White Bear Lake vs. Hill-Murray at Aldrich 12-22-11

stpaul · Post by **stpaul** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:57 am

WBL 4-3-1 vs HM 3-3. Both teams have started out struggling with lots of turnover from last year's squads. They remain the favorites to win the SEC & CSC conferences. I still expect they will play each other again on March 2nd at the Coliseum in the 4AA final to go to State. HM has had a nice win over St. Thomas Academy (2-1) and had close losses to BSM (3-2), Burnsville (ended 5-2 but was 2-2 with 4 minutes left) & Wayzata (OT game). WBL went up north and lost to DE (6-3) & Cloquet (4-2) and got pasted last night by Lakeville South (7-1) at home. I like the Pioneers Guentzel, LaValle and team speed vs WBL's tough D and experienced goalie. HM will restart the streak and make it 15-1 since 2005.

old goalie85 · Post by **old goalie85** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:43 am

No way WBL beats Hill twice in a row.

BodyShots · Post by **BodyShots** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:17 pm

If the same team that played last night shows up for the Bears, then HM wins easily 5-1. If they decide to skate and tighten up the defense, then I could see a 2-2 tie.

isee · Post by **isee** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 4:52 pm

Last nights loss was entirely what I expected and Thursdays game unfortunately should be also. This is a undisciplined team. Physical play is non existent unless it's retaliation or cheap shots, the passing and catching passes compares to squirt level, there are only a handful of boys that even look like they want to be there, the defense want to be forwards and they are relying on one line to carry them. Sorry but one line is not going to work this year!!!!!

Hill 5-1

Washedup! · Post by **Washedup!** » Wed Dec 21, 2011 9:45 am

Is this game going to be shown anywhere? I noticed it will not be on myfoxhockey.com.

BodyShots · Post by **BodyShots** » Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:23 am

Washedup! wrote:Is this game going to be shown anywhere? I noticed it will not be on myfoxhockey.com.

Yeah, at Aldrich arena.

stpaul · Post by **stpaul** » Wed Dec 21, 2011 1:28 pm

Myfoxhockey - http://www.foxpreps.com/subindex/hockey/

and

foxsports prepzone - http://www.foxsportsnorth.com/pages/prepzone/

are 2 different things.

It is on foxsports prepzone:
Thursday, December 22
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White Bear Lake at Hill Murray
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SChockey · Post by **SChockey** » Wed Dec 21, 2011 1:46 pm

I know Hill is having sort of a down year, but after watching White Bear against LS I would have to give the Pioneers the edge in this one. If the Bears play well it might be a close one. Maybe it's not fair to base WB's play off one game, I'm not sure.

As usual it should be a packed house for this historic rivalry. Really love it's at Aldrich this year....they should just always play it there regardless of who is home. Much better venue with much more tradition.

Pioneers - 4

Bears - 2

ZachHalverson · Post by **ZachHalverson** » Wed Dec 21, 2011 3:45 pm

If you are in the White Bear Lake or Hill-Murray school area and have cable you can check it out LIVE on channel 19, TV19 Sports. Pregame show starts at 7:00!

Gems · Post by **Gems** » Wed Dec 21, 2011 6:17 pm

Hill wins by 3

The X · Post by **The X** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 6:27 am

stpaul wrote:WBL 4-3-1 vs HM 3-3. Both teams have started out struggling with lots of turnover from last year's squads. They remain the favorites to win the SEC & CSC conferences. I still expect they will play each other again on March 2nd at the Coliseum in the 4AA final to go to State. HM has had a nice win over St. Thomas Academy (2-1) and had close losses to BSM (3-2), Burnsville (ended 5-2 but was 2-2 with 4 minutes left) & Wayzata (OT game). WBL went up north and lost to DE (6-3) & Cloquet (4-2) and got pasted last night by Lakeville South (7-1) at home. I like the Pioneers Guentzel, LaValle and team speed vs WBL's tough D and experienced goalie. HM will restart the streak and make it 15-1 since 2005.

For WBL the real factor is, how many players did HM take from WBL this year? Pretty sure that when HM recruits WBL system, the players that are asked are not 3rd or 4th line guys nor are they the 5th or 6th defenseman from WBL. That being factored into the equation, HM should beat WBL 50 out of 50 times.

PuckU126 · Post by **PuckU126** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 7:48 am

The X wrote:For WBL the real factor is, how many players did HM take from WBL this year? Pretty sure that when HM recruits WBL system, the players that are asked are not 3rd or 4th line guys nor are they the 5th or 6th defenseman from WBL.

I'm guessing you watch X Factor too...

Washedup! · Post by **Washedup!** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 8:37 am

Thanks stpaul.

Hill- 5
WBL- 2

The X · Post by **The X** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:44 pm

PuckU126 wrote:
The X wrote:For WBL the real factor is, how many players did HM take from WBL this year? Pretty sure that when HM recruits WBL system, the players that are asked are not 3rd or 4th line guys nor are they the 5th or 6th defenseman from WBL.

I'm guessing you watch X Factor too...

Just messing around and looking for a rise out of some on here.... No malice intended.... As Mike Tice would say, "Okay, calm down"

Sats81 · Post by **Sats81** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:21 pm

HM 6-2

UntouchableFlow · Post by **UntouchableFlow** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 8:07 pm

Score update? Can't stream from my phone.

SChockey · Post by **SChockey** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 9:21 pm

It was 5-2 Hill at start of 3rd. That's the last update I received, should be about half way thru the 3rd by now....

SChockey · Post by **SChockey** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 9:23 pm

The Bears apparently don't have much going for offense, which has been the trend so far this season and probably won't change much either. Hill jumped out to a 3-0 lead in the first. Wish I could of gone I'm sure it's a packed house.

BearsSensGophs · Post by **BearsSensGophs** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 9:41 pm

7-2 when I left with about 5 minutes to go.

pioneers · Post by **pioneers** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 9:43 pm

Was 7-2 with less than a minute and H-M on power play

Pioneerprideguy · Post by **Pioneerprideguy** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 10:00 pm

Good night for the Pioneer Program. JV wins 8-1 & the varsity wins 7-2. Nice to see the building full and the fans into it. Hill just seemed to have too much speed up front for the Bears. Nice job guys!

Sats81 · Post by **Sats81** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 10:07 pm

Sats81 wrote:HM 6-2

Off by 1. Not bad.

BodyShots · Post by **BodyShots** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 10:12 pm

Put it in the books. 2 and done for the 4AA representative at state this year.

HappyHockeyFan · Post by **HappyHockeyFan** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 10:28 pm

Was at the game tonight, full house and the White Bear Fans didnt dissapoint as usual. WBL had several golden opportunities to score and make this a closer game. Come sections I think if they meet again the Bears will make it a closer more competitive game. They are a scrappy team, as usual, and move the puck around really well in the opponents zone.

stpaul · Post by **stpaul** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 10:36 pm

Lots of fun tonight at Aldrich over on the HM side. Not much tension though. It never felt like WBL was in it. Maybe the naysayers about Sager are right. The Bears are an undisciplined mess. Schletty didn't get much help. The 5 guys on the ice in front of him needed to play tight defense but were all over the place. Dugas was very solid for HM. WBL had 26 shots but very few really good scoring chances or rebounds. One of their goals was on a 5 on 3. WBL may win the SEC but would be no better than 5th in the CSC. HM, STA, Mahtomedi and No. St. Paul are all better than WBL right now.

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