Fergus Falls vs Little Falls Sec. 6 A Championship

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Hoc2x21
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Fergus Falls vs Little Falls Sec. 6 A Championship

Post by Hoc2x21 »

The teams expected to make it to the Sec 6A Championship game are there.
Whats the word on the street? Can the Otters pull this upset off? Do the Flyers have too much juice in the tank for the Otters? I know the the Flyers have outstanding goaltending, superb defense, and some great team speed not to mention a few boys that definitely can put the puck away.
The Otters have the top Scorer in the Section in Algren, along with some great team speed. They have outshot most of there opponents with an aggressive style of dump and chase. Goaltending is not quite where I would like to see it but I have seen Borgum stand on his head in the past against the Roseau Bantams. I am looking forward to a very good game.
May the Hockey Gods Bless us and provide the Otters with an oustanding effort and a trip to the State tournament.

GOOD LUCK PEE WEE A'S IN THE REGIONAL TOURNEY!!!!!!
GO OTTERS!!!!!

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Post by Roy01 »

I'd like to see the Otters get back to St. Paul in an upset. They have been playing very good hockey in sections thus far, I hope it continues. Pulling for the underdog here; plus, if you're playing Little Falls, you know a lower seed can beat them :wink:
Hoc2x21
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Flyers

Post by Hoc2x21 »

I am just curious as to how Princeton beat L F 2 times this season.
Any ideas?
The Flyers played a very competitive schedule this season.
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Post by Mite-dad »

Little Falls can certainly lay an egg as they've proven more than once this year. And they got nicked up a little bit against Sartell in the semifinal. But I'm just not feeling a loss here for the Flyers. I think they have too much depth and decent D and goaltending. I'm thinking 4-1 or 5-2 Flyers.
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Re: Flyers

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Hoc2x21 wrote:I am just curious as to how Princeton beat L F 2 times this season.
Any ideas?
The Flyers played a very competitive schedule this season.
After watching Princeton play Cathedral in the 5A quarterfinals, it seemed as though Princeton didn't have a ton of skill but really a "lunch pail" kind of team who are going hard all the time. They really box it up in their d-zone which can be very frustrating for offensive teams like Cathedral and Little Falls with 5 guys condensed in front of their net. Luckily Cathedral got some home cookin' on a goal scored after time expired to take a 2-1 lead and the Crusaders never looked back after that.

I would assume Princeton got by Little Falls with this bogged down style, and they block a ton of shots. They had quite a few of odd man rushes in the Cathedral game because of this and that is how they scored as well, so must have been the case in LF too.
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Re: Flyers

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mn miracle man wrote:
Hoc2x21 wrote:I am just curious as to how Princeton beat L F 2 times this season.
Any ideas?
The Flyers played a very competitive schedule this season.
After watching Princeton play Cathedral in the 5A quarterfinals, it seemed as though Princeton didn't have a ton of skill but really a "lunch pail" kind of team who are going hard all the time. They really box it up in their d-zone which can be very frustrating for offensive teams like Cathedral and Little Falls with 5 guys condensed in front of their net. Luckily Cathedral got some home cookin' on a goal scored after time expired to take a 2-1 lead and the Crusaders never looked back after that.

I would assume Princeton got by Little Falls with this bogged down style, and they block a ton of shots. They had quite a few of odd man rushes in the Cathedral game because of this and that is how they scored as well, so must have been the case in LF too.
I agree with most of what you say.

But that's simply untrue.
shins
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Post by shins »

The last time these two teams played it was a non-competitive game as LF was all over FF defensively. They gave them no room to operate and smothered them for 3 periods. This is what the Flyers are capable of, as they have also won at Rogers, beat Lourdes and Mound-Westonka at home and lost a tight one goal game to Hibbing and by 2 to Hermantown..... on the flip side, they were non-competitive against Princeton and embarrassed by Cathedral their second game (after blowing a 3-1 3rd period lead the first time they played).

I honestly believe that this game fully lies in how the Flyers play. They are too talented a squad when they play together and hard to lose this one.... the flip side is, they have also shown that they can come out flat and selfishly and look very below average. More than any team I have seen before, this squad is usually one or the other, very rarely anything in between.
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Post by GordonBombay99 »

Depends on what Flyers team shows up but I still say Flyers in a 4-1 or 5-2 game. Little Falls is too deep not to win this game and they have the mental advantage of beating Fergus in the regular season also.
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Post by Sats81 »

Flyers 5-3.
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Re: Flyers

Post by KICKED-IN-THE-PRIVATES »

BobSaget wrote:
mn miracle man wrote:
Hoc2x21 wrote:I am just curious as to how Princeton beat L F 2 times this season.
Any ideas?
The Flyers played a very competitive schedule this season.
After watching Princeton play Cathedral in the 5A quarterfinals, it seemed as though Princeton didn't have a ton of skill but really a "lunch pail" kind of team who are going hard all the time. They really box it up in their d-zone which can be very frustrating for offensive teams like Cathedral and Little Falls with 5 guys condensed in front of their net. Luckily Cathedral got some home cookin' on a goal scored after time expired to take a 2-1 lead and the Crusaders never looked back after that.

