Cloquet at Duluth East (12/18 at the DECC)

Post by **karl(east)** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:58 am

Time to renew one of Minnesota's greatest rivalries. At first glance this game appears to be a complete mismatch, but history has taught us that an edge in talent in this game means little to nothing. Dave Esse has a way of making sure the Jacks show up for East, no matter the situation, and if East lets Cloquet build any confidence, this game could become very dangerous, very quickly. As for East, a loss in this game would probably really get Cloquet into their heads, and the doubt would begin.

Some random series notes:
-East has not won the annual December game between these two since 2000. They are 0-6-1 since.
-East holds a 7-3 edge at the DECC since the 98-99 season. On the other hand, they have not won in Cloquet since 1999 (0-6-2).
-Since the 98-99 season, this series is 13-13-2, with the teams going 4-4 in their playoff meetings.

Mite-dad · Post by **Mite-dad** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:52 am

DE 5 - CEC 2

Lucia4President · Post by **Lucia4President** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:33 pm

Duluth East in running time.

Chuck Off · Post by **Chuck Off** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:01 pm

Cloquet barely beat Proctor in a 5-4 game, but East knows first hand that Cloquet plays a whole different game against them. From karl's stats we can see East has not won the December game since 2000, well ill say this is the year they win it....

5-0, my boy Coops first matchup against Cloquet in december will be a good one

St8ofhockey · Post by **St8ofhockey** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:44 pm

cloquet 3-2.

Shots

East-36
Cloquet-22

E · Post by E » Mon Dec 15, 2008 3:02 pm

DE 5
CEC 1

dynamicD · Post by **dynamicD** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 3:24 pm

I really don't see how Cloquet could keep up with Duluth East in this one

DE 6
Cloquet 2

St8ofhockey · Post by **St8ofhockey** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 3:50 pm

Your series notes are wrong Karl.

Since the 98-99 season, the series is 13-13-2

Cloquet holds the edge at the DECC with a 9-8-1 record

East holds the edge in Cloquet with a 5-4-1 record

But since the 2000-2001 season the series is 13-7-2

hshckfan08 · Post by **hshckfan08** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:12 pm

Even Cloquet's recent success in December will not help them out in this one... Cooper get's another shutout
hounds- 4
jacks- 0

St8ofhockey · Post by **St8ofhockey** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:21 pm

his odds of getting another shutout are certianly better without david brown shooting against him

Post by **karl(east)** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 5:06 pm

St8ofhockey wrote:Your series notes are wrong Karl.

Since the 98-99 season, the series is 13-13-2

Cloquet holds the edge at the DECC with a 9-8-1 record

East holds the edge in Cloquet with a 5-4-1 record

But since the 2000-2001 season the series is 13-7-2

1. I wasn't counting playoff games at the DECC (or in Cloquet, for that matter; the Minnhock archives list one of the playoff games--99 I think it was--as taking place there) in the DECC figure.

2. For the other records, though, I was just assuming the current rotation schedule has held (all games @Cloquet in odd years and vice versa) since 98. This could have changed, though. Is this where I'm wrong? Because it's the only way I could be, unless my source lies, which I doubt.

3. Yes, the series is 13-13-2, and yes, East was 6-0 in the first two years. I chose this time frame because 1) 10 years is a good, round period of years to use, and 2) That's as far back as I can go in pilfering records from Lee on Minnhock.

dulutheastfan · Post by **dulutheastfan** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 5:25 pm

Lucia4President wrote:Duluth East in running time.

enough said East wins this one 6-0 another shutout for Coop

St8ofhockey · Post by **St8ofhockey** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 5:50 pm

karl(east) wrote:
St8ofhockey wrote:Your series notes are wrong Karl.

Since the 98-99 season, the series is 13-13-2

Cloquet holds the edge at the DECC with a 9-8-1 record

East holds the edge in Cloquet with a 5-4-1 record

But since the 2000-2001 season the series is 13-7-2
1. I wasn't counting playoff games at the DECC (or in Cloquet, for that matter; the Minnhock archives list one of the playoff games--99 I think it was--as taking place there) in the DECC figure.

2. For the other records, though, I was just assuming the current rotation schedule has held (all games @Cloquet in odd years and vice versa) since 98. This could have changed, though. Is this where I'm wrong? Because it's the only way I could be, unless my source lies, which I doubt.

3. Yes, the series is 13-13-2, and yes, East was 6-0 in the first two years. I chose this time frame because 1) 10 years is a good, round period of years to use, and 2) That's as far back as I can go in pilfering records from Lee on Minnhock.

I believe the rotation switched one year. Im sure Lee would know. The last time East won in cloquet was the 2003-2004 season.

snapdog · Post by **snapdog** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 6:11 pm

East 7 Cloquet 2 This is exactly as it looks. East is strong Cloquet is down. Cloquet has a right to be down. Great hockey town. Looks like Rapids is down as well. You know what though lots can happen during the course of a Hig School Hockey season. P.S. I would sure suffer a lot more before retirement without High School Hockey!

