Edina vs AHA 1/1/09

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Who takes the ship?

Poll ended at Fri Jan 02, 2009 12:04 am

Edina
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AHA
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TheMeanRichJokeMan wrote:[Especially a possible match up at Mariucci on the big sheet where Edina's size will be less of a factor. When AHA had even a little space they were dangerous.
No doubt AHA can be dangerous at times. However, I didn't see a team that I thought was beat because of Edina's size. It seemed to me Edina could hang with AHA stride for stride but also had the bigger players to win the one on one battles. It wasn't like AHA lost because they were getting physically pounded. I don't think Olympic ice would have changed anything last night.
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Post by Doglover »

I agree - on a bigger sheet of ice, the speed of the Hornets would be an advantage. They were fun to watch - I was a bit disappointed with AHA. Thought it would be a closer game. Looks like Flintstone nailed the score.
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Gopher Blog wrote:
TheMeanRichJokeMan wrote:[Especially a possible match up at Mariucci on the big sheet where Edina's size will be less of a factor. When AHA had even a little space they were dangerous.
No doubt AHA can be dangerous at times. However, I didn't see a team that I thought was beat because of Edina's size. It seemed to me Edina could hang with AHA stride for stride but also had the bigger players to win the one on one battles. It wasn't like AHA lost because they were getting physically pounded. I don't think Olympic ice would have changed anything last night.
I'd have to agree. An Olympic-sized sheet might help AHA a tiny bit, but it wouldn't have come close to changing the outcome of last night's game. Edina's top defenders matched up against AHA's first line much better than AHA's defense did with Lee-Everson-Gaarder.

Another thing worthy of note is the play of Edina's 2nd and 3rd lines. Down the stretch last year, it felt like Edina was relying way too much on the top line for everything, while last night all three were producing quality scoring chances. It's probably this team's biggest improvement, and it makes up for a relatively inexperienced goalie and a defensive group that, while it still has some top-end talent and pretty good depth, is missing Joe Gleason.
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edina vs aha

Post by buddish4mrhockey »

after watching the Edina vs AHA game, i walked out of the arena with these outlooks on the team

Edina: edina is really good. they are big and fast and can finish the puck. they are also very good at breaking it out of their own zone. Goalie struggled but im not to worried about that he still only let in 2 goals. man can they score
Favorite of 2AA they are deep in good players.

AHA: craftiest team in the state past the redline. Mattson didnt show up for the game and was only there in spurts. Burke played really well he is the key to success for the stars. all 3 Reills played extremely well. i was surprised about the little guy back at D. The only adjustments trebil needs to make to contend with Edina is their defense. they are awful at getting the puck out of the zone and a number of the defenseman dont know they are doing out there.

as for oneIdmonsta YOUR AN IDIOT. if you watched the game you would of saw that C.Reilly was a top 5 player on the ice and had about 6 or 7 of the STARS 20 shots.
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Post by dzonecoverage »

i wonder what Webb thougth about the game??!!??
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Post by FightingSiouxForever »

dzonecoverage wrote:i wonder what Webb thougth about the game??!!??
that is a very good question! he was actually at the first two schwans cup games. didn't see him there last night but i can't really see him rooting for the hornets...
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Post by DmanDad1980 »

Edina showed us what they can do w/ pressure in the first two periods. Gaarder-Everson-Lee controlled the game when they wanted too. I also agree w/ the assessment that this is not a one line team, as last year turned into, all three lines put pressure on AHA and produced good scoring chances often... The third period was controlled defensively by Edina, just trying to get this win in the books. Very nice win and game for Edina!

Mattson and the Reillys looked good at times in the offensive zone, but were beat often in their D zone by Edina. Goalie Burke was very good, but being shelled from all sides, w/o much D zone coverage help, as Edina forwards roamed uncovered for much of the first two periods...

Large ice sheet would not have helped AHA on this night.

I would love to schedule and watch a Jefferson-Edina game before Sections, but we will have to wait for this one come March...
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Post by oldguy39 »

The young Reilly at D was totally out matched by Edina' size.He was on the ice for at least 3 of Edina' goals and had one penalty.Thats not a good game.
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Post by Zamman »

Everyone seems to have nailed this one on the head. i too agree that there was some defensive breakdowns by AHA, but as a loyal follower of them I saw some bright spots on D that I thought were missing.
Keep in mind that Edina had played four more games than AHA, so most of AHA's time has been on practice so far. On the bigger sheet of ice both teams will be flying. I think that the defense will be the key if they end up playing in the final.