I would assume Princeton got by Little Falls with this bogged down style, and they block a ton of shots. They had quite a few of odd man rushes in the Cathedral game because of this and that is how they scored as well, so must have been the case in LF too.
I agree with most of what you say.

But that's simply untrue.
SCC never needed luck to beat Princeton...
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Post by Mr.DudeGuy »

I think Little Falls will take this one. They are a high quality team when they come out hard. and since this is a very similar team to their number 1 seed from last year that got upset in the quarterfinals (I think they lost 2 seniors?). I just don't think they will let anything like that happen again. My guess is a 5-2 win for the Flyers.
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Post by trev2k1 »

FLYERS RETURN TO THE X.
winning 6-1
LF 29 sog
FF 24 sog
led by Michael Stumpf with 23 saves
Joe Hanowski 1g 3a
Ben Newman 2g 1 a
Camden
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Post by Camden »

FF had a couple good skaters but absolutely no depth and below average goal tending. They looked more like a 1st round opponent than a team competing for a section title.
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Re: Flyers

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KICKED-IN-THE-PRIVATES wrote:
BobSaget wrote:
mn miracle man wrote: After watching Princeton play Cathedral in the 5A quarterfinals, it seemed as though Princeton didn't have a ton of skill but really a "lunch pail" kind of team who are going hard all the time. They really box it up in their d-zone which can be very frustrating for offensive teams like Cathedral and Little Falls with 5 guys condensed in front of their net. Luckily Cathedral got some home cookin' on a goal scored after time expired to take a 2-1 lead and the Crusaders never looked back after that.

I would assume Princeton got by Little Falls with this bogged down style, and they block a ton of shots. They had quite a few of odd man rushes in the Cathedral game because of this and that is how they scored as well, so must have been the case in LF too.
I agree with most of what you say.

But that's simply untrue.
SCC never needed luck to beat Princeton...
I didn't say they needed luck to get by Princeton, but that "lucky" break really took the wind out of Princeton's sails, and every chance that they thought they had at upsetting Cathedral was long gone after that. They just seemed so doomed after that.
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Post by defense »

Camden wrote:FF had a couple good skaters but absolutely no depth and below average goal tending. They looked more like a 1st round opponent than a team competing for a section title.
Obviously Little Falls improved through the year, Fergus Falls may well have faded through the year. Goal tending would appear to be a big difference (wasn't at the game), but I can assume that LF had more quality chances etc... I do know that LF has a heckuva goalie though.
Good luck to the Flyers.
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Post by Mite-dad »

FF day will come. Very good Bantam and PeeWee teams bode well for the future of the Otters.
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Post by deacon64 »

Mite-dad wrote:FF day will come. Very good Bantam and PeeWee teams bode well for the future of the Otters.
Current FF Bantam team was 5th out of 6 teams in district, not sure how that is good. Also, when has the 2nd year of Bantams ever had a winning season, don't forget the 1-4 playoff record this year.
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Post by defense »

Mite-dad wrote:FF day will come. Very good Bantam and PeeWee teams bode well for the future of the Otters.
The 10th and11th grade class had the best FF bantam a team in a decade or more. Tell me what changed. One guy does not make a team.
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Post by Mite-dad »

The FF Bantam A team was 6-2 against single A programs in the district. The PWA team was the number 1 seed at Districts. The talent is there to be successful. I understand that that talent may not translate into HS success, but the potential is there. It will be interesting to see where FF and LF are in 2 to 3 years as LF Bantams and PWs are on the bottom of the standings. I guess only time will tell.

The current HS kids at LF made it to the state tourney as PWAs. That translated into HS success for them. FF made it to the section finals so you can't say they weren't successful really. It's no small feet to make it to the finals.
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Mite-dad wrote:The FF Bantam A team was 6-2 against single A programs in the district. The PWA team was the number 1 seed at Districts. The talent is there to be successful. I understand that that talent may not translate into HS success, but the potential is there. It will be interesting to see where FF and LF are in 2 to 3 years as LF Bantams and PWs are on the bottom of the standings. I guess only time will tell.

