Roseau Vs. Buffalo (1-12-08)

[slapshooter]

It's just like I said!

SS

[Bash Brother]

It's just like I said!

SS

Holy smokes slappy is back

[slapshooter]

What the heck happened to the Roseau Holiday Tourney thread?

'cause that's where I told yu just what I said!

I ain't got the time to say where I've been,

B(_!_)T in case yu missed it I'll say it again...

S S UNDEFEATED 2 8

[HOFam'r]

Just unhooked the dogsled and 800 miles later we are back...Game was interesting and fun...Buffalo was outplayed but did get a few scoring chances today...many Roseau shots came on Power Play and you dont want them on it as they move the puck very well. Game was won on special teams as Roso Penalty Kill was equally impressive...It was a great venue and a great experoence for our kids...

Hockey is the most important thing in Roseau...period. Buffalo earned some respect today from the Roso players/fans and I even saw Ness get walked one time...he then made up for it with a big hit...

Thanks Roso for a great time in our brief visit...it was a fun game and most Roseau fans were surprised by the Bison effort...especially Zitter who returned to his old form...now if we can get our forwards to get him a couple goals he can win just about any game...

[TKO_81]

HOFam'r is correct when he says Buffalo was outplayed. They were dominated 5 on 5, 5 on 4, and 4 on 5. There is respect for a Buffalo team that kept working all three periods. The Buffalo goaly should be hoisted on their shoulders because he was the only reason this game was not a BIG blowout (on the scoreboard). The tender made a lopsided game look like a respectable showing if you simply look at the score. As far as Ness getting walked, he did partially fan on a pass to Koenig which gave buffalo a breakaway opportunity (in my opinion he didn't simply get walked????) A big high five goes to the Buffalo goaltender and the Roseau Ram hockey team.

[WayOutWest]

Buffalo earned some respect today from the Roso players/fans and I even saw Ness get walked one time...he then made up for it with a big hit...

Thanks Roso for a great time in our brief visit...it was a fun game and most Roseau fans were surprised by the Bison effort...especially Zitter who returned to his old form...now if we can get our forwards to get him a couple goals he can win just about any game...

I don't know how Buffalo "earned respect" by getting fully outshot, not scoring at all, and losing 3-0. What were you expecting? 8-0? 9-0? Worse?
Would 2-0 be classified as a "Herculean effort", and a 1-0 loss be equated to the 1980 Olympic squad? This was the third consecutive three goal win by Roseau. It may theoretically, then, put Buffalo in the company of East Grand Forks and Warroad. (But, those teams did score against Roseau) Regardless, congratulations................I guess?

[HOFam'r]

Okay..I guess Buffalo's skaters all stink...sheesh...BTW...Buffalo official scorebook had shots at 39-24...with PP shots Roseau 15 Buffalo 4...leaving shots 24 -20 5 on 5...just a note...but if it makes you feel better writing about domination and so on...feel free...

[HOFam'r]

Buffalo earned some respect today from the Roso players/fans and I even saw Ness get walked one time...he then made up for it with a big hit...

Thanks Roso for a great time in our brief visit...it was a fun game and most Roseau fans were surprised by the Bison effort...especially Zitter who returned to his old form...now if we can get our forwards to get him a couple goals he can win just about any game...

I don't know how Buffalo "earned respect" by getting fully outshot, not scoring at all, and losing 3-0. What were you expecting? 8-0? 9-0? Worse?
Would 2-0 be classified as a "Herculean effort", and a 1-0 loss be equated to the 1980 Olympic squad? This was the third consecutive three goal win by Roseau. It may theoretically, then, put Buffalo in the company of East Grand Forks and Warroad. (But, those teams did score against Roseau) Regardless, congratulations................I guess?

No Chris- I was hoping that Buffalo could earn some respect in the hockey community...

[wishock]

Just unhooked the dogsled and 800 miles later we are back...Game was interesting and fun...Buffalo was outplayed but did get a few scoring chances today...many Roseau shots came on Power Play and you dont want them on it as they move the puck very well. Game was won on special teams as Roso Penalty Kill was equally impressive...It was a great venue and a great experoence for our kids...

Hockey is the most important thing in Roseau...period. Buffalo earned some respect today from the Roso players/fans and I even saw Ness get walked one time...he then made up for it with a big hit...

Thanks Roso for a great time in our brief visit...it was a fun game and most Roseau fans were surprised by the Bison effort...especially Zitter who returned to his old form...now if we can get our forwards to get him a couple goals he can win just about any game...

I'm just getting ready to hook up the dogsled and head back to Wisconsin. Beautiful morning with fresh snow coming down. I enjoyed the game. Impressed how Buffalo kept working and kept the game fun. Your goalie was amazing. I enjoyed sitting by your Bantam team watching their response to Roseau's play and some of the awesome stops the goalie was getting. Nice kids and a great time.

