Section 4AA 2009-2010 Outlook & Projections

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Who Will Win Section 4AA?

Cretin Derham Hall
1
1%
Hill Murray School
11
15%
MLPS Novas
0
No votes
N. St. Paul
0
No votes
Roseville
26
35%
St. Paul Blades
0
No votes
Stillwater
23
31%
Tartan
0
No votes
White Bear Lake
13
18%
 
Total votes: 74

hockeya1a
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Post by hockeya1a »

hockeyheaven wrote:
Hansonbrother wrote:
Homer wrote:Did anyone seen any games this past weekend?
boy am I curious to find out what happened in the WBL vs. Rosemount game :shock:

Not surprised to hear the score from Stillwater
Give Rosemount credit, nice team and they came to play… their new transfer goaltender didn’t hurt either. This girl from Lakeville was very sharp. But… then again WBL has picked up where they left off last year... What do they say…“if you don’t make a change…nothing changes”. Preventable penalties definitely contributed to the loss. Hate to keep expounding on it but when they play 5 on 5 they are as good as any team…however.
Case in point, last weekend in Duluth they were arguably the best team of a pretty nice field. The only difference was that you never had to play short handed…and with this team that makes all the difference

Have to be a little surprised by the Stillwater/Tonka score...huh?
It was a good game Stillwater owned the first period then tonka controled the rest they just could not find the back of net, neither goalie was real sharp first two periods. h2o's goalie did better in the 3 period to keep them alive. easily could have gone either way. lots of penalites some pretty lame calls. But good paced game none the less.
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Post by hockeyheaven »

Two top 5 teams... would have been fun to watch.
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Post by Melvin44 »

Hansonbrother wrote:
Homer wrote:Did anyone seen any games this past weekend?
boy am I curious to find out what happened in the WBL vs. Rosemount game :shock:

Not surprised to hear the score from Stillwater

WBL took to many DUMB, STUPID, CHEAP no need penalties looked alot like early last year. This needs to be corrected ASAP! I thought it wouldn't be a problem and now not to sure. Players MUST be held accountable. Ref's were a little iffy, but a good team has to overcome. All penalties against WBL were legit. Just felt they missed a few on RM.

Rosemount did come to play and had a nice PP (2 goals on about 8 chances including a 5-3).

I have faith in the coaches and it's very early.
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Post by Hansonbrother »

Melvin44 wrote:
Hansonbrother wrote:
Homer wrote:Did anyone seen any games this past weekend?
boy am I curious to find out what happened in the WBL vs. Rosemount game :shock:

Not surprised to hear the score from Stillwater

WBL took to many DUMB, STUPID, CHEAP no need penalties looked alot like early last year. This needs to be corrected ASAP! I thought it wouldn't be a problem and now not to sure. Players MUST be held accountable.

Rosemount did come to play and had a nice PP. Still felt WBL could have scored at least 6 goals. Players were shooting wide with 2 on 1's and 3 on 1's. Could have had breakaways if players were moving without puck. A lot of work needs to be done.

I have faith in the coaches and it's very early.
I hope so, you guys have a real challenge coming this Friday night!!
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Post by Bensonmum »

One award that I'll vote for the Bears is the toughest schedule in the state. Roseville and Stillwater back-to-back not once, but twice. Then throw in Blaine, HM, GRG and Cloquet. Brutal. They should definitely be toughened up by sections. Like beef jerky.
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Post by Homer »

Any predictions for the Hill-Murray vs. Stillwater game this Wednesday?
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Post by Just_Another_Fan »

Homer wrote:Any predictions for the Hill-Murray vs. Stillwater game this Wednesday?
Hill. I think this year is their year.
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Post by Homer »

I have a question for the Hill parents: Do you think Schaffhauser is just buying his time w/ the girls program, waiting to take over for Lechner on the boys side?
A friend mentioned this scenario to me when I mentioned my kid might go there. He had considered sending his kid to hill. Any thoughts?
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Post by joehockey »

Woodbury/East Ridge- 9
Robbinsdale Cooper- 0


Nice start for the new coop "South Washington County Royals" understand they lost 1-0 to Andover in a scrimmage. Interesting to see how this team evoles - they have a group of players and deep coaching staff who know and can teach the game and sounds like the bar on expectations has been raised.