The current HS kids at LF made it to the state tourney as PWAs. That translated into HS success for them. FF made it to the section finals so you can't say they weren't successful really. It's no small feet to make it to the finals.
The FF sophs and juniors were the top class a team in dist 15, second in VFW (number two and 4 seeds). They advanced to mn hockey regionals, took third in vfw dist 9, and were the third ranked class a team in the bantam A state poll(top 20).

The kids on the FF peewee A's this year are a special group, hopefully they keep it going. Last year's peewee A's went to regions as well. Ironic that the guy who coached the sophs and juniors in bantam a's also coached the peewee a's the last two years.

The FF bantam A's this year did very well considering that they played with 4 guys on the bench most of the time. A couple very talented kids on that team as well.
My comment asking what changed is loaded, I already know what is wrong.

Section finals is an accomplishment these days, yes. A disclaimer is that I have been dissapointed in FF all year, not just section tourney. It would've been slightly better had they actually competed in the final.
Possibly after having a year of varsity experience they will fare better, but I have to tip my hat to what the head of the LF hs team has done. I believe more than anything that he out coaches his opponents.
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Post by mn miracle man »

defense wrote:
Mite-dad wrote:The FF Bantam A team was 6-2 against single A programs in the district. The PWA team was the number 1 seed at Districts. The talent is there to be successful. I understand that that talent may not translate into HS success, but the potential is there. It will be interesting to see where FF and LF are in 2 to 3 years as LF Bantams and PWs are on the bottom of the standings. I guess only time will tell.

The current HS kids at LF made it to the state tourney as PWAs. That translated into HS success for them. FF made it to the section finals so you can't say they weren't successful really. It's no small feet to make it to the finals.
The FF sophs and juniors were the top class a team in dist 15, second in VFW (number two and 4 seeds). They advanced to mn hockey regionals, took third in vfw dist 9, and were the third ranked class a team in the bantam A state poll(top 20).

Section finals is an accomplishment these days, yes. A disclaimer is that I have been dissapointed in FF all year, not just section tourney. It would've been slightly better had they actually competed in the final.
Possibly after having a year of varsity experience they will fare better, but I have to tip my hat to what the head of the LF hs team has done. I believe more than anything that he out coaches his opponents.
It looks as though times will be tough for both squads after next year because the JV teams most likely won't be filling in any major talent. Knowing from the St. Cloud area, Little Falls got beat by Sartell's JV somewhere in the tune of 8-1 and the scores were similar for Fergus Falls as well.

Looking at the youth hockey:
Bantam A's:
Little Falls was the last seed (or 6 seed) and got beat by #3 Detroit Lakes 5-0 and then 3-1 by Fergus to go 2 and out of the tournament.
Fergus was the #5 seed and lost to #4 seed Brainerd twice (6-5 and 6-0) with that win over Little Falls. Interesting to note that team that handled LF in the quarters got beat by Moorhead 7-1 in the championship.

Peewee A's:
Fergus Falls was the top seed and beat the #8 seed Little Falls 3-2 in the opening round of the tourney, Fergus went on to beat Brainerd and then lose to Moorhead 5-3 in the title and finished runner-up so pretty good.
LF on the other hand, lost to the other Moorhead team (#5 seed) to end their season.

Fergus looks like they might have hope coming, but it seems as though LF reign over the section might be long gone after next season...
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Post by deacon64 »

Like the optimism.

Reality is this year's Bantam team sub .500 record. 6-2 in 8 games is no indication of future success.

PeeWee team has had a great season, issues would be size and no checking this season. Do not dobut this group will be successful in HS if continue to the play the game the right way as a 'team'.

Go Otters, congrats to this season's HS team - 2nd in conference (1st time ever) and 2nd in Section!
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Post by northern_guy »

that was a very sad section final game. it will be a rough first round for small falls at the X. one very bad team and one very average class A team. i like little falls student section though. they travel well and cheer hard.
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Post by DKS1962 »

Northern Guy..That's class A small association/small town hockey.Not a lot of depth and yes average in your mind.

We aren't all Metro All Star Teams coming from the Private Hockey Academies.

Good Luck Flyers!!
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Post by northern_guy »

DKS1962 wrote:Northern Guy..That's class A small association/small town hockey.Not a lot of depth and yes average in your mind.

We aren't all Metro All Star Teams coming from the Private Hockey Academies.

Good Luck Flyers!!
just saying its a weak crappy section...but there is still one worse than section 6a so its ok.
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