2012-2013 Russell Stover Tryouts

[Ugottobekiddingme]

U:

Blue pucks are in the USA Hockey rulebook, as well as Canada's. Surprisingly, there have not been proposals to change the rule. (Mandatory at 8 & Under and suggested for 10 & Under.)

Clown...thanks for making my point valid. You're fired.

[Snap Happy]

"Life is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you are going to get"...but here lifes lesson #142, blue pucks, no checking in peewee's, nutrition regiment, class A/AA, waivers and I can go on and on without the help of big governing hockey telling me what entitlement is deserved by all looking for that one carmel filled nut roll. Proof is something you need to explore or just take a trip to KC.

"Big Governing Hockey" would be more like USA Hockey - wouldn't it?

Still..your argument that MN Hockey does a poor job in developing the youth for advanced levels is NOT valid. We crank out high end talent EVERY year that is prepared for the next level. You've called on Greybeard to enlighten us - and if you've been around long enough on this board you'd realize that he has many times. He posts data at least a couple times a year (because this topic comes up a lot) on how well MN does at producing high end talent - talent that's moving to the next level.

Additionally, didn't MN just produce that latest Hobey Baker winner????? ssshhhyyyyaaaa... maybe that's not what you meant by being ready for advanced levels of hockey...

[scoreandscoreoften]

Can a kid register for two teams and play for both Russell Stover and their association team? I always thought you could only register for one USA team.

[jpiehl]

"Life is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you are going to get"...but here lifes lesson #142, blue pucks, no checking in peewee's, nutrition regiment, class A/AA, waivers and I can go on and on without the help of big governing hockey telling me what entitlement is deserved by all looking for that one carmel filled nut roll. Proof is something you need to explore or just take a trip to KC.

"Big Governing Hockey" would be more like USA Hockey - wouldn't it?

Still..your argument that MN Hockey does a poor job in developing the youth for advanced levels is NOT valid. We crank out high end talent EVERY year that is prepared for the next level. You've called on Greybeard to enlighten us - and if you've been around long enough on this board you'd realize that he has many times. He posts data at least a couple times a year (because this topic comes up a lot) on how well MN does at producing high end talent - talent that's moving to the next level.

Additionally, didn't MN just produce that latest Hobey Baker winner????? ssshhhyyyyaaaa... maybe that's not what you meant by being ready for advanced levels of hockey...

The fact that Minnesota continues to produce high end players every year is as much a function of how many kids play at the youth level as it is the development, maybe more so. Just like how a 1200 player association is going to have a better PeeWee A team than a 100 player association. What would be telling is to compare the percentage of players that go on to a D1 or Professional career from various areas. That would give you a more accurate picture of who is truly developing players, and who is simply playing a numbers game. For instance, at the youth level, I would contend that Roseau is developing players since they produce top level teams with limited association numbers, while an Edina or Osseo-Maple Grove can simply shave off the top few kids who would have been dominant players regardless of where they played, due to their own drive and talent levels. A Mega Association may or may not develop players well, but they will likely have winning teams regardless due to the sheer numbers.

[Trash Hauler]

"Life is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you are going to get"...but here lifes lesson #142, blue pucks, no checking in peewee's, nutrition regiment, class A/AA, waivers and I can go on and on without the help of big governing hockey telling me what entitlement is deserved by all looking for that one carmel filled nut roll. Proof is something you need to explore or just take a trip to KC.

"Big Governing Hockey" would be more like USA Hockey - wouldn't it?

Still..your argument that MN Hockey does a poor job in developing the youth for advanced levels is NOT valid. We crank out high end talent EVERY year that is prepared for the next level. You've called on Greybeard to enlighten us - and if you've been around long enough on this board you'd realize that he has many times. He posts data at least a couple times a year (because this topic comes up a lot) on how well MN does at producing high end talent - talent that's moving to the next level.

Additionally, didn't MN just produce that latest Hobey Baker winner????? ssshhhyyyyaaaa... maybe that's not what you meant by being ready for advanced levels of hockey...