Why worry about what Webb thinks?
If you ask that let's also ask what Kes thinks after leaving and going to Burnsville. Or how about those kids that should have gone to one of these schools and chose not too. My point is it does not matter what they think, or other people on this board think or even myself. The teams need to worry about themselves. This is entertainment for us.
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Post by TheMeanRichJokeMan »

dzonecoverage wrote:i wonder what Webb thougth about the game??!!??
As a loyal AHA Alum, I was happy to see Webb go. He could be outstanding at times, But was dreadful more often than not. Webb really only played a lot last season because Boerger was hurt.

So I guess as others have stated, Who cares. Burke has proven himself a top tier goaltender and If AHA loses a game it likely won't be because Webb left. Edina certainly doesn't need him either.
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Zamman wrote:Everyone seems to have nailed this one on the head. i too agree that there was some defensive breakdowns by AHA, but as a loyal follower of them I saw some bright spots on D that I thought were missing.
Keep in mind that Edina had played four more games than AHA, so most of AHA's time has been on practice so far. On the bigger sheet of ice both teams will be flying. I think that the defense will be the key if they end up playing in the final.

Why worry about what Webb thinks?
If you ask that let's also ask what Kes thinks after leaving and going to Burnsville. Or how about those kids that should have gone to one of these schools and chose not too. My point is it does not matter what they think, or other people on this board think or even myself. The teams need to worry about themselves. This is entertainment for us.

I am not sure lack of games was the issue. Edina is deeper at all positions, excluding goalie vs. AHA.
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Post by kickinwing »

aha is of course a better team than edina when they try or on a bigger sheet of ice or when they have played more games or when they are playing northfield. the shammans excuses du jour are always a side splitting side dish. and of course his grammar is flawless.
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Post by minnhock1228 »

[quote="oneIdmonsta"]theres only one thing that is better in the high school hockey then an edina lose and that is a holy angels lose great outcome tonight conner riley tried about a dozen slapshots without one ever hitting its target and that pretty much sums up AHA's play tonight not up to par.[/quote]

Edina just out played them, at points it did seem that AHA was outplaying Edina, but overall Edina was just the better team.

I think if AHA, just seemed a bit off today, not playing to their best of their abilities. If they play again, in sections, or if they play again in the year, and AHA plays a full game of hockey, not just parts I think it will be a lot closer.
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Post by oneIdmonsta »

why is it whenever a team that some ppl think are outstanding play one of the better teams in state and are basically manhandled they say they just didn't show up? i think edina would beat AHA 9 times out of 10
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Post by FightingSiouxForever »

oneIdmonsta wrote:why is it whenever a team that some ppl think are outstanding play one of the better teams in state and are basically manhandled they say they just didn't show up? i think edina would beat AHA 9 times out of 10
9 out of 10? Thats rather an outlandish statement. Edina is a good team and AHA didn't play exceptionally well. Play the Stars on a good day (defense) and they will sweep the Hornets. AHA has a lot to work on until Sections and Trebil is still trying to work out all the kinks with the first and second line.
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Post by kickinwing »

you guys [aha crowd] try to pound this same bs through every year.dream on good luck with farmington.
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Post by TheMeanRichJokeMan »

kickinwing wrote:you guys [aha crowd] try to pound this same bs through every year.dream on good luck with farmington.
And you spout your hatred of AHA in every thread. Who is your team anyway? Did an AHA player steal your girlfriend or something? Why the constant trolling? Are you eight years old or just have the intelligence of and eight year old? By the structure and lack of punctuation in your posts it could really go either way.

You are a detriment to the board, Society, And to the gene pool as a whole.

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Post by scoreboard33 »

TheMeanRichJokeMan wrote:
kickinwing wrote:you guys [aha crowd] try to pound this same bs through every year.dream on good luck with farmington.
And you spout your hatred of AHA in every thread. Who is your team anyway? Did an AHA player steal your girlfriend or something? Why the constant trolling? Are you eight years old or just have the intelligence of and eight year old? By the structure and lack of punctuation in your posts it could really go either way.

You are a detriment to the board, Society, And to the gene pool as a whole.

