2000 MACHINE VS 2000 BLADES

HockeyDad41 · Post by **HockeyDad41** » Sat Jun 11, 2011 2:02 pm

buttend wrote:
HockeyDad41 wrote:I was just looking at the 2000 Super Elite Division for the NAC and noticed that these two teams will not play each other in pool play. Is there some sort of unwritten rule that the only way these teams will meet is in post pool play?
I will assume you are talking about the Machine and Blades. I highly doubt these 2 MN teams really want to spend $1900, travel 6 hours, reserve a hotel for 4 days to play each other in pool play. These teams , egos aside, could play each other once a week all Spring and Fall and really improve each others competitive play. When going to the "Subway" you want to play the Vancouver teams, Calgary teams, Saskatoon teams, Manitoba teams..etc not your local MN teams.

So you are saying there is some kind of unwritten rule then? The tourney organizers recognize the proximity of the teams and then don't put them in pool play together? I always thought that when going to any tournament, canadian or otherwise you want to play the best competition, seems like where you are from shouldn't matter, but I guess it does. Thanks.

Quasar · Post by **Quasar** » Sat Jun 11, 2011 2:41 pm

HockeyDad41 wrote:
buttend wrote:
HockeyDad41 wrote:I was just looking at the 2000 Super Elite Division for the NAC and noticed that these two teams will not play each other in pool play. Is there some sort of unwritten rule that the only way these teams will meet is in post pool play?
I will assume you are talking about the Machine and Blades. I highly doubt these 2 MN teams really want to spend $1900, travel 6 hours, reserve a hotel for 4 days to play each other in pool play. These teams , egos aside, could play each other once a week all Spring and Fall and really improve each others competitive play. When going to the "Subway" you want to play the Vancouver teams, Calgary teams, Saskatoon teams, Manitoba teams..etc not your local MN teams.
So you are saying there is some kind of unwritten rule then? The tourney organizers recognize the proximity of the teams and then don't put them in pool play together? I always thought that when going to any tournament, canadian or otherwise you want to play the best competition, seems like where you are from shouldn't matter, but I guess it does. Thanks.

There are no rules, written or otherwise for summer hockey.
B.E. is right. If you look at the brackets I don't think you will see the Canadians knocking out their best teams either...Think about. Makes for a much better tournament.

stonehands · Post by **stonehands** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:26 pm

Game on August 25th in Caribou Cup

MnMade-4-Life · Post by **MnMade-4-Life** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:43 pm

stonehands wrote:Game on August 25th in Caribou Cup

http://assets.ngin.com/attachments/docu ... sAug8b.pdf

I'm assuming only the 2000 level counts ...

Shortsidegoal · Post by **Shortsidegoal** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:12 pm

Well here we are.

It's been a long road to get to this match up.

Will the well oiled freight train "MACHINE" be as fine tuned for tomorrow's match up, hitting on all cylinders.

Or will the "BLADES" come to the match up slicing, and dicing the compitition.

Tune in tomorrow at Minnesota Made @ 4:45 pm. One thing is for sure, this will be the game of the year for the 2000 Elite level.

Good luck to all the kids!

scoreandscoreoften · Post by **scoreandscoreoften** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:30 pm

Shortsidegoal wrote:Well here we are.

It's been a long road to get to this match up.

Will the well oiled freight train "MACHINE" be as fine tuned for tomorrow's match up, hitting on all cylinders.

Or will the "BLADES" come to the match up slicing, and dicing the compitition.

Tune in tomorrow at Minnesota Made @ 4:45 pm. One thing is for sure, this will be the game of the year for the 2000 Elite level.

Good luck to all the kids!

One side note! This will be the Blades second game of the day and the Machine's first.

HockeyDad41 · Post by **HockeyDad41** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:17 pm

Warming up the excuses?

AlterEagle · Post by **AlterEagle** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:44 pm

Looks like the Icemen's stud is now playing for the Blades. That should make things even more interesting.....

2112 · Post by **2112** » Fri Aug 26, 2011 8:44 am

Its called the Blades developement model!

hockey59 · Post by **hockey59** » Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:18 am

MnMade-4-Life wrote:
stonehands wrote:Game on August 25th in Caribou Cup
http://assets.ngin.com/attachments/docu ... sAug8b.pdf

I'm assuming only the 2000 level counts ...