SCORING SUMMARY:
First: W-Goff (Falconer, Sweeney), 11:04.
Second: W-Goff(Hammer, Moris), 9:29; W-Goff, 4:16, sh; W-Letsche (Fronek), 5:32; W-Jabobsen (Sweeney), 10:18.
Third: W-Falconer (Johnson, Letsche), 3:48; W-Moris (Weller, Jacobsen), 5:57; W-Weller, 8:10; W-Falconer (Greeley), 11:59, pp.
Saves: C-Burns 14-12-5--31, Sandhofer x-x-9--9; W-Taplin 2-3-1--6.

2009-10 SOUTH WASHINGTON COUNTY HOCKEY (G) STAFF
Stacy Anderson - Head Coach
Corbin Schmidt - Associate Head Coach
Tom Stumpf - Assistant Coach
Kristin Murr - JV Coach
Bill Halbrehder - Goalie Coach
Abby Kloss - Manager
Jill Pearson - Manager


2009-10 SOUTH WASHINGTON COUNTY HOCKEY (G) ROSTER
NUMBER NAME (FIRST LAST) GRADE POSITION HEIGHT WEIGHT
1 Katie Ahmann 9 G
2 Meriah Leach 11 D
3 Arianna Guanella 10 F
4 Taylor Harman 11 F
5 Emily Moris 11 F
6 Mary Sweeney 11 D
7 Clare Shaw 10 D
8 Kelsey Jarrett 10 D
9 Sydney Falconer 11 F
10 April Weller 11 F
11 Samantha Greeley 11 D
12 Krista Vierling 11 D
13 Meagan Larson 11 D
14 Taryn Cederstrom 11 F
15 Alexa Jacobsen 12 F
16 Brooke Marlow 11 D
17 Brianna Elsmore 10 F
18 Jess Krinke 10 F
19 Molly Burke 9 D
20 Katelyn Bergloff 9 D
21 Lauren Dwyer 9 F
23 Liz Fronek 12 D
24 Rachel Letsche 10 C
25 Erika Michaud 9 F
26 Stephanie Mohr 10 D
27 Kari Johnson 10 F
28 Krista Fankenberg 10 D
29 Cassie Goff 8 F
30 Kaelan Geisser 8 G
31 Jessica Wegleitner Taplin 12 G
34 Dani Griesgraber 9 F
36 Kayla Falconer 7 F
37 Jess Hammer 8 D
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Post by joehockey »

Homer wrote:I have a question for the Hill parents: Do you think Schaffhauser is just buying his time w/ the girls program, waiting to take over for Lechner on the boys side?
A friend mentioned this scenario to me when I mentioned my kid might go there. He had considered sending his kid to hill. Any thoughts?
As a 3 year HM parent with a daughter in the program I guess I would pass this along to your friend......HM is a hockey school there is a lot of pride on hertitage from the boys side and the girls side is building forwardng - 153 of 920 students have a hockey playing desire. On the boys side 110 kids who wanted play hockey over 90 actually went out. On the girls side it was +40 this year (these are girls with hockey playing background not kids recruited to fill out a roster as it was prior prior to Schafhauser) - most of the girls come from a Catholic School background. If a girl/family wants a Catholic value based top education for a top college and wants to maybe play past HS Hockey HM is a great choice.

Bill Schafhauser would be a candidate for the boys job but his brother is already an asst coach for the boys. Bill has built one of the best winning percentages in girls hockey in 2 years but his team have not yet been able to make State. He has put together an increasingly better staff and overall program each of his 3 season, plus they do a number of unique things with guest coaches (skating, shooting, motivation - Karen Bye, Scott Bjugstad, Diane Ness....) different from any other program I know. This season will be a real test of the coaching staff starting Wednesday night vs. Stillwater.

I would guess Lechner will continue on the boys side for seasons to come - once he steps down there are a number of top HM grads and non-grads who would be considered. Same on the girls side if the job came open 1) Many would apply 2) A top candidate would be named.

Since you enroll and pay to go to HM ask those questions on the education, coaching and the program. And ask the parents in the program presently it doesn't fit eveyone and not everyone will make the team so be aware and go there first to get a great education.