[HOFam'r]

Just unhooked the dogsled and 800 miles later we are back...Game was interesting and fun...Buffalo was outplayed but did get a few scoring chances today...many Roseau shots came on Power Play and you dont want them on it as they move the puck very well. Game was won on special teams as Roso Penalty Kill was equally impressive...It was a great venue and a great experoence for our kids...

Hockey is the most important thing in Roseau...period. Buffalo earned some respect today from the Roso players/fans and I even saw Ness get walked one time...he then made up for it with a big hit...

Thanks Roso for a great time in our brief visit...it was a fun game and most Roseau fans were surprised by the Bison effort...especially Zitter who returned to his old form...now if we can get our forwards to get him a couple goals he can win just about any game...

I'm just getting ready to hook up the dogsled and head back to Wisconsin. Beautiful morning with fresh snow coming down. I enjoyed the game. Impressed how Buffalo kept working and kept the game fun. Your goalie was amazing. I enjoyed sitting by your Bantam team watching their response to Roseau's play and some of the awesome stops the goalie was getting. Nice kids and a great time.

Our goalie can get in a zone where there is no one better...I have seen it few times out of him...thanks I had fun in Roseau and other than a few pompous fans most of the people were very nice.

[WayOutWest]

Buffalo earned some respect today from the Roso players/fans and I even saw Ness get walked one time...he then made up for it with a big hit...

Thanks Roso for a great time in our brief visit...it was a fun game and most Roseau fans were surprised by the Bison effort...especially Zitter who returned to his old form...now if we can get our forwards to get him a couple goals he can win just about any game...

I don't know how Buffalo "earned respect" by getting fully outshot, not scoring at all, and losing 3-0. What were you expecting? 8-0? 9-0? Worse?
Would 2-0 be classified as a "Herculean effort", and a 1-0 loss be equated to the 1980 Olympic squad? This was the third consecutive three goal win by Roseau. It may theoretically, then, put Buffalo in the company of East Grand Forks and Warroad. (But, those teams did score against Roseau) Regardless, congratulations................I guess?

No Chris- I was hoping that Buffalo could earn some respect in the hockey community...

Chris?
Buffalo is currently ranked #51 on MinnHock. Not respectful enough? Where did you imagine they should be? Why?

[Ram Hockey]

Goals by Period 1 2 3 Tot
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Buffalo............. 0 0 0 - 0
Roseau.............. 0 2 1 - 3

1st period - Penalties - Josh Franke, BUF (interference) 7:27; Ryan
Weston, ROS (interference) 12:17.

2nd period - 1, ROS, Ben Nelson/10 (Tyler Landman, Dustin Moser)
9:07. 2, ROS, Aaron Ness/15 (Nick Oliver, Dustin Moser) 13:45 (pp).
Penalties - Dean Beaton, BUF (holding) 1:27; Ben Nelson, ROS (holding)
5:51; Tyler Landman, ROS (slashing) 9:49; Cole Meyer, BUF (boarding)
13:35; Mitch Martinson, ROS (holding) 16:28.

3rd period - 3, ROS, Ryan Weston/1 (Jason Fabian, Adam Knochenmus)
3:06. Penalties - Ben Nelson, ROS (roughing) 7:57; Mitch Veit, BUF
(roughing) 7:57; Cole Meyer, BUF (holding) 8:04; Jason Fabian, ROS
(roughing) 8:04; Kyle Bodell, ROS (interference) 9:38; Josh Gaughan,
BUF (slashing) 12:19; Matt Leaf, BUF (interference) 15:51.

Shots on goal - BUF 3-8-4 15; ROS 13-19-11 43.

Power plays - BUF 0 of 4; ROS 1 of 5.

Penalties - BUF 7 (14 min); ROS 7 (14 min).

Goalies - BUF, Jon Zitur (51:00 minutes, 43 shots-40 saves); ROS,
Mike Lee 12-0 (51:00, 15-15).

[PASTRAPIDSFAN]

[quote="Ram Hockey"]Goals by Period 1 2 3 Tot
----------------------------------
Buffalo............. 0 0 0 - 0
Roseau.............. 0 2 1 - 3

1st period - Penalties - Josh Franke, BUF (interference) 7:27; Ryan
Weston, ROS (interference) 12:17.

2nd period - 1, ROS, Ben Nelson/10 (Tyler Landman, Dustin Moser)
9:07. 2, ROS, Aaron Ness/15 (Nick Oliver, Dustin Moser) 13:45 (pp).
Penalties - Dean Beaton, BUF (holding) 1:27; Ben Nelson, ROS (holding)
5:51; Tyler Landman, ROS (slashing) 9:49; Cole Meyer, BUF (boarding)
13:35; Mitch Martinson, ROS (holding) 16:28.

