Ratings, a different perspective

hockeyrube7 · Post by **hockeyrube7** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 12:31 pm

I think ratings could be looked at in a different way. The only ones that matter are at the end of the season. And if you lose out in sections, you don't get rated in the top 10 generally. So here is my take on where the ratings will end up, with sections 1 through 8 in each class. Barring injuries, team distructions and so forth. These of course depend on match ups in the state tourney brackets. Take a look at the sections, and lets speculate/debate from here? It's too early for a poll here, I think.

Class A
1) Blake- 4A
2) Breck- 5A
3) Alexandria- 6A
4) New Prague- 2A
5) Crookston- 8A
6) Austin- 1A
7) Hibbing- 7A

Fairmount- 3A

Class AA
1) AHA- 5AA
2) Eden Prairie- 6AA
3) Cloquet- 7AA
4) Rosville- 2AA
5) North Metro Stars- 4AA
6) Rochester- Mayo 1AA
7) Still Water- 3AA

Moorhead- 8AA

hockeygod · Post by **hockeygod** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 1:28 pm

Your ratings look like they could be accurate, but there still is alot of hockey yet to be played and if a couple of goalies get hot at the right times some of those teams will be left out when it comes tournament time. I'm a firm beleiver in that we don't know how anyone looks until after the holiday tournaments and the ratings are more or less a game until the playoffs start.

RSI · Post by **RSI** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 1:42 pm

Rube,
Are must from Fairmont

hockeyrube7 · Post by **hockeyrube7** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 1:54 pm

That and there are a couple of sections that will be really tough! 6AA may be the toughest, EP, BSM, Edina, Wayzata, Prior Lake, Hopkins, and Minnetonka, are all fine teams, and any could take that section. 7AA may get a bit tough, with Cloquet, GR, Duluth, and Proctor. 3AA with SW, Blaine, Centennial, WB, Irondale, and SPL. It's not going to be easy for any of these teams. Just like to look at it a bit differently is all, 6AA could easily have 5 to 6 teams in the top 10 at any given time, yet only 1 or maybe 2 will be there in the end.

Another observation: I've heard comments on here about how Class A teams in no way compare to AA teams, other than Blake. I don't believe that to be completely true. While A is not as deep as AA, I do believe any of the 4 or 5 A teams I have listed here could easily compete with any of the top 10 from AA, and should beat many. Where I do agree, is that A tends to taper very quickly from there on down.

In the long run, it will all play itself out, but that is the fun of speculating for now.

hockeyrube7 · Post by **hockeyrube7** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 1:59 pm

RSI wrote:Rube,
Are must from Fairmont

No, but look at that section.

Annonymety is the key to this thing, and I do not believe in promoting my home program over others, or even teams from our surrounding areas, unless they are deserving. That is why I try to get out and see as many teams, and other games for myself. Beside, "You gotta love it!" Right.

xk1 · Post by **xk1** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:02 pm

rube...

Isn't Fairmount in 1AA or does GHS have it wrong?

Do you really think Prior Lake, Minnetonka or Hopkins could win 6AA?

hockeyrube7 · Post by **hockeyrube7** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:05 pm

xk1 wrote:rube...

Isn't Fairmount in 1AA or does GHS have it wrong?

Do you really think Prior Lake, Minnetonka or Hopkins could win 6AA?

No, not really, but there is always the any given day effect, and those teams are competitive as it is.

hockeyrube7 · Post by **hockeyrube7** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:08 pm

xk1 wrote:rube...

Isn't Fairmount in 1AA or does GHS have it wrong?

They are on MSHSL, that is what I look at for sections. Maybe they are wrong?

xk1 · Post by **xk1** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:13 pm

This is what I saw, the two seem to disagree <edit>

http://www.mshsl.org/mshsl/showstudent. ... ctions.htm

RSI · Post by **RSI** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:14 pm

I think Farimont is 3A, at least they should be in the same Section as New Ulm, Marshall, Windom etc.

xk1 · Post by **xk1** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:19 pm

I think you guys are right, GHS needs to fix his Krach as they are listed as a section 1 AA team.

RSI · Post by **RSI** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:24 pm

I found this at MSHSL.org. I assume it's correct, it sure makes the most sense.

Hockey, Girls
Class: A
Section: 3
8 teams in this section
Administered by Region 3A Coop: 350
Le Center High School
LeSueur-Henderson High School
Saint Peter High School
Coop: 784
Jackson County Central High School
Mountain Lake High School
Southwest Star Concept H. S.
Westbrook-Walnut Grove High School
Windom Area High School
Coop: 810
Adrian High School
Luverne High School
Coop: 853
New Ulm Cathedral High School
New Ulm High School
Sleepy Eye High School
Coop: 901
Fairmont High School
Martin County West High School
Martin Luther High School
Truman High School
Coop: 906
Lakeview High School
Marshall High School
Minneota High School
Coop: 983
Fulda High School
Worthington High School
Coop: 1093
Redwood Valley High School
Springfield High School
Tracy-Milroy-Balaton High School
Wabasso High School

hockeyrube7 · Post by **hockeyrube7** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:28 pm

xk1 wrote:I think you guys are right, GHS needs to fix his Krach as they are listed as a section 1 AA team.

xk, here is the one I go off of.
http://www.mshsl.org/mshsl/standings.asp?actnum=460

xk1 · Post by **xk1** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:35 pm

Oh, I agree, I like to look at the Krach page because it has them all in one place, when I saw no Fairmont there nor in the other MSHSL sections I jumped to the wrong conclusion, guess you ned to look 3 places. Interesting we could get so far in the season without anyone noticing that Krach had them a section 1AA team.

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 3:45 pm

Rube

If you are predicting what might happen in February based on what might transgress in the next 7 weeks then I think your opinions may be fine because it is just specualtion.

But if you are projecting what might be based on what has transpired through today I would take exception to some of your rankings.

First example - Moorhead in Section 8. Bemidji has the clear distinction and would be seeded number 1 at this pont and therefore the favorite and therefore deserving og the ranking.

Other examples to follow when I retrun (from Christamas travel).

hockeyrube7 · Post by **hockeyrube7** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 4:49 pm

Perfect! This is all just speculation, is it not, no predictions, not yet, way too early for that. That's why they play the game. And this is what I find great about this forum. If I were to say EP is not going to make it to state, everyone would think I was insane, yet look at their section and what is in there, who can say at this point. The point I was trying to make is we should rate a little more by section, as there is no way in the end that EP, Edina, BSM, and Wayzata all end up in the top 10 of AA, yet are currently all there.

Are you saying that Moorhead has no chance compared to Bemidji? Please give examples of why?

Just trying to keep a positive yet different look at it all. I find it interesting when some say on here that "team A would never compare to team B". And then team A goes and beats team B, and not just by a little. Good example is SW beating CDH 5-1, who'd have thought that prior to the game.

Nothing is set, and when they play, it will all work out. Just somthing fun to discuss. Not trying to cut on any specific team.