irondale vs. bsm

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who will win tuesday?

Poll ended at Thu Jan 11, 2007 10:47 pm

irondale
7
23%
bsm
24
77%
 
Total votes: 31

lovetopuck
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irondale vs. bsm

Post by lovetopuck »

tuesday at the shwans super rink confrence match up of BSM and Irondale. the first meeting BSM walked all over Irondale 8-0 but it looks like they've improved very much since then.
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Re: irondale vs. bsm

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lovetopuck wrote:tuesday at the shwans super rink confrence match up of BSM and Irondale. the first meeting BSM walked all over Irondale 8-0 but it looks like they've improved very much since then.
It will be closer, but expect BSM to take this one fairly easy!

4 or 5 to 0
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reality check

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Wouldn't expect much. Both teams have gotten better, not just Irondale. Irondale has built a nice competitive team but they are not in the league of BSM, despite all the recent postings here.

BSM (or Edina) could easily upset EP in sections this year and either would be considered early favorites to win it all once (or if) that happens.
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Re: reality check

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im just trying to create some buzz here. it should be a much more intresting game this time around though
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Post by boblee »

5-1 BSM
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Re: reality check

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lovetopuck wrote:im just trying to create some buzz here. it should be a much more intresting game this time around though
If forum buzz could help teams win this place would be a lot more crowded :D

With all the noobie Irondale love going on around here all it tends to do is stretch credibility beyond the breaking point.

Hopefully we can keep this place from becomming like the boys HS and youth forums and maintain an intelligent level of conversation. I give a lot of credit to Irondale as they've got a nice team and have done very well compared to past seasons, but I'm sure I echo many who find a poll for a rematch of a 8-0 game and three pages of posts on an 8th grader to be a bit much.

No offense and good luck to your squad.
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Post by thegreatone »

4-3 Irondale! Mcdonald and Lorence with 2 goals apiece.
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Post by thegreatone »

quote by keepitreal: I give a lot of credit to Irondale as they've got a nice team and have done very well compared to past seasons, but I'm sure I echo many who find a poll for a rematch of a 8-0 game and three pages of posts on an 8th grader to be a bit much.




Let's just see what happens in the rematch. It's on there home ice now.

Keepitreal, How many pages of posts do you consider being ok to post for an 8th grader? Have you seen her play? I would have to say that 3 pages is not enough. What 8th grader should we be talking about? What other 8th grader is in the top 5 in the metro in scoring? Please let me know so I can go watch her.
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Post by xk1 »

If you are going by the stats in the St Paul paper they don't include over half the schools, according to MaxPreps her 27 points put her in 32nd place. I did see a Rochester kid if you want to move her up 1. I think 27 points is impressive for an 8th grader though.
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Post by gopher9 »

Looking at the list of total points a Talor Kuel 8th grade from Mound has 23 points?
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Post by PASTRAPIDSFAN »

BSM BY 5 GOALS
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Post by Pucking is my LIFE »

some of you may not know but last year when Irondale played Benilde they were winning 1-0 going into the 3rd period and ended up loosing 2-1 in the last minute and so trust me IRONDALE wants this very bad!


2-1 Irondale!
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PASTRAPIDSFAN wrote:BSM BY 5 GOALS

"DITTO''
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Thanks xk1, that's good to know. Thank You gopher9! I will keep my eye out for her.
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Re: reality check

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[quote="keepitreal"][quote="lovetopuck"]im just trying to create some buzz here. it should be a much more intresting game this time around though[/quote]

If forum buzz could help teams win this place would be a lot more crowded :D

With all the noobie Irondale love going on around here all it tends to do is stretch credibility beyond the breaking point.

Hopefully we can keep this place from becomming like the boys HS and youth forums and maintain an intelligent level of conversation. I give a lot of credit to Irondale as they've got a nice team and have done very well compared to past seasons, but I'm sure I echo many who find a poll for a rematch of a 8-0 game and three pages of posts on an 8th grader to be a bit much.