Have a nice day!
Because Edina dominated and destroyed AHA, and the AHA crowd is making the woulda, coulda, shoulda excuses. It gets really annoying. Accept the loss, move on and at least admit Edina is better, don't go talk about how sections will be different because you said that last year and then sucked in sections too.
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Post by TheMeanRichJokeMan »

scoreboard33 wrote:
TheMeanRichJokeMan wrote:
kickinwing wrote:you guys [aha crowd] try to pound this same bs through every year.dream on good luck with farmington.
And you spout your hatred of AHA in every thread. Who is your team anyway? Did an AHA player steal your girlfriend or something? Why the constant trolling? Are you eight years old or just have the intelligence of and eight year old? By the structure and lack of punctuation in your posts it could really go either way.

You are a detriment to the board, Society, And to the gene pool as a whole.

Have a nice day!


Because Edina dominated and destroyed AHA, and the AHA crowd is making the woulda, coulda, shoulda excuses. It gets really annoying. Accept the loss, move on and at least admit Edina is better, don't go talk about how sections will be different because you said that last year and then sucked in sections too.
I have not heard any excuses at all. Sections could be different, Due to any of the several factors mentioned in this thread. As a matter of fact, A few AHA posters mentioned Edina as being impressive. I'm not sure why you even responded to this post as kickinwing is a well known AHA basher just looking to troll.

You are more than welcome to think AHA has no shot at beating Edina this season. That's totally fine and your right as an American. However it is foolish to think that a game in January means anything more than that later in the season. While Edina might beat AHA 2 out of three games in a series that isn't how MSHSL playoffs are currently structured last I checked. If these two teams should meet again I would expect an exciting game. AHA might win, Edina might win, And that is why they play the games.

Playoffs are all about who is hot at a given time. If Tommy Burke is, That alone could do in Edina. If Edina's goalie is hot, that alone could do in AHA. But I would not punch any teams ticket to state just yet. A lot of people thought Edina had it last year facing Hill instead or Roseau in the title game, And the outcome was totally different. Was Edina the better team? Probably, But not that night.
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Post by coach95 »

I have to say that AHA Defense was their weakness. Mike R. was out matched all night. Edina was scoring at will and looked great. It should be a fun season for them. Hopefully Giles can finally win the big one!
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Post by scoreboard33 »

Holy Angels definitely will have a chance to beat Edina in sections, if they lay, but I hate when Holy Angels supporters make claims about what they are going to do in sections, they always do and are always wrong. Three years ago, it was a cake walk to state, that went great. Two years ago, they were going to stomp Burnsville, that definitely happened. Last year, they would outskte Edina and score at will, looks like that was exactly how it happened. I heard an excuse about less games and that AHA has kinks in the first line. That is just annoying.

BTW, read fightingsiousforevers post about how if AHA has a good day defensively against Edina and you will see my point.
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Post by dynamicD »

Edina made the statement they wanted make and that's that they believe they are the best team in the state. There were some doubters when they dropped one to Hill but the best of the best even lose a few games here and there.......(Well except the '93 Jags lol)
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Post by TheMeanRichJokeMan »

scoreboard33 wrote:
BTW, read fightingsiousforevers post about how if AHA has a good day defensively against Edina and you will see my point.
While his post was poorly worded and slightly arrogant, It could happen. Defensive breakdowns killed AHA the other night. If they were to say tighten things up defensively the outcome could be different. I don't think Edina (or any team) can play much better than they did thursday. And while AHA wasn't bad, They certainly were not at their best. What does this all mean? Maybe nothing, Maybe Edina will beat them again in sections. But then again Maybe it means something, Maybe it means that one game is no way to judge exactly where two teams sit and what their chances are for the rest of the season.

I also find it kinda funny that on tuesday some people were calling AHA's 6-2 win over STA close(r) because AHA scored all their goal in a couple of flurries. The Edina game was remarkably similar and suddenly it's a it's an arse whooping of epic proportions.
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Post by oneIdmonsta »

playoff really are not gunna be very much different,
aha wont even be in the section final game it will be jefferson vs. edina

and i really dnt think punctuation and grammar really matter on a hockey forum my main mean joke man
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Post by TCQQL »

oneIdmonsta wrote:playoff really are not gunna be very much different,
aha wont even be in the section final game it will be jefferson vs. edina

and i really dnt think punctuation and grammar really matter on a hockey forum my main mean joke man

Give it up!!.... Your getting old :roll:
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