the apollo eagles

[Goldy Gopher]

Here is the road to STATE for the Apollo boys, of course these are the tune up games only for sections right?
My guess would be?
01/03/08 Little Falls ......... 7 – 1 LOSS
01/08/08 at Brainerd/Pillager/Pierz ............ LOSE
01/10/08 at St. Cloud Tech ......... LOSE
01/15/08 at Willmar ..........Split the series, this one a lose
01/17/08 Fergus Falls ......lost already, but either way
01/22/08 at River Lakes ..... BIG win and we will hear about on the forum
01/24/08 at Sauk Rapids-Rice ...... LOSE
01/29/08 Alexandria....... LOSE
01/31/08 Sartell-St. Stephen ........ Either way
02/05/08 at St. Michael-Albertville ...... WIN
02/07/08 Brainerd/Pillager/Pierz ....... LOSE
02/12/08 St. Cloud Tech ....... LOSE
02/14/08 Willmar .......split the series, this one a win.

Now this could change, they have some talent (no D-1) but the play needs to be cleaned up, how can a coach be happy with the minutes in the box?

They can't be, and I know that Dougherty isn't.

[defense]

St.Cloud Apollo likely won't get to state, but they may well get into the second round and then anything is possible in this section. The top 5 teams, the only reall contenders at this point are: Little Falls, Fergus Falls, Alexandria, Detroit Lakes, and St.Cloud Apollo. (sorry whoever did the rankings on records, that just is not how its done). The way it appears right now, Little Falls would be #1, #2 could go either FF or Alex, either way at this point it looks like either the Eagles will make their way to DL or the Lakers will make a trip to teh mac. This is assuming that DL wins some games down the stretch, otherwis Morris, Wadena ...????? doesn't matter. This section is looking more like 3 real contenders though and 2 dark horses, apollo would be the latter.......
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[CarGuy]

apollo's section is pathetic and weak at best....sad to say that a not very good small falls team will probably advance...maybe alex or DL, but by far the weakest section north of southern mn....i think we will see some pretty good class a hockey out of the twin cities and north sections though.

[Goldy Gopher]

apollo's section is pathetic and weak at best....sad to say that a not very good small falls team will probably advance...maybe alex or DL, but by far the weakest section north of southern mn....i think we will see some pretty good class a hockey out of the twin cities and north sections though.

Can I have some of what you're on? According to the PS2 rankings sections 7A, 5A, 8A, and 3A are all weaker than 6A with three of them being north of "southern Minnesota"

[defense]

Yep youre right on car dude...section 6a weak and pathetic....keep on lying to yourself and telling all of your teamates that, so when the 6a champ smokes your team in the first round you can feel so darn smart....Fergus Falls, Alexandria, Little Falls, Detroit Lakes, St. Cloud Apollo....yeah that line up sucks...

[George Blanda]

Can I have some of what you're on? According to the PS2 rankings sections 7A, 5A, 8A, and 3A are all weaker than 6A with three of them being north of "southern Minnesota"

Easy Goldy. Don't come whipping out stats like that. PS2 rankings are a little skewed as a result of having Mora, Moose Lake, Proctor, North Branch and Princeton (5A as an example). 6A doesn't have the EXTREME bottom feeders, but doesn't have the great teams up top, either.

[Goldy Gopher]

Can I have some of what you're on? According to the PS2 rankings sections 7A, 5A, 8A, and 3A are all weaker than 6A with three of them being north of "southern Minnesota"

Easy Goldy. Don't come whipping out stats like that. PS2 rankings are a little skewed as a result of having Mora, Moose Lake, Proctor, North Branch and Princeton (5A as an example). 6A doesn't have the EXTREME bottom feeders, but doesn't have the great teams up top, either.

I will agree but to say that they are "by far the weakest section north of southern Minnesota" is just plain false in my opinion.

[fiveforfighting]

I agree thats a pretty strong section for single A

[givememoorehead]

Goldy Gopher is the man

[slap-shot69]

Goldygopher is clearly apollo biast , let's get real its a sport and any given team can win on anyday but with out a solid turn around apollo is not going any where this year but nice try goldy

[CarGuy]

PS2 rankings? please....that is a joke...roseau is way better than their ranking on there....just because soem guy came up with a formula for rating teams doesn't mean its accurate.
records as of 12-31-07
sartell 3-7
prairie center 5-4-2 ...seriously who do they even play to get wins?
fergus 4-4-1
wadena 7-4-1 ...weak schedule
detroit lakes 4-6
morris/benson 4-6 sounds like a funeral homename than a hockeyteam...
alex 6-4-1
Littel falls 8-2 too bad they lost to Sauk rapids...but SR did beat almight tech
apollo...5-7

.....lots of LOSING records in this weak section/ or .500 play...LF will make it to state in a cake walk here...the only competition for them might be alexandria...apollo is a non factor in thsi section..as is sartell, prairie center, DL, fergus and wadena and their weak schedule.