Post by **karl(east)** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 6:45 pm

St8ofhockey wrote:
karl(east) wrote:
St8ofhockey wrote:Your series notes are wrong Karl.

Since the 98-99 season, the series is 13-13-2

Cloquet holds the edge at the DECC with a 9-8-1 record

East holds the edge in Cloquet with a 5-4-1 record

But since the 2000-2001 season the series is 13-7-2
1. I wasn't counting playoff games at the DECC (or in Cloquet, for that matter; the Minnhock archives list one of the playoff games--99 I think it was--as taking place there) in the DECC figure.

2. For the other records, though, I was just assuming the current rotation schedule has held (all games @Cloquet in odd years and vice versa) since 98. This could have changed, though. Is this where I'm wrong? Because it's the only way I could be, unless my source lies, which I doubt.

3. Yes, the series is 13-13-2, and yes, East was 6-0 in the first two years. I chose this time frame because 1) 10 years is a good, round period of years to use, and 2) That's as far back as I can go in pilfering records from Lee on Minnhock.
I believe the rotation switched one year. Im sure Lee would know. The last time East won in cloquet was the 2003-2004 season.

OK, if that's right the switch would have ocurred post 03-04.

The series breaks down like this:
YRS DEC FEB PLAYOFF
98-99 DE DE DE
99-00 DE DE DE
00-01 DE CEC CEC
01-02 T DE CEC
02-03 CEC CEC --
03-04 CEC DE DE
04-05 CEC CEC DE
05-06 CEC DE CEC
06-07 CEC T --
07-08 CEC DE CEC

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Adam Banks · Post by **Adam Banks** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:20 pm

Lucia4President wrote:Duluth East in running time.

agreed

Post by **east hockey** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:47 pm

On paper, East should win easily; there is no disputing that fact. Problem is, things get weird between these two teams. I'm hoping East uses what happened in last year's 7AA semifinals as motivation (which they better have enough of already) to kick the living bejabbers out of the Jacks.

East by three.

Lee

Post by **east hockey** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:56 pm

St8ofhockey wrote:
karl(east) wrote:
St8ofhockey wrote:Your series notes are wrong Karl.

Since the 98-99 season, the series is 13-13-2

Cloquet holds the edge at the DECC with a 9-8-1 record

East holds the edge in Cloquet with a 5-4-1 record

But since the 2000-2001 season the series is 13-7-2
1. I wasn't counting playoff games at the DECC (or in Cloquet, for that matter; the Minnhock archives list one of the playoff games--99 I think it was--as taking place there) in the DECC figure.

2. For the other records, though, I was just assuming the current rotation schedule has held (all games @Cloquet in odd years and vice versa) since 98. This could have changed, though. Is this where I'm wrong? Because it's the only way I could be, unless my source lies, which I doubt.

3. Yes, the series is 13-13-2, and yes, East was 6-0 in the first two years. I chose this time frame because 1) 10 years is a good, round period of years to use, and 2) That's as far back as I can go in pilfering records from Lee on Minnhock.
I believe the rotation switched one year. Im sure Lee would know. The last time East won in cloquet was the 2003-2004 season.

2/10/04 was East's last win in a game played in Cloquet.

Lee

san yo assassin · Post by **san yo assassin** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:53 pm

east 6-0 shots 45 to 19

Rocketwrister · Post by **Rocketwrister** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 8:40 am

Although I sure hope the Jacks pull a victory out; just not sure if they can over power East this year.

Lumberjack · Post by **Lumberjack** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:28 am

Unless they tighten up their defense a bit, this one could get ugly for the Jacks. I see East 5-1.

dulutheastfan · Post by **dulutheastfan** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:59 pm

If they play like they did against Centennial, East will win cloquet has not been playing good hockey lately...

PASTRAPIDSFAN · Post by **PASTRAPIDSFAN** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 7:37 am

East running time

HoundHockeyForever · Post by **HoundHockeyForever** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 9:25 pm

It's nice to see all those stats dug up.. I was wondering how these two have faired against each other in recent years, knowing that it was close but I didn't know it was that close. I'd have to say one of the best East wins over Cloquet was the 04-05 playoff game.. 2OT.. Kyle Micheal's first career varsity goal to win it.. beautiful.

It does look like East should be able to handle Cloquet like they haven't been able to in years past, buuuut it is a huge rivalry game, and like Karl pointed out, Esse gets the Lumberjacks ready to go for these games. Just gotta wait and see what happens!

northhockey23 · Post by **northhockey23** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 10:33 pm

East-6
Cloquet-1

East dominates the whole game.

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