2009-10 HILL-MURRAY HOCKEY (G) ROSTER
NUMBER NAME (FIRST LAST) GRADE POSITION HEIGHT WEIGHT
Number Player Name Position Grade
2 Jac Ley D 12 V - Stillwater
4 Catie Dolan D 12 V - Highland
9 Maggie McDowell F 12 V - Woodbury
10 Melissa Doyle F 12 V - White Bear
12 Maggie Pendleton D 12 V - Woodbury

1 Ali McKeever G 11 V - Woodbury
5 Megan Pellino F 11 V - Cottage Grove
6 Margo Lund F 11 V - Highland
19 Saydie Long F 11 V - Stillwater
20 Marissa Brandt F 11 V - White Bear
30 Erin Maguire G 11 V - White Bear
19 Taylor Zarembinski F 11 JV - White Bear
31 Cassie Alfveby G 11 JV - Cottage Grove
4 Amanda Furlong F 11 JV - Woodbury(?)

3 Mikayla Curtis D 10 V - Stillwater
8 Natalie Hager F 10 V - Woodbury
14 Sydney Fabian F 10 V - Woodbury
15 Tory Heller F 10 V - Cottage Grove
16 Hannah Brandt F 10 V - White Bear
17 Bailey Link D 10 V - Hudson
21 Jenny Magill D 10 V - Stillwater
6 Bridget Nelson D 10 JV - NSP
11 Brooke Freeberg F 10 JV - Roseville

11 Hanna Gavic F 9 V - Hudson
2 Brittney Cusick F 9 JV - ?
7 Grace Dwyer D 9 JV - Woodbury
15 Eva Adams F 9 JV - ?
16 Lauren Cotroneo F 9 JV - Woodbury
20 Brooklyn Tate D 9 JV - White Bear
22 Paige Freeberg F 9 JV - Roseville

7 Sarah Bobrowski F 8 V - New Richmond
3 Megan Toninato F 8 JV - Woodbury
5 Kailee Thompson F 8 JV - ?
8 Samantha Boyer D 8 JV - ?
10 Nicole Stanton D 8 JV - Woodbury

14 Allison Lorfeld D 7 JV - ?
17 Samantha Jermusek F 7 JV - ?
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Wood/ER Coop

Post by missingthenstars »

Interesting observation Joe, My daughter played for the last coaching regime and I thought the bar was set pretty high. Strange things happen when you start playing "stronger" teams than Cooper and parents and players start to think they know more than the coaches. Let's wait and watch awhile to see if the "deep" coaching staff is the answer.
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Re: Wood/ER Coop

Post by joehockey »

missingthenstars wrote:Interesting observation Joe, My daughter played for the last coaching regime and I thought the bar was set pretty high. Strange things happen when you start playing "stronger" teams than Cooper and parents and players start to think they know more than the coaches. Let's wait and watch awhile to see if the "deep" coaching staff is the answer.
You are probably more right than I know. Coach Shock and coaches always meant well. Agreed Cooper is not the SEC! Good luck to your daughter and the team I hope they enjoy success and inspire more young girls to join the game. It appears CG and WBY Associations are both working hard to grow and upgrade thier girls programs.
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Post by joehockey »

Homer wrote:Any predictions for the Hill-Murray vs. Stillwater game this Wednesday?
Stillwater is ranked #1 and 3-0 off to a great start ave. 5 G and only 1.33 GA/game.

vs. #5 Minnetonka W 5-3
vs. #20 Duluth W 5-0
vs. #15 C-E-C W 5-1

Hill Murray has not yet even played a game so it likely will be very tough to compete.
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Post by joehockey »

#1 Stillwater moves to 4-0 with 3-2 win over Forest Lake

http://www.minnesotasportsonline.com/te ... meid=36701


First: F-Solheid, 11:08; S-King, 16:02.
Second: S-Philipczyk (Cartony, King), 3:22, pp; S-Turi (Cartony), 4:20.
Third: F-Nelson, 0:48.
Saves: S-Sayczck 3-9-10--22; F-Anderson 4-6-6--16
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Post by Stillh2ofan »

Hannah Dickman was the goalie for Stillwater.
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Post by joehockey »

Stillh2ofan wrote:Hannah Dickman was the goalie for Stillwater.
Wow surprise! Is Sobczak hurt?
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Post by Stillh2ofan »

joehockey wrote:
Stillh2ofan wrote:Hannah Dickman was the goalie for Stillwater.
Wow surprise! Is Sobczak hurt?

Nope.
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Post by hockeya1a »

Stillh2ofan wrote:
joehockey wrote:
Stillh2ofan wrote:Hannah Dickman was the goalie for Stillwater.
Wow surprise! Is Sobczak hurt?

