Tigers33 wrote:I will take the grandson of Lou Nanne anyday of the week with a scholarship or without. The kid and the family is exactly what the gophers need. Louie will not leave college early, and it would shock me if Vinny left early too. The gophers need those talented players, that work hard, and that will stick around.
Go piss on someone else BoDangles.
Hats off to Louie and Vinny. I think Lou is nothing but class when it comes to a hockey figure in this state. I will gladly cheer on his grand kids at the U of M. And oh, if you think Louie isnt a leader than you are wrong. I believe he is one of the captains on the Edina team. And trust me, Giles doesnt throw those around to anyone. Giles isnt looking to keep the Nanne family happy by naming Louie a captain. I bet ya he earned it.
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Tigers33 wrote:I will take the grandson of Lou Nanne anyday of the week with a scholarship or without. The kid and the family is exactly what the gophers need. Louie will not leave college early, and it would shock me if Vinny left early too. The gophers need those talented players, that work hard, and that will stick around.
Go piss on someone else BoDangles.
Hats off to Louie and Vinny. I think Lou is nothing but class when it comes to a hockey figure in this state. I will gladly cheer on his grand kids at the U of M. And oh, if you think Louie isnt a leader than you are wrong. I believe he is one of the captains on the Edina team. And trust me, Giles doesnt throw those around to anyone. Giles isnt looking to keep the Nanne family happy by naming Louie a captain. I bet ya he earned it.
Agreed, I don't know what all the chatter about Nanne is about. he's good, played very well in the U17 deal this summer...hung in there with the best in the nation. I'm glad he'll be a gopher.
mngopherfan wrote:Agreed, I don't know what all the chatter about Nanne is about. he's good, played very well in the U17 deal this summer...hung in there with the best in the nation. I'm glad he'll be a gopher.
Me too. I think he is a quality addition. We know he's not coming in with the expectation of being an all-American or a big time scorer. I'm sure he will be working to be that kind of player as he won't want to limit himself but that's not the expectation. I'm sure he's quite used to being doubted because of his last name. Just comes with the territory. Let the haters hate away though. Given the talent they have been landing lately, if that's what others want to focus on, so be it.
mngopherfan wrote:Agreed, I don't know what all the chatter about Nanne is about. he's good, played very well in the U17 deal this summer...hung in there with the best in the nation. I'm glad he'll be a gopher.
Me too. I think he is a quality addition. We know he's not coming in with the expectation of being an all-American or a big time scorer. I'm sure he will be working to be that kind of player as he won't want to limit himself but that's not the expectation. I'm sure he's quite used to being doubted because of his last name. Just comes with the territory. Let the haters hate away though. Given the talent they have been landing lately, if that's what others want to focus on, so be it.
Hate? A freshman on the Edina team has twice as many points... He's the fourth leading scorer! It's called curious facts...
You put a happy face on for every Gopher recruit and then the real "hate" shows for other programs recruits. Get real!
Is Lettierii Lou's grandson? I Don't hear ANY DOUBTS about him....
If he's not being looked upon to play top line, top PP types of roles, I'm not sure that focusing on point totals now is really proving much. By your analysis, guys who didn't score much in college hockey shouldn't be playing in the NHL. Yet there are guys exactly like that playing in the NHL.
I'm not really even sure why you care. You are a fan of another program so if the Gophs add a player that you think is no good, shouldn't you be happy about it?
We'll take him though. Thanks.
You put a happy face on for every Gopher recruit
It's tough avoiding a happy face given the level of talent involved.
The moderators probably ought to lock this one as it's hard to see it going in a productive direction from here. People will just have to agree to disagree. Anybody who's a Gopher fan wants him and the team to do well; anybody who's rooting against someone universally praised as being a good kid is a shallow and empty person with a pathetic life. But no matter what his name, any forward who was scoring that little after committing prior to his junior would have people asking questions; people are just raising the obvious and reasonable question here. Let's hope he proves people wrong.
Tigers33 wrote:Oldschoolpuckster - Was that a canadian collage or american college? Give it a rest. Of course major junior is a great place to go for development and competition. So is the NCAA. Look at how many players are currently drafted that are playing college hockey. Most the elite college players are drafted before they play college hockey, but I am sure you knew that.
It was an American. Probably why it was misspelled. One more reason not to go NCAA...or maybe I've had too many undiagnosed concussions.....