3rd period - 3, ROS, Ryan Weston/1 (Jason Fabian, Adam Knochenmus)
3:06. Penalties - Ben Nelson, ROS (roughing) 7:57; Mitch Veit, BUF
(roughing) 7:57; Cole Meyer, BUF (holding) 8:04; Jason Fabian, ROS
(roughing) 8:04; Kyle Bodell, ROS (interference) 9:38; Josh Gaughan,
BUF (slashing) 12:19; Matt Leaf, BUF (interference) 15:51.

Shots on goal - BUF 3-8-4 15; ROS 13-19-11 43.

Power plays - BUF 0 of 4; ROS 1 of 5.

Penalties - BUF 7 (15 min); ROS 7 (14 min).

Goalies - BUF, Jon Zitur (51:00 minutes, 43 shots-40 saves); ROS,
Mike Lee 12-0 (51:00, 15-15).[/quote
I expected more scoring

[HOFam'r]

I don't know how Buffalo "earned respect" by getting fully outshot, not scoring at all, and losing 3-0. What were you expecting? 8-0? 9-0? Worse?
Would 2-0 be classified as a "Herculean effort", and a 1-0 loss be equated to the 1980 Olympic squad? This was the third consecutive three goal win by Roseau. It may theoretically, then, put Buffalo in the company of East Grand Forks and Warroad. (But, those teams did score against Roseau) Regardless, congratulations................I guess?

No Chris- I was hoping that Buffalo could earn some respect in the hockey community...

Chris?
Buffalo is currently ranked #51 on MinnHock. Not respectful enough? Where did you imagine they should be? Why?

Buffalo is ranked about right on MinnHock...51 vs Roseau you seem to know everything so why dont you tell me what you think the score should have been...

[topperhockey]

Roseau 8-0

[WayOutWest]

quote="HOFam'r"] Buffalo is ranked about right on MinnHock...51 vs Roseau you seem to know everything so why dont you tell me what you think the score should have been...[/quote]

Buffalo at #51? I'd say that's about right.

#51 vs Roseau? 3-0 is not out of the "expected" range.

Pssssst.........I don't "know everything", but I do know that Buffalo didn't garner a whole lot of additional respect by being shut out by Roseau. Let's wait for the next MinnHock rankings to see if I am wrong, eh?

[WayOutWest]

Roseau 8-0

This would imply that people think that Buffalo is pretty bad. When a team "surprisingly" doesn't get absolutely blown off the ice, is that analogous to "earning respect?"

[Can't Never Tried]

Although Buffalo didn't put up any points they still kept it within 3.
Same spread as the Moorhead game at MH, who is ranked 8th on ps2 where as Buffalo is ranked 51.

Anytime you keep one of, if not thee best team in the state to a 3 goal margin on the road that's respectful.

It also doesn't matter if their goalie kept them in the game, many a goalie has done this before, and it is a team game.

I think it's great that both teams had that game on their schedule, and for Buffalo making the drive.

I only wish it would have been at Buffalo so I could have gone

[HockeyFan1]

Buffalo's goalie did impress me. Roseau had more quality chances in the 2nd and 3rd period, and he made some impressive saves.

It was just a matter of time before the Rams would hit the back of the net with the amount of shots they were getting, but hat's off to the Buffalo goalie.

I also heard (and saw) some nice things about Buffalo players in general off the ice. Seemed to handle themselves well as young men!

So, they managed to earn respect one way or the other this weekend!

[Puckguy19]

Buffalo earned some respect today from the Roso players/fans and I even saw Ness get walked one time...he then made up for it with a big hit...

Thanks Roso for a great time in our brief visit...it was a fun game and most Roseau fans were surprised by the Bison effort...especially Zitter who returned to his old form...now if we can get our forwards to get him a couple goals he can win just about any game...

I don't know how Buffalo "earned respect" by getting fully outshot, not scoring at all, and losing 3-0. What were you expecting? 8-0? 9-0? Worse?
Would 2-0 be classified as a "Herculean effort", and a 1-0 loss be equated to the 1980 Olympic squad? This was the third consecutive three goal win by Roseau. It may theoretically, then, put Buffalo in the company of East Grand Forks and Warroad. (But, those teams did score against Roseau) Regardless, congratulations................I guess?

No Chris- I was hoping that Buffalo could earn some respect in the hockey community...

