2006-07 Bantam B1 preview

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highschoolhockeyfan
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Post by highschoolhockeyfan »

Bantam B-1 Standings
Team Games Won Lost Tied Points Fairplay Total Points
Eden Prairie Red 16 11 2 3 25 15 40

Burnsville 16 10 4 2 22 12 34

Edina Green 16 9 4 3 21 13 34

Edina White 16 11 4 1 23 7 30

Jefferson 16 8 5 3 19 11 30

Chaska 16 7 5 4 18 10 28

Eden Prairie Black 16 7 5 4 18 10 28

Minnetonka 16 7 9 0 14 11 25

this is it finished burnsville white and i think chaska all get the ties
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lessercountryfolk
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Post by lessercountryfolk »

really hurt edina white to only get 7 our of 16. oh well
ConcernedDad
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Post by ConcernedDad »

Yea if I am reading that right above Edina White had the 2nd best points for win/loss but could not get the FPP point to stay up in the standings. oh well is right, FPP no longer matters in the playoffs.
buckeyehockey17
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Post by buckeyehockey17 »

highschoolhockeyfan wrote:Bantam B-1 Standings
Team Games Won Lost Tied Points Fairplay Total Points
Eden Prairie Red 16 11 2 3 25 15 40
Burnsville 16 10 4 2 22 12 34
Edina Green 16 9 4 3 21 14 34
Edina White 16 11 4 1 23 7 30
Jefferson 16 8 5 3 19 11 30
Chaska 16 7 5 4 18 10 28
Eden Prairie Black 16 7 5 4 18 10 28
Minnetonka 16 7 9 0 14 11 25

this is it finished burnsville white and i think chaska all get the ties
did u miss type or what because it says edina green has 21 points and 14 FPP so shouldnt it be 35 total points for them?
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Post by highschoolhockeyfan »

yea i accidently erased it and forgot but it is 13
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Post by buckeyehockey17 »

o ok thanks
ice00breaker
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computer rankings 2/12

Post by ice00breaker »

when are they out?
pioneer
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computer rankings 2/12

Post by pioneer »

Good timing mr. ice... here they are:

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1         Eden Prairie B1 Red           78.8      36-4-4
2         Centennial B1 Red             78.7      27-9-3
3         Edina B1 Green                78.6      26-8-3
4         Edina B1 White                77.5      28-7-4
5         Blaine B1                     77.2      37-7-1
6         Wayzata B1 Blue               76.3      27-7-2
7         Elk River B1                  76.1      29-4-0
8         Burnsville B1                 75.1      23-7-2
9         Stillwater B1                 74.7      25-11-5
10        Eden Prairie B1 Black         74.4      21-14-2
11        Chaska B1                     74.2      22-15-3
12        White Bear Lake B1 Orange     74.0      26-8-3
13        Jefferson B1                  73.3      27-13-6
14        Woodbury B1                   72.9      43-7-3
15        Chisago Lakes B1              72.3      30-5-3
16        Minnetonka B1                 71.1      24-19-2
17        White Bear Lake B1 Black      70.2      19-7-2
18        Blake                         69.3      19-9-3
19        Moorhead B1                   68.2      10-9-0
20        Maple Grove B1                67.7      20-8-3
21        Duluth East B1                65.9      20-7-4
22        Eagan B1                      65.8      18-10-6
23        Andover B1                    63.3      20-17-2
24        St. Cloud B1 Black            62.7      14-8-3
25        Wayzata B1 Gold               61.9      20-14-2
ShootPassScore
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Post by ShootPassScore »

Very accurate Pioneer. It seems that your system gets better and better through the year as the teams play more and more. Right now is the best I've seen. Thanks for doing this for the secret society all season. It has got to be a ton of work!

By the way what association are you associated with?
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Post by Puckhead2 »

Not sure why Woodbury gets the short end of the stick, with 43 wins??? They have same amount of losses as Bvlle and Wayzata Blue and a ton more wins than either of those two higher ranked teams....seems like a flaw on that one. Strength of schedule deserves consideration but its not like Bvlle is playing quality teams outside of D6...43 wins is a ton of freakin wins.....or is that a typo?
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ranks

Post by my2cents »

Regarding the pioneer rankings:

Keep in mind that 5 pts equates to 1 goal, so Woodbury is rated only one goal per game differential lower than #1 EP Red. I think these rankings are a little biased against teams like Woodbury that consistently win but, but typically by smaller margins. B'ville is ranked high because when they lose, they lose only by a goal or two.