The numbers are not even close when it comes to CHL vs. NCAA!!! They never have been and they never will be!!! Why do so many of you dismiss it as an option? It is clearly the top producer of players into the NHL.
Gopher Blog wrote:If he's not being looked upon to play top line, top PP types of roles, I'm not sure that focusing on point totals now is really proving much. By your analysis, guys who didn't score much in college hockey shouldn't be playing in the NHL. Yet there are guys exactly like that playing in the NHL.
I'm not really even sure why you care. You are a fan of another program so if the Gophs add a player that you think is no good, shouldn't you be happy about it?
We'll take him though. Thanks.
You put a happy face on for every Gopher recruit
It's tough avoiding a happy face given the level of talent involved.
I'm sure you are excited for the little Oompa Loompas to arrive.
And why do you care(post) about other program's recruits?
I just like to give it back to ya.. I hope he does well and proves me wrong.
oldschoolpuckster wrote:
It was an American. Probably why it was misspelled. One more reason not to go NCAA...or maybe I've had too many undiagnosed concussions.....
The numbers are not even close when it comes to CHL vs. NCAA!!! They never have been and they never will be!!! Why do so many of you dismiss it as an option? It is clearly the top producer of players into the NHL.
The numbers aren't close because Canadians produce more NHL players and they mostly choose to play in their own league over our college leagues. So I'm sure no one will disagree with that statement. But I haven't seen anyone dismissing the CHL as an option, in fact, pretty sure everyone has agreed that its a great option - but the NCAA is a solid route as well.
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oldschoolpuckster wrote:The numbers are not even close when it comes to CHL vs. NCAA!!! They never have been and they never will be!!! Why do so many of you dismiss it as an option? It is clearly the top producer of players into the NHL.
If you have the ability, you can go either route and make the NHL. May as well cover your bases and get a quality education at the same time.
I believe JP Parise said he has heard a number of NHLers say they wish they had played college hockey but he said he never heard one NHLer say he wish he hadn't played college hockey.
longdistancespectator8 wrote:As keepyourheadup said, look up a list of kids drafted who are under 6 feet. This is just an assumption, but I would be willing to bet that they were all highly touted scorers as youth kids. Its just too easy to find a 6' 2" "team player" over a 5' 10" "team player".
forwards in the NHL under 6 feet:
Mike Comrie:5' 10" as a 17 year old scored 138 points in 58 games in the Alberta junior league
Steve Sullivan: 5' 8" as an 18 year old 63 points in 62 games in the OHL.
Andy Mcdonald:5' 8" 58 points in 34 games his senior year for the Colgate Raiders, went undrafted and has been in the NHL since 2001.
Doug Weight: 5' 11" as an 18 year old had 69 points in 46 games for Lake Superior State.
Darren Helm: 5' 11" as a 19 year old had 79 points in 70 games in the WHL. He is your protypical "team player" in the NHL.
Mark Recchi: 5' 10" as a 16 year old playing in the BCHL he had 65 points in 51 games.
Jeff Skinner: 5' 11" as a 16 year old 97 points in 50 games played in the GTHL.
Jussi Jokinen: 5' 11" an anomaly on this list, played in european professional leagues and scored under a point per game in his career there starting at the age of 17.
Scott Gomez: 5' 11"
Kris Versteeg: 5' 10"
Brian Gionta: 5' 7"as a freshmen fpr Boston College had 62 points in 40 games.
Claude Giroux: 5' 11"
Saku Koivu:5' 10"
Matt Duchene: 5' 11"
Daniel Alfredsson: 5' 11"
Danny Briere: 5' 10" as a 17 year old had 123 points in 72 games in the QMJHL.
Mike Richards: 5' 11"
Henrik Zetterberg: 5' 11"
Martin St. Louis: 5' 7" undrafted had 87 points 31 games playing in the CJHL as a 17 year old.
Pavel Datsyuk: 5' 11"
Patrick Kane: 5' 11"
Syndey Crosby: 5' 11"
Just a quick cursory search for NHLers. Left out statistics for some of the big name guys since I don't believe any MN-High player is challenging to be an NHL superstar this year.
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Zach Parise listed at 5'11" on the NHL bio.
Was Phil Kessel 6' in HS. Sure did not seem that big when he was a Gopher.
