Tartan Titans(13-7-1) @ Hill Murray Pioneers(14-6-1) 2-12-08

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:10 pm

A win (or tie) would give Tartan a shot at 3rd in the conference and, more importantly, great shot at a good 4AA ranking.

ImissMYhockey · Post by **ImissMYhockey** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:35 pm

There sure is a lot riding on this game for both teams. I think hill is going to win no matter what especially if tartan's goalie is out. Last time I heard, he was injured, Titans Manager, whats the update?

spectator101 · Post by **spectator101** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:44 pm

lets hear titanzdman's prediction! i'll bet he goes 13-2 tartan

hs hockey fan · Post by **hs hockey fan** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:17 pm

spectator101 wrote:lets hear titanzdman's prediction! i'll bet he goes 13-2 tartan

This game might be close and if the game at Tartan was any indications we could see another OT game which could end up in a tie again.

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:36 pm

Tartan plays up a lot at home. Hill plays down away. At Aldrich I do not believe Tartan stands a chance.

If they do win, I'm not sure where that leaves them for 4AA. They would be 6-0-1 in section games; a win tonight should give Tartan the #1 seed. Big IF though...

fanatichockeyguy · Post by **fanatichockeyguy** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:05 pm

Pioneers by at least three. The first time they played was Hills first game after they lost everyone. And even that game Hill outplayed them for almost the whole game. Crunch time brings out the best teams, and Tartan just isnt one of those.

Maybe The Titans will gain some class.

GO BEARS

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 7:23 am

I don't want to change the topic of this thread AT ALL but I'm curious if the Hill team is really changed that much. I don't know who any of the players were, but it sounded like their point totals were replaceable and Hill is doing just fine without them; played competitively with AHA, went to OT with BSM and shut out STA away. I know it changes the game play and what not when you lose players, but as far as the quality of the team, they still seem like they can play with anyone.

youngblood08 · Post by **youngblood08** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 7:59 am

HShockeywatcher wrote:I don't want to change the topic of this thread AT ALL but I'm curious if the Hill team is really changed that much. I don't know who any of the players were, but it sounded like their point totals were replaceable and Hill is doing just fine without them; played competitively with AHA, went to OT with BSM and shut out STA away. I know it changes the game play and what not when you lose players, but as far as the quality of the team, they still seem like they can play with anyone.

The only reason you don't notice a huge change is they are in the "soft part" of thier schedule.

pioneers · Post by **pioneers** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 8:01 am

The Pioneers are playing more of a grind it out style as they just don't have the big goal scorers. Will be interesting to see if he plays Tyler Zepeda at defense again tonight. I think they will prevail in a low scoring game. Also will Tartan's number one goalie be playing? I understand he left the last game with an injury.

BodyShots · Post by **BodyShots** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 8:26 am

pioneers wrote:The Pioneers are playing more of a grind it out style as they just don't have the big goal scorers. Will be interesting to see if he plays Tyler Zepeda at defense again tonight. I think they will prevail in a low scoring game. Also will Tartan's number one goalie be playing? I understand he left the last game with an injury.

I gotta see that!

Pioneerprideguy · Post by **Pioneerprideguy** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 8:42 am

I'm not sure STA would be considered "Soft"...Tartan maybe, but not STA.

pioneers · Post by **pioneers** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 9:11 am

BodyShots wrote:
pioneers wrote:The Pioneers are playing more of a grind it out style as they just don't have the big goal scorers. Will be interesting to see if he plays Tyler Zepeda at defense again tonight. I think they will prevail in a low scoring game. Also will Tartan's number one goalie be playing? I understand he left the last game with an injury.
I gotta see that!

He actually played pretty well at defense.

Scoutbanana · Post by **Scoutbanana** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 1:35 pm

Correct not much scoring power, they are just lucky that their conference is not very good this year and that section 4aa is horrible to say the least way way down from past years. They may even have a chance to still make it to state if the other 4AA teams continue to play like they have been.

RushnCircles · Post by **RushnCircles** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:40 pm

scoutbanana,
"Let's Play Hockey" previewed all of the conferences around the state in a recent issue (I want to say Dec.).
When describing the Classic Suburban Conference, I believe they stated, "possibly one of the most difficult conferences in the state"

You, obviously disagree

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:45 pm

Yeah, with St Thomas, South St Paul and Mahtomedi, I wouldn't call their conference the easy part of their schedule.

