Previewing the State Tourney SEEDS - 2/28

WatchDog'sRight · Post by **WatchDog'sRight** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:38 pm

packerboy wrote:Its a bleeping fact. Its not subject to debate. They do not play a difficult schedule. End of discussion. I dont care why they dont play a tough schedule, they dont.

Now, what does that mean?

I dont think the Rams should necessarily be punished for it and not seeded, but they shpuldn't get a pass on it either.

I don't understand how Roseau won last night. Moorhead's regular season schedule was much tougher.

packerboy · Post by **packerboy** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:40 pm

WatchDog'sRight wrote:
packerboy wrote:Its a bleeping fact. Its not subject to debate. They do not play a difficult schedule. End of discussion. I dont care why they dont play a tough schedule, they dont.

Now, what does that mean?

I dont think the Rams should necessarily be punished for it and not seeded, but they shpuldn't get a pass on it either.

I don't understand how Roseau won last night. Moorhead's regular season schedule was much tougher.

So were the schedules of 4O other schools.

BIAFP · Post by **BIAFP** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:41 pm

I have been watching the tourney for many years and I have yet to see a trophy or medals awarded for strength of schedule

packerboy · Post by **packerboy** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:44 pm

Its a seeding discussion BIAFP. I have yet to hear about a seeding meeting where strength of schedule wasn't discussed.

watchdog · Post by **watchdog** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:49 pm

the only way roseau schedule could have been any weaker is if we played ssp..

The Huge Hook · Post by **The Huge Hook** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:49 pm

watchdog wrote:and give the north some respect.

As a "Citiot" and an Edina pimp, many of us have great respect for the north some may even call it envy.

My experience leads me to believe that, year in - year out, great hockey is played up north.

Don't take the ribbing too hard.

There is absolutely no way Roseau will not be seeded #1, even Cake Eaters know as much.

WatchDog'sRight · Post by **WatchDog'sRight** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:51 pm

packerboy wrote:Its a seeding discussion BIAFP. I have yet to hear about a seeding meeting where strength of schedule wasn't discussed.

And you aren't part of it.

The Huge Hook · Post by **The Huge Hook** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:53 pm

BIAFP wrote:I have been watching the tourney for many years and I have yet to see a trophy or medals awarded for strength of schedule

B...........We've had this conversation before. The SOS trophies are in a dusty cloak room in Braemar's East Rink.

Hidden from normal view!

packerboy · Post by **packerboy** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:59 pm

watchdog wrote:the only way roseau schedule could have been any weaker is if we played ssp..

Roseau played many teams that are weaker than SSP.

Kinda shot yourself in the foot on that one, eh?

packerboy · Post by **packerboy** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 3:12 pm

The Huge Hook wrote:
BIAFP wrote:I have been watching the tourney for many years and I have yet to see a trophy or medals awarded for strength of schedule
B...........We've had this conversation before. The SOS trophies are in a dusty cloak room in Braemar's East Rink.

Hidden from normal view!

Well , actaully they are hidden by the 9 Championship trophies.

O-townClown · Post by **O-townClown** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 3:28 pm

packerboy wrote:
Well , actaully they are hidden by the 9 Championship trophies.

Three hundred sixty-four thousand, seven hundred and eleven if you include Girls Tennis.

Packerboy, Roseau didn't play the hardest schedule. Doesn't matter, they're obviously very good.

Maybe they will lose in St. Paul, but if "Cindy Crawford is beautiful" is a fact so is "Roseau has a great HS hockey team" this season.

Still planning on seeing an Edina-Roseau final. Enough wondering has been done on who would win a game between the two. Wouldn't it be nice to know?

Neutron 14 · Post by **Neutron 14** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 3:29 pm

I know O-Town is very aware of how good Roseau is. And he knows that I do also. They very well could be the best team in the state. But were talking about whats been proven here, and not because "watchdog or BIAFP says". To say Roseau is #1 is an opinion, and its arguable due to a less than stellar SOS. And one thing I know about packerboy is that if its arguable, he will argue it.

It just so happens I agree with him.

O-townClown · Post by **O-townClown** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 3:31 pm

Neutron 14 wrote:I know O-Town is very aware of how good Roseau is. And he knows that I do also. They very well could be the best team in the state. But were talking about whats been proven here, and not because "watchdog or BIAFP says". To say Roseau is #1 is an opinion, and its arguable due to a less than stellar SOS. And one thing I know about packerboy is that if its arguable, he will argue it. It just so happens I agree with him.

Neut:

"Roseau is #1" does not equal "Roseau is the #1 seed". They are the #1 seed. What is this thread about?

The discussions on Roseau and their schedule or perceived weaknesses belong on the "Who will win state?" threads.

AngusYoung · Post by **AngusYoung** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 3:33 pm

O-townClown wrote:
packerboy wrote:
Well , actaully they are hidden by the 9 Championship trophies.
Three hundred sixty-four thousand, seven hundred and eleven if you include Girls Tennis.

Packerboy, Roseau didn't play the hardest schedule. Doesn't matter, they're obviously very good.

Maybe they will lose in St. Paul, but if "Cindy Crawford is beautiful" is a fact so is "Roseau has a great HS hockey team" this season.

Still planning on seeing an Edina-Roseau final. Enough wondering has been done on who would win a game between the two. Wouldn't it be nice to know?

Cindy's no prize...

Just curious, from those involved in the discussion, how many have seen Roseau or any of the teams on Roseau's schedule play?