No offense and good luck to your squad.[/quote]

its not so much a poll about an 8-0 rematch. more a poll about the 13th ranked team in the stating playing the 4th.
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Post by thegreatone »

Thanks lovetopuck!! Very good posts! Nice job trying to create a buzz!Let's hope it's a good game tonight.
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[quote="thegreatone"]Thanks lovetopuck!! Very good posts! Nice job trying to create a buzz!Let's hope it's a good game tonight.[/quote]

so basically its an hour before this game happens, and i just want to point out that i never said irondale was going to win. so if they are defeated dont be going "oh i told you so". all i've been trying to say is this should be a good game to watch
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Re: reality check

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so anyway i dont know if anyone saw the game. it was a 2-2 tie. Benilde's 2nd goal was a bad call because they said Irondale's goalie skated into the net and the puck crossed the line when niether ref was in any postion to make that call. anyway, i guess it was closer then everyone here thought...except me? and a couple of others?
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Post by hockeyfancy »

yes, after the second goal was cleared as no goal about 5 minutes went by and then they called it a goal. the goal was scored by going off of a skate, which should be ruled a non-goal. both refs were in the center of the rink and could not have seen it clearly, this game should have been a 1-2 irondale victory. bsm became very cheap and punches were thrown towards the end of the third and continued into o.t....it was clear that irondale really got under bsm's skin in this tied game.
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Post by MNHockeyFan »

hockeyfancy wrote:yes, after the second goal was cleared as no goal about 5 minutes went by and then they called it a goal. the goal was scored by going off of a skate, which should be ruled a non-goal. both refs were in the center of the rink and could not have seen it clearly, this game should have been a 1-2 irondale victory. bsm became very cheap and punches were thrown towards the end of the third and continued into o.t....it was clear that irondale really got under bsm's skin in this tied game.
Actually the puck clearly was in and it was a one-timer with a stick, not a skate. The ref closest to the play hesitated and the other ref who did see it properly overruled him. Irondale clearly got the calls and the missed calls the whole night, including a very questionable "interference" call with 2 1/2 minutes to go which allowed them to tie it up. Then at the end of the overtime with BSM pressing for a goal, they finally call one on Irondale, only to even it out by calling a bench minor on BSM. I usually don't complain about the referees but unfortunately in this game there was some obvious home cooking going on out there.

Still, you have to give a lot of credit to Irondale for playing an excellent game. They were however fortunate to catch Benilde on an off night as it was not the same team as we've seen since early in the year.

You also have to give credit to the Irondale fans which turned out in droves and gave their team a big boost. Lots of students and even the band came to watch and cheer loud for their team.
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Post by hockeyfancy »

Nor was it Irondale's night. I agree the ref's were off tonight, for both teams. Irondale is a stronger team than they showed tonight as well. But it is enjoyable to watch them defend themselves when the opposite team is cheap. Physical good game for both teams, although I have seen much better out of irondale.
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Post by lovetopuck »

[quote="hockeyfancy"]Nor was it Irondale's night. I agree the ref's were off tonight, for both teams. Irondale is a stronger team than they showed tonight as well. But it is enjoyable to watch them defend themselves when the opposite team is cheap. Physical good game for both teams, although I have seen much better out of irondale.[/quote]

i was suprised that should a strong team from a privite school could be so cheap. you'd think they'd have the sportsmanship and etiquete to be somewhat respectful. but i agree that it was an off night for both team, and i talked to one of the players who heard the one of the refs say it wasnt a goal and that it was a mistake to the other ref but they decided to keep it.
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Post by GoAlIeGuRl#1 »

ummmm.... irondale is the underdog of the year! last nites tie shows that they can take on anyone...renee brasuhn had an excellent game and it shows that the team can rise to any challenge. it was probably one of the best games i have ever seen! the second goal that benilde scored 1 minute into the second period was bullcrap...trunzo talked to the ref and they decided to call it a goal! but as usual irondale overcame this obstacle and ended up tying the # 5 team in the state! people dont give these girls enough credit....
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Post by xk1 »

It was rumored that Riley of BSM was injured, was she back for this game?
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Post by MNHockeyFan »

lovetopuck wrote:I was suprised that (such) a strong team from a privite school could be so cheap. you'd think they'd have the sportsmanship and etiquete to be somewhat respectful. but i agree that it was an off night for both team, and i talked to one of the players who heard the one of the refs say it wasnt a goal and that it was a mistake to the other ref but they decided to keep it.
I had a very good vantage point and the puck definitely went in. The ref who hesitated was not in a good position to tell if it was a goal or not - and this does happen sometimes - was right in calling it a non-goal because he did not see it go in. The other ref, although further away, had a better angle and apparently did see it cross the line. So he was correct in conferring with the other ref, which led to the ruling that it was a goal.

As for BSM not having "sportsmanship and etiquete to be somewhat respectful" I think this mainly arose out of frustration from not being able to score despite having numerous opportunities and a strong territorial advantage during long stretches throughout the game. A couple of times there was some pushing and shoving after the whistle which sometimes you do see in a hockey game, especially when the action is intense and the opposing teams are really battling one another. BSM needs to show more discipline in these situations and learn to avoid the retaliatory type penalties, which has been a problem in several games this year.
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