Class A Final: Breck vs Hermantown

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Who wins and by how many?

Poll ended at Sun Mar 14, 2010 8:17 pm

Breck by 3+
6
23%
Breck by 2
5
19%
Breck by 1
1
4%
Hermantown by 1
5
19%
Hermantown by 2
3
12%
Hermantown by 2
3
12%
Hermantown by 3+
3
12%
 
Total votes: 26

mj79
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Post by mj79 »

headinjury wrote:We lost to HT in a very good game! I was so impressed with the fans and HT team until today! We were trying to cheer our team to a 3rd place victory when your classless fans invaded our section and started cheering for Warroad and not having any respect walking down the isles making it diffucult for us to see our team. After you beat us in a very great game I spoke with a HT fan aftert the game and I said I really hope you guys beat Breck, but after the game today I prayed that Breck would beat you and they did thank God. You should be ashamed how rude your fans were. I looked over at the opposing side and did not see ONE breck fan looking for a seat. They have class as you all do not. So go home in your flannel shirts and enjoy your loss you bunch of classless fans! And that 300 pound guy that got kicked out with his 7-8 year old kid I hope he goes to jail for being such a jerk!!!!

LOLOL


Your the definition of hypocracy ..


You fail


now


gtfo
ihatebenders2011
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Why would Breck move up a class?

Post by ihatebenders2011 »

To all of you who think that some of the class A private schools should move up a class: there is no reason for it. Ok so Breck won back to back state championships...they had a good grade. Breck had just over 40 players try out this year (barely enough for two full teams). If Breck moved up a class they would be competing with schools that get 60-80 kids trying out. How would this be fair? In addition, I don't see how Breck was not classy. Yes, the celebrated, just like every other team who has ever won a state tournament...everyone chill out, no need to freak out because your team lost.
mj79
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Re: Why would Breck move up a class?

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ihatebenders2011 wrote:To all of you who think that some of the class A private schools should move up a class: there is no reason for it. Ok so Breck won back to back state championships...they had a good grade. Breck had just over 40 players try out this year (barely enough for two full teams). If Breck moved up a class they would be competing with schools that get 60-80 kids trying out. How would this be fair? In addition, I don't see how Breck was not classy. Yes, the celebrated, just like every other team who has ever won a state tournament...everyone chill out, no need to freak out because your team lost.

and your a troll.. You made an account to post this?? there are many discussions about this, post in there if you want to have another useless rant.. Nobody is "complaining" cuz their team lost, its because the kid in the interview conducted himself as a cocky little ............, and this wasnt the first "classless" incident breck has had. So maybe its time you chill out and quit assuming what others are not even thinking
bronco2828
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Re: Why would Breck move up a class?

Post by bronco2828 »

ihatebenders2011 wrote:To all of you who think that some of the class A private schools should move up a class: there is no reason for it. Ok so Breck won back to back state championships...they had a good grade. Breck had just over 40 players try out this year (barely enough for two full teams). If Breck moved up a class they would be competing with schools that get 60-80 kids trying out. How would this be fair? In addition, I don't see how Breck was not classy. Yes, the celebrated, just like every other team who has ever won a state tournament...everyone chill out, no need to freak out because your team lost.
The Tourney is broke and needs to be fixed. One class one tourney. Then when the spoiled rich private school kids win/loose no disputing. Or the cities has a tourney and the out state has one, then the winner of the the two meet up for an overall Minnesota champion. Whatever but something needs to change.
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Post by keepyourheadup »

It is Breck's choice to play a or aa. The number of kids trying out is a poor arguement, the 40 they have to pick from is far different than the 40 to choose from at most other schools. I have no bone to pick with Breck but the fact that they have so many quality players from such a small group trying out is no coincidence. I'm sure their are a number of kids at Breck that don't try out simply because they know the numbers and don't bother. Congrats, and I'm sure they'll be back with another powerhouse before to long.
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Re: Why would Breck move up a class?

Post by dirtracing17 »

bronco2828 wrote:
ihatebenders2011 wrote:To all of you who think that some of the class A private schools should move up a class: there is no reason for it. Ok so Breck won back to back state championships...they had a good grade. Breck had just over 40 players try out this year (barely enough for two full teams). If Breck moved up a class they would be competing with schools that get 60-80 kids trying out. How would this be fair? In addition, I don't see how Breck was not classy. Yes, the celebrated, just like every other team who has ever won a state tournament...everyone chill out, no need to freak out because your team lost.
The Tourney is broke and needs to be fixed. One class one tourney. Then when the spoiled rich private school kids win/loose no disputing. Or the cities has a tourney and the out state has one, then the winner of the the two meet up for an overall Minnesota champion. Whatever but something needs to change.
the out state idea sounds good, after all, the northern teams dont have the enrollment and other areas to pick kids from.
mj79
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Post by mj79 »

yea, I like the Cities/north format. Then they meet for a MN champion.. its been 28 yrs or so.. Time for a change.. Will it happen soon, nnnnope ..