[Goldy Gopher]

PS2 rankings? please....that is a joke...roseau is way better than their ranking on there....just because soem guy came up with a formula for rating teams doesn't mean its accurate.
records as of 12-31-07
sartell 3-7
prairie center 5-4-2 ...seriously who do they even play to get wins?
fergus 4-4-1
wadena 7-4-1 ...weak schedule
detroit lakes 4-6
morris/benson 4-6 sounds like a funeral homename than a hockeyteam...
alex 6-4-1
Littel falls 8-2 too bad they lost to Sauk rapids...but SR did beat almight tech
apollo...5-7

.....lots of LOSING records in this weak section/ or .500 play...LF will make it to state in a cake walk here...the only competition for them might be alexandria...apollo is a non factor in thsi section..as is sartell, prairie center, DL, fergus and wadena and their weak schedule.

8A and 6A Records and PS2 strength of schedule rank. I know you don't believe in the PS2 but that is the only strength of schedule rating I know of.

Bagley 0-13 140
Bemidji 7-6 61
Crookston 2-8-1 95
EGF 4-7-1 56
Kittson Central 5-4 118
LOW 3-12-1 73
Park Rapids 13-0 133
RLF 5-6-1 142
TRF 3-8 31
Walker 0-9 132
Warroad 10-3 58

Average Record: 5-7-0
Average Strength of Schedule: 94

Sartell 3-7 82
Prairie Center 5-4-2 138
Fergus Falls 4-4-1 91
Wadena 7-4-1 126
Detroit Lakes 4-6 100
MBA 4-6 139
Alexandria 6-4-1 86
Little Falls 8-2 102
Apollo 5-7 99

Average Record: 5-5-0
Average Strength of Schedule: 107

I don't see how you could say that one of these is "by far" worse or better than another.

[Stealth]

Goldy, does this mean that MBA (139) & Prairie Center (138) has the toughest schedule in 6A?

Or would Alexandria (86) and Sartell (82) have the tougher schedule in 6A?


One last thing is this data based on up to this point or the whole year’s schedule?

[Goldy Gopher]

Goldy, does this mean that MBA (139) & Prairie Center (138) has the toughest schedule in 6A?

Or would Alexandria (86) and Sartell (82) have the tougher schedule in 6A?


One last thing is this data based on up to this point or the whole year’s schedule?

Alex and Sartell have the toughest. I believe that it is the whole year's schedule which isn't the most accurate way for what I'm trying to argue, but it's all I've got.

[Stealth]

Goldy, does this mean that MBA (139) & Prairie Center (138) has the toughest schedule in 6A?

Or would Alexandria (86) and Sartell (82) have the tougher schedule in 6A?


One last thing is this data based on up to this point or the whole year’s schedule?

Alex and Sartell have the toughest. I believe that it is the whole year's schedule which isn't the most accurate way for what I'm trying to argue, but it's all I've got.

Thank You

[CarGuy]

my problem with PS2 is that team it is 100% arbitrary...meaning that a teams value is assigned and then corresponding teams rankings adjust from there based on how they did. i put as much stock in PS@ rankings as I do in my 3 year olds ability to pick which team is better...i know there is no perfect system out there for ranking teams, but I dislike when people put too mcuh stock into rankings. any system that has roseau as far down as they are is simply not a good one...granted i know they areplaying different competition, but still...it just doesnt make sense to me...but i see yoru point goldy in relation to some weak rankings.schedules of other sections..and i think class A will always be like that...some programs will never full develop because there are going to always be poor feeder programs in some communities where hockey is not as prevalent.

[defense]

But then, Alexandria is the only other worth while team for Little Falls to play against........they must have had an off night in Fergus and Sartell......so any way, DL beat Fergus, Fergus beat DL, DL lost to Wadena, Fergus beat Wadena, Alex routed Apollo, ..........and on and on....Alexandria, Fergus Falls, Little Falls, St.Cloud Apollo, Sartell are in the Central Lakes Conference, wich pretty much dominates a team's schedule, so yeah, ALex and Sartell's schedule is by far the toughest....
In any case, Little Falls is on the top, Alexandria and Fergus Falls are close adn just above St. Cloud Apollo, and who knows beyond that...