Gopher Blog wrote:If he's not being looked upon to play top line, top PP types of roles, I'm not sure that focusing on point totals now is really proving much. By your analysis, guys who didn't score much in college hockey shouldn't be playing in the NHL. Yet there are guys exactly like that playing in the NHL.
I'm not really even sure why you care. You are a fan of another program so if the Gophs add a player that you think is no good, shouldn't you be happy about it?
We'll take him though. Thanks.
You put a happy face on for every Gopher recruit
It's tough avoiding a happy face given the level of talent involved.
You are certainly correct - but I think you'd have a hard time coming up with a list of those players who were not over 6' and 200 lbs.
oldschoolpuckster wrote:The numbers are not even close when it comes to CHL vs. NCAA!!! They never have been and they never will be!!! Why do so many of you dismiss it as an option? It is clearly the top producer of players into the NHL.
If you have the ability, you can go either route and make the NHL. May as well cover your bases and get a quality education at the same time.
I believe JP Parise said he has heard a number of NHLers say they wish they had played college hockey but he said he never heard one NHLer say he wish he hadn't played college hockey.
Please let us know the names of the NHL'ers. Not one of your better posts.
oldschoolpuckster wrote:The numbers are not even close when it comes to CHL vs. NCAA!!! They never have been and they never will be!!! Why do so many of you dismiss it as an option? It is clearly the top producer of players into the NHL.
I think that is the point exactly. It's like the fuss around Benik a couple of years ago. Scorers score. Either of the Cisar brothers would have over 20 points skating on Edina.
edina has like 2 or 3 players over 20 points right now and there all better then the cisar bros, they would be lucky to even make the team for edina
mulefarm wrote:Please let us know the names of the NHL'ers.
LOL. Speaking of a bad post. Try reading a little bit. I'm not JP Parise. Pretty tough for me to know who he is talking about if he doesn't say their names.
Well I heard from my wifes, cousins, co-workers, neighbor who ice fishes at Ballards resort that Cody Hodgson** (Canucks 1st round pick in 08) said to Keith Ballard on a recent flight, “Man I am glad I didn’t go the college route, especially to the Gophers.” He was referring to the fact that Vancouver wasted their 07 first rd pick on Gopher Patrick White and 09 first rd pick on Gopher Jordan Schroeder.
I confirmed this with my boss, whose brother, went to the Vancouver Olympics and is facebook friends with a flight attendant who also works the Canucks charter.
**Hodgson was the CHL player of the year and headed to the Youngstars game next week. It looks like he is on pace to score 20 goals as a 3rd line center and probably doesn’t see much PP time with the Sedins in the lineup.
He currently makes 25-30 times as much money as the 07 and 09 picks.
As a Gophers fan...My mom's cousin who gets her hair done at a place in uptown knows the taxi driver that once drove the schroeder's aunt to the airport. Schroeder apparently is a worthless, selfish, spoiled, and disrespectful little brat.
I bet those two are the only first round to picks to NEVER play in the NHL. Should we look at how many first round picks made it. I am going to guess Gillies was a major junior player. Wow, he has been spectacular as a pick. Gillies in 89 games has 3 goals and 7 assists. And oh he is on waivers.
Its funny that the gophers are a better hockey team without those two players. Sounds to me like Vancouver needs to do their homework a little better.
Someone please post all of the Minnesotans that went the major junior route the past 10-15 years that are playing in the NHL. And than put the list of Minnesotans that went the college route that are playing in the NHL in those same years.
I could CARELESS about the canadians that went that route, or other americans. I am only curious as to the Minnesotans. Because than I will start saying kids should go over seas at the age of 10 so they can play in finland, sweeden, and russia.
Recent Wild drafts:
2011 - 1 from Finland, 2 from major junior, and 3 future college players.
2010 - 1 from Finland, 2 from Sweeden, 2 from major junior, and 1 from college
2009 - 1 from Finland, 4 from college, 3 from major junior
Total - 3 from finalnd, 7 from major junior, 8 from college, 2 from Sweeden.
The only ones I know off hand are Pat Finnegan from Duluth East, and I think the kid that couldnt cut it at the gophers - Lofquist. So, please share others.
I think the main point people are saying is it isnt a bad idea to go get an education from a premier college while playing hockey, because very few actually make it in the NHL. If they do make it, it wont last forever.
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