:(
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Re: Why would Breck move up a class?

Post by nickmon3 »

bronco2828 wrote:
ihatebenders2011 wrote:To all of you who think that some of the class A private schools should move up a class: there is no reason for it. Ok so Breck won back to back state championships...they had a good grade. Breck had just over 40 players try out this year (barely enough for two full teams). If Breck moved up a class they would be competing with schools that get 60-80 kids trying out. How would this be fair? In addition, I don't see how Breck was not classy. Yes, the celebrated, just like every other team who has ever won a state tournament...everyone chill out, no need to freak out because your team lost.
The Tourney is broke and needs to be fixed. One class one tourney. Then when the spoiled rich private school kids win/loose no disputing. Or the cities has a tourney and the out state has one, then the winner of the the two meet up for an overall Minnesota champion. Whatever but something needs to change.
That would be nice, but it will never happen. They would have to change sections, and exactly where do you draw the line between a city team and out state team?
The fighting team has a hockey problem
mj79
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Post by mj79 »

everyone SOUTH of Hinckley VS everyone NORTH of Hinckley??
blueline1
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Re: Why would Breck move up a class?

Post by blueline1 »

ihatebenders2011 wrote:To all of you who think that some of the class A private schools should move up a class: there is no reason for it. Ok so Breck won back to back state championships...they had a good grade. Breck had just over 40 players try out this year (barely enough for two full teams). If Breck moved up a class they would be competing with schools that get 60-80 kids trying out. How would this be fair? In addition, I don't see how Breck was not classy. Yes, the celebrated, just like every other team who has ever won a state tournament...everyone chill out, no need to freak out because your team lost.
Are you kidding me? THere are plenty of out-state schools who have to play AA that would be thrilled to have 40 kids to choose from. You city people don't get, not to mention 40 RECRUITED kids. Quit whinig. Let's take the kids within your school boundaries and see what you got- like Hermantown. I would like to know how many kids they had try-out this year? Let's hear it Hermantown? I'm guessing it's not 48 Like poor Breck[/i]
bronco2828
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Re: Why would Breck move up a class?

Post by bronco2828 »

nickmon3 wrote:
bronco2828 wrote:
ihatebenders2011 wrote:To all of you who think that some of the class A private schools should move up a class: there is no reason for it. Ok so Breck won back to back state championships...they had a good grade. Breck had just over 40 players try out this year (barely enough for two full teams). If Breck moved up a class they would be competing with schools that get 60-80 kids trying out. How would this be fair? In addition, I don't see how Breck was not classy. Yes, the celebrated, just like every other team who has ever won a state tournament...everyone chill out, no need to freak out because your team lost.
The Tourney is broke and needs to be fixed. One class one tourney. Then when the spoiled rich private school kids win/loose no disputing. Or the cities has a tourney and the out state has one, then the winner of the the two meet up for an overall Minnesota champion. Whatever but something needs to change.
That would be nice, but it will never happen. They would have to change sections, and exactly where do you draw the line between a city team and out state team?
All right all the single A section winners play the AA section winners. Work with me here Nicmon. Besides we all know the MSHSL won't make the right decision anyway, if they ever make one.
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Post by nickmon3 »

mj79 wrote:everyone SOUTH of Hinckley VS everyone NORTH of Hinckley??
Dude i just went on google maps and figured out the perfect boundary line
The fighting team has a hockey problem
ihatebenders2011
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Re: Why would Breck move up a class?

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blueline1 wrote:
ihatebenders2011 wrote:To all of you who think that some of the class A private schools should move up a class: there is no reason for it. Ok so Breck won back to back state championships...they had a good grade. Breck had just over 40 players try out this year (barely enough for two full teams). If Breck moved up a class they would be competing with schools that get 60-80 kids trying out. How would this be fair? In addition, I don't see how Breck was not classy. Yes, the celebrated, just like every other team who has ever won a state tournament...everyone chill out, no need to freak out because your team lost.
Are you kidding me? THere are plenty of out-state schools who have to play AA that would be thrilled to have 40 kids to choose from. You city people don't get, not to mention 40 RECRUITED kids. Quit whinig. Let's take the kids within your school boundaries and see what you got- like Hermantown. I would like to know how many kids they had try-out this year? Let's hear it Hermantown? I'm guessing it's not 48 Like poor Breck[/i]
Well considering that Breck had 3 kids that had never played hockey before...i guess not all of them were recruited.
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Post by Northhcky »