The fact that Minnesota continues to produce high end players every year is as much a function of how many kids play at the youth level as it is the development, maybe more so. Just like how a 1200 player association is going to have a better PeeWee A team than a 100 player association. What would be telling is to compare the percentage of players that go on to a D1 or Professional career from various areas. That would give you a more accurate picture of who is truly developing players, and who is simply playing a numbers game. For instance, at the youth level, I would contend that Roseau is developing players since they produce top level teams with limited association numbers, while an Edina or Osseo-Maple Grove can simply shave off the top few kids who would have been dominant players regardless of where they played, due to their own drive and talent levels. A Mega Association may or may not develop players well, but they will likely have winning teams regardless due to the sheer numbers.

If you apply this same logic to european countries with limited populations such as Sweden and Finland, it would go a long way to support USA and Minnesota Hockeys current development plans.

[O-townClown]

U:

And you confirm that some people would rather complain than do something constructive. It's very easy to suggest a rule change. And if you feel strongly, why don't you work to change Canada's rule book too.

I don't care what color pucks kids use. My two teams over Memorial Day warmed up for each game with red pucks. As I hoped, I got them all back.

[Snap Happy]

"Life is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you are going to get"...but here lifes lesson #142, blue pucks, no checking in peewee's, nutrition regiment, class A/AA, waivers and I can go on and on without the help of big governing hockey telling me what entitlement is deserved by all looking for that one carmel filled nut roll. Proof is something you need to explore or just take a trip to KC.

"Big Governing Hockey" would be more like USA Hockey - wouldn't it?

Still..your argument that MN Hockey does a poor job in developing the youth for advanced levels is NOT valid. We crank out high end talent EVERY year that is prepared for the next level. You've called on Greybeard to enlighten us - and if you've been around long enough on this board you'd realize that he has many times. He posts data at least a couple times a year (because this topic comes up a lot) on how well MN does at producing high end talent - talent that's moving to the next level.

Additionally, didn't MN just produce that latest Hobey Baker winner????? ssshhhyyyyaaaa... maybe that's not what you meant by being ready for advanced levels of hockey...

The fact that Minnesota continues to produce high end players every year is as much a function of how many kids play at the youth level as it is the development, maybe more so. Just like how a 1200 player association is going to have a better PeeWee A team than a 100 player association. What would be telling is to compare the percentage of players that go on to a D1 or Professional career from various areas. That would give you a more accurate picture of who is truly developing players, and who is simply playing a numbers game. For instance, at the youth level, I would contend that Roseau is developing players since they produce top level teams with limited association numbers, while an Edina or Osseo-Maple Grove can simply shave off the top few kids who would have been dominant players regardless of where they played, due to their own drive and talent levels. A Mega Association may or may not develop players well, but they will likely have winning teams regardless due to the sheer numbers.

Great point about the "amount of kids playing". Let's remember that a primary driver of the quantity is the association model, where you can play good competition, just 10 minutes down the road.

As far as the comment about how Roseau develops their kids vs a mega association. Roseau will probably have a higher average of high end players because in Roseau, ALL the top athletes play hockey. Where as in Eden Prairie (as an example), many of the high end athletes specialize in other sports and don't even play hockey.

[MrBoDangles]

I have to laugh at posts like this. MN is doing a fine job of developing it's youth - I'd like to see you prove that otherwise.

Ugo and Puck must make Elk River proud.

Hi Bo!

Ugo!!

[Velocity3]

...last winter I saw two russel stover kids w/moms flying home into msp from weekend practices. They also played for lakeville south...they were mixing up the jackets/hat/warm up pants combinations with both teams' swag represented. is that allowed?

1. Russell Stover kids had weekend practices in Des Moines......they drove, they didn't fly.

2. There were no Lakeville South kids on the Russell Stover teams.

This blog is sooooo funny.

