finished with a 16-11 record
and "06" 8-15-3, they should do much better IF everyone buys into Herb Harvey's plan and plays team hockey.

The goalie situation will be OK, they have two Juniors and a Sophmore
and possibly a freshman.

Good Luck with your new coach!

[Roman Legion]

Congratulations to Perry Wilkinson on becoming the Head Coach at Lakeville South. A great choice by South. If you recall Perry was the Head Coach at Jefferson a couple of seasons ago.

Good luck to Perry.

[ghshockeyfan]

Congrats to Perry!!!