Pick your heads up boys from Hermantown!! You played a great season and a great tourney!! And IMO you outplayed Breck today. It's a game of lucky and sometimes unlucky bounces, sometimes they go your way and sometimes not. Today they didn't. But congratulations and remember....you are the 2010 PUBLIC SCHOOL CLASS A STATE CHAMPIONS!!!
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Post by saucepass »

Fluky goal??? A kid drives the puck hard to the net and it goes in??
Hermantown Lost....deal! Come back next year and win it and quit whining! It will be Mahtomedi or St. Thomas winning it next year. :arrow: :roll:

What was it the kid said in the interview that makes him cocky? I didn't hear the interview.

For all of the people ripping on "rich kids" and "recruits"....that doesn't make sense. If they are recruits, then they probably don't have money.

The Hermantown trap was a good game plan. If they played Breck without a trap, it is a totally different game.
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Post by warriors41 »

saucepass wrote:Fluky goal??? A kid drives the puck hard to the net and it goes in??
Hermantown Lost....deal! Come back next year and win it and quit whining! It will be Mahtomedi or St. Thomas winning it next year. :arrow: :roll:

What was it the kid said in the interview that makes him cocky? I didn't hear the interview.

For all of the people ripping on "rich kids" and "recruits"....that doesn't make sense. If they are recruits, then they probably don't have money.

The Hermantown trap was a good game plan. If they played Breck without a trap, it is a totally different game.
Yeah it was good that the kid drove to the net but the opposite side defenseman did the right thing with a poke check and when the puck went to the air it went off the Mustang's glove and into the net. Its not as if he planned it that way. He didn't even shoot the puck off his stick. Therefore, FLUKE.
Congrats to Hermantown on being the better team today. The scoreboard doesn't tell the whole story, just the story everyone will read.
Also, congrats to the Mustangs, I guess. Even though they won back to back titles and are a private school I don't think they should be forced to play AA hockey. Its always good to have those teams to hate in each class, and its easy to hate private schools so they should stay put. They are like the Yankees.
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Re: Why would Breck move up a class?

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bronco2828 wrote:
ihatebenders2011 wrote:To all of you who think that some of the class A private schools should move up a class: there is no reason for it. Ok so Breck won back to back state championships...they had a good grade. Breck had just over 40 players try out this year (barely enough for two full teams). If Breck moved up a class they would be competing with schools that get 60-80 kids trying out. How would this be fair? In addition, I don't see how Breck was not classy. Yes, the celebrated, just like every other team who has ever won a state tournament...everyone chill out, no need to freak out because your team lost.
The Tourney is broke and needs to be fixed. One class one tourney. Then when the spoiled rich private school kids win/loose no disputing. Or the cities has a tourney and the out state has one, then the winner of the the two meet up for an overall Minnesota champion. Whatever but something needs to change.
why would they change anything when they get 19,000 people at the games and tons of people watching on t.v? The MSHL doesn't care about random online rantings,

And your right, its awful when the rich spoiled kids from Breck win the championship, at least in AA the struggling economies of Edina and Minnetonka were represented.

:roll:
Imagine a world...with no Wisconsin
bronco2828
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Re: Why would Breck move up a class?

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DotaDangler wrote:
bronco2828 wrote:
ihatebenders2011 wrote:To all of you who think that some of the class A private schools should move up a class: there is no reason for it. Ok so Breck won back to back state championships...they had a good grade. Breck had just over 40 players try out this year (barely enough for two full teams). If Breck moved up a class they would be competing with schools that get 60-80 kids trying out. How would this be fair? In addition, I don't see how Breck was not classy. Yes, the celebrated, just like every other team who has ever won a state tournament...everyone chill out, no need to freak out because your team lost.
The Tourney is broke and needs to be fixed. One class one tourney. Then when the spoiled rich private school kids win/loose no disputing. Or the cities has a tourney and the out state has one, then the winner of the the two meet up for an overall Minnesota champion. Whatever but something needs to change.
why would they change anything when they get 19,000 people at the games and tons of people watching on t.v? The MSHL doesn't care about random online rantings,

And your right, its awful when the rich spoiled kids from Breck win the championship, at least in AA the struggling economies of Edina and Minnetonka were represented.