Nope.
So did FL out play H2O looks like it by the shots or was it pretty close?
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Post by joehockey »

Hill Murray 5 Stillwater 2

Huge crowd with many teams in attendance to watch the game.
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Post by Oilers08 »

joehockey wrote:Hill Murray 5 Stillwater 2

Huge crowd with many teams in attendance to watch the game.
Joe, Joe, details, details! This was a big game give us some insight. Goalies? Goals? Play?
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Post by iceage »

Oilers08 wrote:
joehockey wrote:Hill Murray 5 Stillwater 2

Huge crowd with many teams in attendance to watch the game.
Joe, Joe, details, details! This was a big game give us some insight. Goalies? Goals? Play?
All HM goals scored by first line (2 each by the Brandt sisters and one by Doyle). Stillwater goals by King and Reiter. McKeever and Sobczak with 22 saves each. Last HM goal was an open netter. One interesting point --- HM played four lines the entire game. Game had good pace.
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Post by joehockey »

Oilers08 wrote:
joehockey wrote:Hill Murray 5 Stillwater 2

Huge crowd with many teams in attendance to watch the game.
Joe, Joe, details, details! This was a big game give us some insight. Goalies? Goals? Play?
Iceage captured it.

http://www.minnesotasportsonline.com/ga ... meid=34169

Stillwater has 11 seniors - HM played 11 girls playing thier first Varsity game at Hill. HM first line of Brandt-Brandt-Doyle did scoring for Pioneers - first was a great power play tip in by Hannah Brandt. The next three were third rebound scamble goals by them. Last was open net goal by Marissa Brandt. The second line of Fabian-McDowell-Lund generated maybe half of HM shots and looked very good despite no goals - they will score. Stillwater has many offensive threats - King, Tuuri, Cartoney were everywhere and the D pinched hard all night to keep in the zone. HM's McKeever in goal gave up a kind of odd rush snipe by King. The other was a set up in the zone on a rebound where she might have been screened - she was outstanding in net for HM. The 4 line concept by HM kept the pace high (yes they rolled 4 lines 6 D all night). Stillwater after playing Forest Lake on Tuesday night played very strong through out the game and were coming on strong until taking a penalty with 3:24 to go. Many great players in this game but Hannah Brandt again stood out her ability to see the ice, move the puck and create time and space is incredible to watch.

Last year HM won the first meeting - but Stillwater won the second and the State Tournament - so great hockey as you would expect. The fun thing was the crowd was almost capacity the Stillwater side was Stillwater students and residents. The Hill Murray side had lots of students and parents - but it looked like lots of players from Tartan, WB, Roseville, NSP, Edina were on the HM side. Great atmosphere and game on the night before Thanksgiving! It was a great game 1-1 after 1st, then 3-2 end of 2 then 5-2 final

We will find out if this was a fluke or sign of things to come for HM the play #10 WB Saturday, #4 Edina Tuesday and then travel ups to play Roseau and Warroad next weekend.

SCORING SUMMARY:
First: H-H. Brandt (Doyle, Pendleton), 8:10, pp; S-King (Tuuri, Johnston), 11:17.
Second: H-M. Brandt (Doyle, H. Brandt), :15; H-Link (H. Brandt, M. Brandt), 11:26; S-Rieter, 12:49.
Third: H-H. Brandt (Doyle, Pendleton), 6:20; H-M. Brandt (Doyle, H. Brandt), 16:29, en.
Goalie Saves: H-McKeever 9-6-7--22; S-Sobczak 11-5-6--22.
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Post by hockeywild7 »

Stillwater does not have 11 seniors playing on their varsity. Not sure where you get that information from. Last night they had 6 seniors playing. They are missing one from an injury also.
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Post by joehockey »

hockeywild7 wrote:Stillwater does not have 11 seniors playing on their varsity. Not sure where you get that information from. Last night they had 6 seniors playing. They are missing one from an injury also.
It was in the 4 color program handed out at the ticket window including pictures - sorry for the error. Stillwater has a great team.
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Post by SECoach »

Very good hockey game. Hill Murray did not roll 4 lines. 1st and 2nd were played very heavily with 3rd and 4th mixed in occasionally. Brandt line on the ice ALOT. Brandt can handle all the ice time they can give her but may hurt them late in the season relying on 1-2 lines. Stillwater and Roseville both tend to play 3 lines all season long.
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