HOF - Please don't confuse me with WOW. Saw the game, and would certainly agree with your assessment. Thought Zitur was amazing and he made some key saves. Thought Buffalo was good 5 on 5, and just wish we had seen more of even strength play. Roseau had more depth, and moved the puck with precision.

I think Buffalo earned respect, and heard it from a number of people associated with the Roseau program. Not many times this year Roseau has had to play three period with intensity.

No, 2-0 would not be a Herculean effort, nor would 1-0 compare to the Miracle on Ice (as it will never be re-created). What the game was though, was a good effort by a good team, that has continually developed over the last ten to fifteen years. I think Buffalo established themselves as a top four team in Section 8, and will have to be reckoned with come February. No predictions, but there is a reason games are played. We've seen Holy Angels and CDH make quick exits the last few years. Roseau is without a doubt the favorite, but I wouldn't bet against an upset or two in the final four.

[HOFam'r]

I don't know how Buffalo "earned respect" by getting fully outshot, not scoring at all, and losing 3-0. What were you expecting? 8-0? 9-0? Worse?
Would 2-0 be classified as a "Herculean effort", and a 1-0 loss be equated to the 1980 Olympic squad? This was the third consecutive three goal win by Roseau. It may theoretically, then, put Buffalo in the company of East Grand Forks and Warroad. (But, those teams did score against Roseau) Regardless, congratulations................I guess?

No Chris- I was hoping that Buffalo could earn some respect in the hockey community...

HOF - Please don't confuse me with WOW. Saw the game, and would certainly agree with your assessment. Thought Zitur was amazing and he made some key saves. Thought Buffalo was good 5 on 5, and just wish we had seen more of even strength play. Roseau had more depth, and moved the puck with precision.

I think Buffalo earned respect, and heard it from a number of people associated with the Roseau program. Not many times this year Roseau has had to play three period with intensity.

No, 2-0 would not be a Herculean effort, nor would 1-0 compare to the Miracle on Ice (as it will never be re-created). What the game was though, was a good effort by a good team, that has continually developed over the last ten to fifteen years. I think Buffalo established themselves as a top four team in Section 8, and will have to be reckoned with come February. No predictions, but there is a reason games are played. We've seen Holy Angels and CDH make quick exits the last few years. Roseau is without a doubt the favorite, but I wouldn't bet against an upset or two in the final four.

sorry for the confusion PG19...think I have good idea who WOW is...

[WayOutWest]

No confusion PG19...think I have good idea who WOW is...

To the contrary, confusion abounds. You have no idea who I am HOF. I do not know you, personally.

Back to the topic at hand.........
You believed, well before this game, that the Buffalo squad had significant potential. For you to effectively walk out of the rink "chesty" after Buffalo was outshot 41-16, shutout, and lost by three goals, is curious, at best.
Sure, the odds were against them, and few thought they could actually win, but with where Buffalo is, there should be some deep seeded confidence that they actually have a shot. Instead, you are giddy that they managed to keep the goal differential below 4.
Absolutely, it had to have been a great learning experience for the team. But to suggest they actually improved their standing (i.e. "earning respect") by not getting absolutely drilled, is ludicrous, and doesn't show much confidence in your team. Buffalo may deserve some fans that actually truly expect them to perform at a level higher than that, rather than those that believe "they did a great job against boys that are clearly far more talented than themselves."

[wishock]

After the game I spoke with someone who has been an integral part of the Roseau hockey program for years and he was impressed with Buffalo. There was a lot of respect in his comments. I also came to the realization this weekend that most people don't read this stuff anyway, especially hockey players and their families. Probably a good thing.

[Puckguy19]

For you to effectively walk out of the rink "chesty" after Buffalo was outshot 41-16, shutout, and lost by three goals, is curious, at best.

Not sure anyone walked out of Memorial "chesty." In fact, I would say there was a measure of disappointment, at an opportunity lost. That's what usually happen when you give a good effort for three periods and come up short. The biggest difference in my eyes was depth. Roseau comes hard with 3+ lines, and for most schools in the state that's hard to match.

Buffalo has a junior/sophomore line that is very good, a goalie that can be a game-changer, and a roster that gives a good effort.

Not many expected to see Roseau in Saint Paul last March, especially after being handled pretty easily in two games by Moorhead during, the regular season. There is a reason they play the games.

[WayOutWest]

After the game I spoke with someone who has been an integral part of the Roseau hockey program for years and he was impressed with Buffalo. There was a lot of respect in his comments. I also came to the realization this weekend that most people don't read this stuff anyway, especially hockey players and their families. Probably a good thing.

While it may be true that most people don't read these things, I would contend that nearly all the people that do are players, former players, family members, coaches, and people in the program......or coming up through an association. Why else would they be here? This stuff isn't entertaining to someone who isn't linked, somehow.