:roll:
So tons of revenue for the MSHSL and TV Stations makes it a good tournament for the Fans and Teams. Must be a businessman.
Red Ice
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Post by Red Ice »

Change the tourney because it could be bigger and better.

1 class.
16 team.
8 section champs seeded 1-8.
8 section runner-ups vs next 8 best teams in a 1 game and in contest.
Seed these teams 9-16.
1 great and well represented tourney for 1 champ.

Small schools, large schools and private schools all welcome!!
ryno44
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Re: Why would Breck move up a class?

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blueline1 wrote:
ihatebenders2011 wrote:To all of you who think that some of the class A private schools should move up a class: there is no reason for it. Ok so Breck won back to back state championships...they had a good grade. Breck had just over 40 players try out this year (barely enough for two full teams). If Breck moved up a class they would be competing with schools that get 60-80 kids trying out. How would this be fair? In addition, I don't see how Breck was not classy. Yes, the celebrated, just like every other team who has ever won a state tournament...everyone chill out, no need to freak out because your team lost.
Are you kidding me? THere are plenty of out-state schools who have to play AA that would be thrilled to have 40 kids to choose from. You city people don't get, not to mention 40 RECRUITED kids. Quit whinig. Let's take the kids within your school boundaries and see what you got- like Hermantown. I would like to know how many kids they had try-out this year? Let's hear it Hermantown? I'm guessing it's not 48 Like poor Breck[/i]
I bet Hermantown's roster has kids from outside of the city line. Next year with Duluth combining to 2 schools. I bet some kids will go to Hermantown, Marshall and East..

So tell me, is every player on that Hermantown team from Hermantown. Or are they from Proctor or Duluth?
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Re: Why would Breck move up a class?

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ryno44 wrote:
blueline1 wrote:
ihatebenders2011 wrote:To all of you who think that some of the class A private schools should move up a class: there is no reason for it. Ok so Breck won back to back state championships...they had a good grade. Breck had just over 40 players try out this year (barely enough for two full teams). If Breck moved up a class they would be competing with schools that get 60-80 kids trying out. How would this be fair? In addition, I don't see how Breck was not classy. Yes, the celebrated, just like every other team who has ever won a state tournament...everyone chill out, no need to freak out because your team lost.
Are you kidding me? THere are plenty of out-state schools who have to play AA that would be thrilled to have 40 kids to choose from. You city people don't get, not to mention 40 RECRUITED kids. Quit whinig. Let's take the kids within your school boundaries and see what you got- like Hermantown. I would like to know how many kids they had try-out this year? Let's hear it Hermantown? I'm guessing it's not 48 Like poor Breck[/i]
I bet Hermantown's roster has kids from outside of the city line. Next year with Duluth combining to 2 schools. I bet some kids will go to Hermantown, Marshall and East..

So tell me, is every player on that Hermantown team from Hermantown. Or are they from Proctor or Duluth?
Exactly. Everyone always just accuses the private schools of recruiting, but some public schools are just as bad.
The fighting team has a hockey problem
Northhcky
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Re: Why would Breck move up a class?

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nickmon3 wrote:
ryno44 wrote:
blueline1 wrote: Are you kidding me? THere are plenty of out-state schools who have to play AA that would be thrilled to have 40 kids to choose from. You city people don't get, not to mention 40 RECRUITED kids. Quit whinig. Let's take the kids within your school boundaries and see what you got- like Hermantown. I would like to know how many kids they had try-out this year? Let's hear it Hermantown? I'm guessing it's not 48 Like poor Breck[/i]
I bet Hermantown's roster has kids from outside of the city line. Next year with Duluth combining to 2 schools. I bet some kids will go to Hermantown, Marshall and East..

So tell me, is every player on that Hermantown team from Hermantown. Or are they from Proctor or Duluth?
Exactly. Everyone always just accuses the private schools of recruiting, but some public schools are just as bad.
EVERY PLAYER on the Hermantown team lives in Hermantown!! PERIOD!!
Most have played together since mini-mites. Only one that comes to mind that hasn't played ALL of his youth hockey there is Jared Thomas. His family moved there when he was either a squirt or a pee-wee. And there is no open enrollment in Hermantown at the HS level. It is over capacity now.
Same is true for the team that went undefeated and won state in 07. They all played there since mites with the exception of the goalie Hardy. His family moved to Hermantown from Colorado when he was a Bantam.
Hemantowns success has come with homegrown talent and they are probably the only hockey team from the area that hasn't lost a single player to Marshall. Says alot for the program. They might not get a chance to play till thay are Sr's and they stay anyway.
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