I think the 1998 level will be the most entertaining to watch.

HockeyDad41 · Post by **HockeyDad41** » Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:36 am

2112 wrote:Its called the Blades developement model!

Is that where the kid skates in one tournament with them and after he makes the NHL they list him on their website as one of their own?

Shinbone_News · Post by **Shinbone_News** » Fri Aug 26, 2011 11:04 am

I will volunteer to be a totally neutral observer. So neutral, in fact, that I have no idea who these kids are nor who their coaches are, and I recognize very few former NHLers in street clothes (though their trophy wives often give them away). I have been to MN Made once, and it was after a couple of margaritas.

Looking forward to a fun game to watch, good luck to both sides in all of their games.

forreal · Post by **forreal** » Fri Aug 26, 2011 11:59 am

HockeyDad41 wrote:
2112 wrote:Its called the Blades developement model!
Is that where the kid skates in one tournament with them and after he makes the NHL they list him on their website as one of their own?

I believe the player being talked about has played for the blades in all tournaments but the 1st and practices with the team as well. Not sure why he officially ended things with the icemen but give the kid a break he's 10 or 11. I'm not suggesting that leaving a team in season is good, but each situation has it's own reasoning and with out knowing the whole story I am hesitant to judge.

Goodluck to both teams tonight. Hopefully the kids will have fun and appreciate the extra attention. Sounds like it's gonna be packed.

Edgeless · Post by **Edgeless** » Fri Aug 26, 2011 1:32 pm

Well I'm sure his 10-11 year old ex teammates would love to give him a break as the Icemen got pounded 9-2 against a solid MN Edge team in their first Caribou game.

snyper12 · Post by **snyper12** » Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:35 pm

Edgeless wrote:Well I'm sure his 10-11 year old ex teammates would love to give him a break as the Icemen got pounded 9-2 against a solid MN Edge team in their first Caribou game.

So solid they got pounded by the Blades?

Any team taking on a player to play who has "quit" another team - classless. Wrong lesson being taught here IMO by family and org. At least let the smoke clear whatever the issue was for the sake of the other kids. What other sports allow something like this? What kind of monster is AAA invite hockey?

forreal · Post by **forreal** » Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:46 pm

snyper12 wrote:
Edgeless wrote:Well I'm sure his 10-11 year old ex teammates would love to give him a break as the Icemen got pounded 9-2 against a solid MN Edge team in their first Caribou game.
So solid they got pounded by the Blades?

Any team taking on a player to play who has "quit" another team - classless. Wrong lesson being taught here IMO by family and org. At least let the smoke clear whatever the issue was for the sake of the other kids. What other sports allow something like this? What kind of monster is AAA invite hockey?

I heard he played both all year and had to pick for this tournament. Maybe I'm wrong.

Shinbone_News · Post by **Shinbone_News** » Fri Aug 26, 2011 7:00 pm

Neutral observer sez: Machine pounded the Blades 3-0. Not even a close match. Blades were in desperation mode the whole game, out shot probably 30 - 10, never had a clean break out, lots of dump and chase.

Game got chippy the last period, lots of hitting both ways. I'm sure this crew will tar and feather me for saying it, but it seems to me these kids made a good case for the new USAH rule. At least one player left the game with a serious injury, and there were at least two other incidents requiring the EMT out on the ice. All a part of the game???

ThePuckStopsHere · Post by **ThePuckStopsHere** » Sat Aug 27, 2011 7:58 am

Shortsidegoal wrote:Well here we are.

It's been a long road to get to this match up.

Will the well oiled freight train "MACHINE" be as fine tuned for tomorrow's match up, hitting on all cylinders.

Or will the "BLADES" come to the match up slicing, and dicing the compitition.

Tune in tomorrow at Minnesota Made @ 4:45 pm. One thing is for sure, this will be the game of the year for the 2000 Elite level.

Good luck to all the kids!

Well here we are: The day after the big macthup. Did it live up to the billing?

How was the atmosphere, I bet there were more Ego's bursting then a good program of Beverly Hills Housewives.

I love your quote "One thing is for sure, this will be the game of the year for the 2000 Elite level" Wow, really the game of the year??