[Irish]

...last winter I saw two russel stover kids w/moms flying home into msp from weekend practices. They also played for lakeville south...they were mixing up the jackets/hat/warm up pants combinations with both teams' swag represented. is that allowed?

1. Russell Stover kids had weekend practices in Des Moines......they drove, they didn't fly.

2. There were no Lakeville South kids on the Russell Stover teams.

This blog is sooooo funny.

Let me ask. Did any of the Minnesota kids play in any tournaments? If so, do you suppose they had to fly?

[Velocity3]

...last winter I saw two russel stover kids w/moms flying home into msp from weekend practices. They also played for lakeville south...they were mixing up the jackets/hat/warm up pants combinations with both teams' swag represented. is that allowed?

1. Russell Stover kids had weekend practices in Des Moines......they drove, they didn't fly.

2. There were no Lakeville South kids on the Russell Stover teams.

This blog is sooooo funny.

Let me ask. Did any of the Minnesota kids play in any tournaments? If so, do you suppose they had to fly?

They played in 10 - 12 tournaments and from what I know, only to 1 or two did they fly.

[SnowedIn]

Can a kid register for two teams and play for both Russell Stover and their association team? I always thought you could only register for one USA team.

Correct me if I'm wrong but it seems like the only reason you'd do that is to hedge yourself so you could make a choice down the road, thereby railroading one of the clubs. Figure it out and make a decision so you don't cast a shadow on yourself and your kid.

[old goalie85]

When my 94 and 98 were Bantam/squirts we loaded up all five kids went to the Chi-Town. At that time Marty Nanne had a team of Mn kids called the Jr North Stars[A.J. Michealson/top player I saw down there] Team Midwest[Anders Franke/best goalie I saw down there] Also @ the event Mission/Compuware/TeamIll/Honeybaked. Did these teams stop playing a summer schedule together since?

[scoreandscoreoften]

Can a kid register for two teams and play for both Russell Stover and their association team? I always thought you could only register for one USA team.

Correct me if I'm wrong but it seems like the only reason you'd do that is to hedge yourself so you could make a choice down the road, thereby railroading one of the clubs. Figure it out and make a decision so you don't cast a shadow on yourself and your kid.

Not what I was thinking about doing. My kid is not good enough, and don't have enough money to swing it. My thoughts were one or the other. Posters talking about Mn kids practicing with RS every weekend, and others playing in 10-12 tournaments with them. Are these kids playing with their association teams too? Can't see how that could be, and was looking for clarification.

[Velocity3]

Can a kid register for two teams and play for both Russell Stover and their association team? I always thought you could only register for one USA team.

Correct me if I'm wrong but it seems like the only reason you'd do that is to hedge yourself so you could make a choice down the road, thereby railroading one of the clubs. Figure it out and make a decision so you don't cast a shadow on yourself and your kid.

Not what I was thinking about doing. My kid is not good enough, and don't have enough money to swing it. My thoughts were one or the other. Posters talking about Mn kids practicing with RS every weekend, and others playing in 10-12 tournaments with them. Are these kids playing with their association teams too? Can't see how that could be, and was looking for clarification.

Russell Stover was their one and only team.....no different than Minnesota kids who play in an association except they competed on the AAA level.

[Short North]

MN Hockey requests an inter-affiliate waiver filed in order to play youth hockey outside MN. This allows for participation @ the Tier 1 (AAA) level only.....I don't believe MN Hockey will accept this waiver for a Tier 2 program. A player is not allowed to register w/ their association & another Tier 1 program during a season. MN high school players can play Tier 1 or various Jr. hockey prior to the designated MSHSL hockey start date. When their high school team is eliminated from further advancement (section loss for example) they may continue back on their other team. Team Wisconsin & Valley Jr. Warriors (MA) are 2 programs that are together from Aug thru mid-Nov....the kids go play on their high school teams....when done they come back for the run to Nationals. No Mn kids played on RS & their local assoc. team if you were wondering...........hopefully this answers your question Score&scoreoften