Scoutbanana · Post by **Scoutbanana** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:42 pm

Well Guess I don't ST. Thomas -South ST. PAul- Mahtomedi all in class A-

ST. Thomas & South ST.PAul probably their hardest opponents. Mahtomedi when their on their game.
Under PS2 Ratings
South ST. paul 25
Mahtomedi 29
Tartan 32

The Section is pretty much a walk through the highest rating that comes out of their is WHite Bear Lake at 17 and they have been struggling big time this year. I would say the section this year is real weak - pretty comparable to 1AA and 8AA this year.

hockeyhockeyhockey · Post by **hockeyhockeyhockey** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 7:13 pm

HShockeywatcher wrote:I don't want to change the topic of this thread AT ALL but I'm curious if the Hill team is really changed that much. I don't know who any of the players were, but it sounded like their point totals were replaceable and Hill is doing just fine without them; played competitively with AHA, went to OT with BSM and shut out STA away. I know it changes the game play and what not when you lose players, but as far as the quality of the team, they still seem like they can play with anyone.

what? they lost 2 first line stud players and one more nice forward.. the other guy did not hurt but man this team is ordinary now and were one of the 5 best teams in the state.. HUGE difference.

hockeyhockeyhockey · Post by **hockeyhockeyhockey** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 7:16 pm

leaving for the game in a few minutes..will predict 2-1 Hill

youngblood08 · Post by **youngblood08** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 7:58 pm

12/02/2008 7:00 PM at Burnsville W 6-0 F 1-0
12/06/2008 7:00 PM at Edina W 3-1 F 2-0
12/11/2008 7:30 PM at Henry Sibley (Saint Paul) W 8-1 F 3-0
12/13/2008 1:00 PM at South St. Paul (Saint Paul) W 3-2 F 4-0
12/18/2008 7:30 PM at Simley (St. Paul) W 11-1 F 5-0
12/20/2008 8:00 PM at Mahtomedi (Maplewood) W 3-2 F 6-0
12/23/2008 8:00 PM at White Bear Lake W 5-2 F 7-0
12/29/2008 6:00 PM vs. Minnetonka (Xcel Energy Center) L 3-1 F 7-1
12/30/2008 3:00 PM vs. Moorhead (Xcel Energy Center) W 7-0 F 8-1
12/31/2008 12:30 PM vs. Centennial (Aldrich Arena) L 4-1 F 8-2
01/08/2009 8:00 PM vs. St. Thomas Academy L 5-2 F 8-3
Date of the Incident.
01/10/2009 3:00 PM at Tartan T 1-1 F/OT 8-3-1
01/13/2009 7:30 PM at Holy Angels L 5-3 F 8-4-1
01/15/2009 8:00 PM vs. Richfield W 6-2 F 9-4-1
01/17/2009 8:00 PM at North St. Paul (Maplewood) W 9-1 F 10-4-1
01/20/2009 7:00 PM at Benilde-St. Margaret's (St. Louis Park) L 3-2 F/OT 10-5-1
01/24/2009 3:00 PM vs. Henry Sibley W 10-2 F 11-5-1
01/29/2009 8:00 PM vs. South St. Paul W 4-2 F 12-5-1
01/31/2009 8:00 PM vs. Simley W 10-0 F 13-5-1
02/03/2009 7:30 PM at Mahtomedi (Stillwater) L 5-2 F 13-6-1
02/07/2009 7:30 PM at St. Thomas Academy W 3-0 F 14-6-1
02/12/2009 8:00 PM vs. Tartan
02/14/2009 2:30 PM at Richfield
02/17/2009 7:30 PM vs. North St. Paul (Saint Paul)
02/21/2009 3:00 PM vs. Moorhead

I would rather have the bottom half of THIER schedule minus the players then the top half. Playing well at the start has helped them so far, now you lose those players in Nov. you are looking at a totally different team they don't have the confidence of beating Edina, WBL and Mahto would have been different. Now you are talking about a team that has a losing record vs winning record with some confidence.

Thats what I mean by "Soft" part of THIER schedule. Didn't say the teams in the second half are all soft even though 75% of them are.

cody53193 · Post by **cody53193** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:15 pm

Pioneers you are right about Tartan's starting goaile being injured. I don't believe that he is playing in tonights game. He injured his groin in the Mathomedi game Monday I believe.

With him being out Tartan has to rely on their back up who is pretty bad....

hs hockey fan · Post by **hs hockey fan** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:19 pm

cody53193 wrote:Pioneers you are right about Tartan's starting goaile being injured. I don't believe that he is playing in tonights game. He injured his groin in the Mathomedi game Monday I believe.

With him being out Tartan has to rely on their back up who is pretty bad....

Tartan won 4-2 with an en goal but it was a very good game to watch very physcial and it came down to defense with Zepeda for Hill and the core for Tartan.

thorhockey · Post by **thorhockey** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:21 pm

Tartan wins 4- 2

Hill (average team at best) has become part of Tartans "soft" part of their schedule

Tartan not even playing their "A" game but gets win with a couple minor miscues

Thayer played very well in net and comes in for injured Gierke to prove Tartan has depth in all areas of the game

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:34 pm

Does this win lock up the #1 seed for Tartan in section 4AA?

I know it locks up the CSC for STA

Pioneerprideguy · Post by **Pioneerprideguy** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:43 pm

Not a lot of intensity in this game at all. Hill just doesn't have anybody to finish. They are relying on young role players to step up & score & it just isn't happening. Both teams lack the high end skill player. Give Tartan credit, they made more plays than Hill and squeeked out a win against an average HM club. Lex will continue to try to push the right buttons and see if something clicks but his options seem rather limited at this point. They will have to outwork teams come section time & I just didn't see that type of effort tonight. It appears it may be WB's section to lose this year.

thorhockey · Post by **thorhockey** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:51 pm

Tartan's odds of getting to State for the third time in 5 years just took a big jump

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