A couple of teams missing from the top twenty are the Rochester teams. They both had strong showings in their tourney this past weekend when Red went 4-1 and took Woodbury into OT and Black lost two close ones to Blaine who went 7-0 during the last week, yet lost ground in the rankings.

Pioneer still has the best rankings out there.
ShootPassScore
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Post by ShootPassScore »

No question Pioneer's are the best. Someone will always be able to find something to disagree with.

I think another thing that is taken into his rankings is the strength of schedule. Woodbury has beaten a bunch of weaker teams and had much closer games with the top 20 teams.

If I were Woodbury, I would start to worry about burn-out this time of the year. That is a bunch more games than anyone else has played. Practices are taken for granted this day in age.

I think its funny how when there are no D6 teams playing this thread slows down to nothing.

It looks like all of the Districts are final. The best part of the season starts now!
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Post by tomASS »

Puckhead2 wrote:Not sure why Woodbury gets the short end of the stick, with 43 wins??? They have same amount of losses as Bvlle and Wayzata Blue and a ton more wins than either of those two higher ranked teams....seems like a flaw on that one. Strength of schedule deserves consideration but its not like Bvlle is playing quality teams outside of D6...43 wins is a ton of freakin wins.....or is that a typo?
Not losing to Chaska twice by 4-1 score each time would have helped your case. Woodbury is about right where they belong from what I have seen of their team and the teams that are in front of you.

And you know what? As great and as accurate as I believe these to be; they do not matter at all right now. NEW SEASON STARTS NOW!
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Post by HockeyRocks1 »

Woodbury is right where they belong. Compared to the teams above them their goaltending is the missing link.
lessercountryfolk
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Post by lessercountryfolk »

I feel those stats are real accurate. it all starts at 0-0 again now.
buckeyehockey17
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Post by buckeyehockey17 »

i dont understand why ep black is so high they havent been playing good lately

also, although the rankings are good, but you need to add a human part that has an affect but not a big affect
ShootPassScore
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Post by ShootPassScore »

Here are some fun facts for the Secret Society.

The answer is "Yes" I need a life.

There are 126 teams at the Bantam B1 level in 12 districts.

Here are the unofficial League Champions. Unofficial because I got them from websites. Some leagues do not have official standings. Most do, anyway here goes:

1: Highland/Central
2: White Bear Lake Black
3: Wayzata Blue
4: Waseca
5: Sartell
6: Eden Prairie Red
8: Woodbury
10: Chisago Lakes
11: Duluth East
12: Grand Rapids
15: Moorhead Black
16: Roseau
ushoot2score
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unofficial league results

Post by ushoot2score »

SPS - Thx for the work! It will be interesting to see how many of these champions actually get to state.
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B Bantams playoffs

Post by ushoot2score »

I find it interesting that all districts for the playoff format except D10 use the double elimination bracket format. Does MN hockey have any rules for district playoffs or is this up to each disctrict to decide the playoff format. I look at a team several teams from D10 and 1 good team will not make the regional (Chisago Lakes, Blaine, Cent. Red, Elk River). It's to bad that a team may not have the opportunity to play into the tourney if a team should have a bad game early in round robin play.
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Post by LesHabs »

with the goofy pool play and then the ONE CHANCE play in game format they are now going with, don't be surprised if they're are fewer of these teams at State then you might think.
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Post by theoneandonly1 »

in district 6 two good teams wont even get to play in the district double elimination tournament :D
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Post by FREDFLINTSTONE »

LESHABS,

You hit the nail on the head there. Some of the listed good teams will beat themselfs, some will get beat by hot teams, and some will get beat by the crappy regional playoff system. The people who came up with that playoff system should be ashamed of themselves.
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Post by highschoolhockeyfan »

why mess with a good thing :roll: are they going to have a pool play for state next or what
pioneer
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rochester

Post by pioneer »

very observant my2... both rochester teams were next:

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26        Rochester Red                 61.7      17-12-4
27        Rochester Black               61.5      18-22-2
I did not get all the scores from the rochester tourney... anyone got them?
excoach
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Post by excoach »

Can't agree with you more My2Cents. All this board is are people clammering about the EP's, Edina's and all the other cake eating towns. The lowly District 8 doesn't hardly make the map, when there are ligitmately 5 teams in the District who could make a run. I like the rankings though, so that guy is doing a great job, but the talk from parents who thinks their B Bantam player will be the next Neal Broten is quite amusing
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