AY

Neutron 14 · Post by **Neutron 14** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 3:37 pm

O-townClown wrote:
Neut:

They are the #1 seed.

When was this announced?

Neutron 14 · Post by **Neutron 14** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 3:38 pm

The only opinions that count are the opinions of the 8 coaches who vote. I'm guessing SOS will come up.

packerboy · Post by **packerboy** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 3:39 pm

Neutron 14 wrote:I know O-Town is very aware of how good Roseau is. And he knows that I do also. They very well could be the best team in the state. But were talking about whats been proven here, and not because "watchdog or BIAFP says". To say Roseau is #1 is an opinion, and its arguable due to a less than stellar SOS. And one thing I know about packerboy is that if its arguable, he will argue it. It just so happens I agree with him.

You are right Neut but all seriousness aside, I am not saying Roseau shouldnt be #1 just to be difficult or argue something. I really dont believe that they deserve it.

If Edinas was 19-6 or something, fine but they lose 2 games by one goal each to BSM and Tonka and so that puts them at #2 because Roseau is undefeated with that schedule. Bullship.

Orty · Post by **Orty** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 3:42 pm

My $.02 =

Edina
Hill
Roseau
Benilde

Why? Because of who they play. SOS should and will matter.

Orty

Govs93 · Post by **Govs93** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 3:44 pm

packerboy wrote:
Neutron 14 wrote:I know O-Town is very aware of how good Roseau is. And he knows that I do also. They very well could be the best team in the state. But were talking about whats been proven here, and not because "watchdog or BIAFP says". To say Roseau is #1 is an opinion, and its arguable due to a less than stellar SOS. And one thing I know about packerboy is that if its arguable, he will argue it. It just so happens I agree with him.
You are right Neut but all seriousness aside, I am not saying Roseau shouldnt be #1 just to be difficult or argue something. I really dont believe that they deserve it.

If Edinas was 19-6 or something, fine but they lose 2 games by one goal each to BSM and Tonka and so that puts them at #2 because Roseau is undefeated with that schedule. Bullship.

In all honesty, they finished on top last season and haven't lost since - it's hard to argue against them being #1. They've earned it... Doesn't mean it's not fun just to get the Rams' faithful riled up though!

O-townClown · Post by **O-townClown** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 3:45 pm

Neutron 14 wrote:
When was this announced?

next week

The Huge Hook · Post by **The Huge Hook** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 3:46 pm

AngusYoung wrote:
O-townClown wrote:
packerboy wrote:
Well , actaully they are hidden by the 9 Championship trophies.
Three hundred sixty-four thousand, seven hundred and eleven if you include Girls Tennis.

Packerboy, Roseau didn't play the hardest schedule. Doesn't matter, they're obviously very good.

Maybe they will lose in St. Paul, but if "Cindy Crawford is beautiful" is a fact so is "Roseau has a great HS hockey team" this season.

Still planning on seeing an Edina-Roseau final. Enough wondering has been done on who would win a game between the two. Wouldn't it be nice to know?
Cindy's no prize...

Just curious, from those involved in the discussion, how many have seen Roseau or any of the teams on Roseau's schedule play?

AY

I've seen Roseau twice and found them to be very, very dangerous looking at it from an Edina point of view.

Neutron 14 · Post by **Neutron 14** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 3:50 pm

packerboy wrote:
Neutron 14 wrote:I know O-Town is very aware of how good Roseau is. And he knows that I do also. They very well could be the best team in the state. But were talking about whats been proven here, and not because "watchdog or BIAFP says". To say Roseau is #1 is an opinion, and its arguable due to a less than stellar SOS. And one thing I know about packerboy is that if its arguable, he will argue it. It just so happens I agree with him.
You are right Neut but all seriousness aside, I am not saying Roseau shouldnt be #1 just to be difficult or argue something. I really dont believe that they deserve it.

Yes packerboy. I already said I agree with you.

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 3:52 pm

packerboy wrote:
watchdog wrote:the only way roseau schedule could have been any weaker is if we played ssp..
Roseau played many teams that are weaker than SSP.

Kinda shot yourself in the foot on that one, eh?

Name ONE??

Roseau had the 8th toughest schedule in MSHS hockey this season.

packerboy · Post by **packerboy** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 3:52 pm

Govs93 wrote:
packerboy wrote:
Neutron 14 wrote:I know O-Town is very aware of how good Roseau is. And he knows that I do also. They very well could be the best team in the state. But were talking about whats been proven here, and not because "watchdog or BIAFP says". To say Roseau is #1 is an opinion, and its arguable due to a less than stellar SOS. And one thing I know about packerboy is that if its arguable, he will argue it. It just so happens I agree with him.
You are right Neut but all seriousness aside, I am not saying Roseau shouldnt be #1 just to be difficult or argue something. I really dont believe that they deserve it.

If Edinas was 19-6 or something, fine but they lose 2 games by one goal each to BSM and Tonka and so that puts them at #2 because Roseau is undefeated with that schedule. Bullship.
In all honesty, they finished on top last season and haven't lost since - it's hard to argue against them being #1. They've earned it... Doesn't mean it's not fun just to get the Rams' faithful riled up though!

I have never been to a HS hockey seeding meeting but I have talked to guys that have. How a team did last year was never discussed as a critera. Is it?

who_b_dat · Post by **who_b_dat** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 3:58 pm

I love the smell of napalm in the morning. You sure can tell the excitement is building.

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