Stop the insanity or should I say ARROGANCE

MrBoDangles · Post by **MrBoDangles** » Sat Aug 27, 2011 11:13 pm

Shinbone_News wrote:Neutral observer sez: Machine pounded the Blades 3-0. Not even a close match. Blades were in desperation mode the whole game, out shot probably 30 - 10, never had a clean break out, lots of dump and chase.

Game got chippy the last period, lots of hitting both ways. I'm sure this crew will tar and feather me for saying it, but it seems to me these kids made a good case for the new USAH rule. At least one player left the game with a serious injury, and there were at least two other incidents requiring the EMT out on the ice. All a part of the game???

Look for the Blades to keep their crown.

snyper12 · Post by **snyper12** » Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:13 am

MrBoDangles wrote:
Shinbone_News wrote:Neutral observer sez: Machine pounded the Blades 3-0. Not even a close match. Blades were in desperation mode the whole game, out shot probably 30 - 10, never had a clean break out, lots of dump and chase.

Game got chippy the last period, lots of hitting both ways. I'm sure this crew will tar and feather me for saying it, but it seems to me these kids made a good case for the new USAH rule. At least one player left the game with a serious injury, and there were at least two other incidents requiring the EMT out on the ice. All a part of the game???
Look for the Blades to keep their crown.

Seriously the Blades have zero chance. 2 players against a MACHINE. They had to be very lucky to stay w/in 3 the first time.

HockeyDad41 · Post by **HockeyDad41** » Sun Aug 28, 2011 1:46 pm

MrBoDangles wrote:
Shinbone_News wrote:Neutral observer sez: Machine pounded the Blades 3-0. Not even a close match. Blades were in desperation mode the whole game, out shot probably 30 - 10, never had a clean break out, lots of dump and chase.

Game got chippy the last period, lots of hitting both ways. I'm sure this crew will tar and feather me for saying it, but it seems to me these kids made a good case for the new USAH rule. At least one player left the game with a serious injury, and there were at least two other incidents requiring the EMT out on the ice. All a part of the game???
Look for the Blades to keep their crown.

betcha a cup "o" joe they don't.

MrBoDangles · Post by **MrBoDangles** » Sun Aug 28, 2011 8:53 pm

HockeyDad41 wrote:
MrBoDangles wrote:
Shinbone_News wrote:Neutral observer sez: Machine pounded the Blades 3-0. Not even a close match. Blades were in desperation mode the whole game, out shot probably 30 - 10, never had a clean break out, lots of dump and chase.

Game got chippy the last period, lots of hitting both ways. I'm sure this crew will tar and feather me for saying it, but it seems to me these kids made a good case for the new USAH rule. At least one player left the game with a serious injury, and there were at least two other incidents requiring the EMT out on the ice. All a part of the game???
Look for the Blades to keep their crown.
betcha a cup "o" joe they don't.

I'd never make it in Vegas.

LSS · Post by **LSS** » Sun Aug 28, 2011 8:54 pm

well this thread should be put to rest. Machine handled Blades not once but twice this weekend at the '00 level. Heck of a team to shut out the Blades twice. Very impressive.

Toomuchtoosoon · Post by **Toomuchtoosoon** » Sun Aug 28, 2011 10:26 pm

But the 97 team did not make it to the finals and the 98 played consolation. Enjoy the glory today, but as they get older, other factors come in to play the negate the early advantage they have now. Bunch of castoffs and kids who were not the best as squirts come back as bantams and beat both teams. All those hours at the Made and they can't bring home the wood.

May want to reconsider the excessive hours and exclusion of other activities and wonder if it is all worth it.

Balance and moderation in the end wins.

buttend · Post by **buttend** » Sun Aug 28, 2011 10:45 pm

Toomuchtoosoon wrote:But the 97 team did not make it to the finals and the 98 played consolation. Enjoy the glory today, but as they get older, other factors come in to play the negate the early advantage they have now. Bunch of castoffs and kids who were not the best as squirts come back as bantams and beat both teams. All those hours at the Made and they can't bring home the wood.

May want to reconsider the excessive hours and exclusion of other activities and wonder if it is all worth it.

Balance and moderation in the end wins.

I'm hearing the 97 team lost 5 players for this event because those players started school this weekend at Shattuck. Sorry, I'm not buying your post at the 97 level.