News out of District 10

[loveitorleaveit]

Bleed Maroon and Gold - Trolls, almost across the board there. I've almost decided its not worth the 95% BS posts I have to filter through to actually read good comments with pertinent INFORMATION and not speculation and opinion.

Sometimes I think the Youth part of Youth hockey gets lost.

BTW - Irondale alumni here.

I probably should have worded it better than "dead program" - my bad, so lets ask this flpucknut - where has Irondale High School been since Bjugstad played there?

I did some fact checking - to filter your BS meter - no state tournaments - no section finals - only out of the first round a few times.

The program is ALIVE and WELL!!!!!!!

I also checked the youth stats, missing a lot of years with a bantam A team, a few good years in District 1 (when they only had 4 bad teams), but wins in state at A or B levels.

What part of this am I missing?

[flpucknut]

If you would have worded it differently there would have been no response by me.

I just don't understand why anyone on this YOUTH hockey forum, bashes or degrades any program, especially one that they have no association with or ties to. To insinuate that anyone playing in the Irondale youth program is feeding a "dead" program does nothing productive for anyone, specifically the YOUTH that are currently playing in it.

Is IYHA a powerhouse, no. But it seems they are doing things in the best interest of the kids to give them the best experience possible. Why anyone would try and trample on that, is at the very least confusing.

I use this forum to share information, learn about opportunities and get a pulse on the direction of youth hockey in MN. I cheer for all kids that play. And aside from whoever my team is playing that day hope everyone has a very successful and memorable time playing hockey. If people have other agendas and they post them publicly, they should expect to be called on it.

[loveitorleaveit]

If you would have worded it differently there would have been no response by me.

I just don't understand why anyone on this YOUTH hockey forum, bashes or degrades any program, especially one that they have no association with or ties to. To insinuate that anyone playing in the Irondale youth program is feeding a "dead" program does nothing productive for anyone, specifically the YOUTH that are currently playing in it.

Is IYHA a powerhouse, no. But it seems they are doing things in the best interest of the kids to give them the best experience possible. Why anyone would try and trample on that, is at the very least confusing.

I use this forum to share information, learn about opportunities and get a pulse on the direction of youth hockey in MN. I cheer for all kids that play. And aside from whoever my team is playing that day hope everyone has a very successful and memorable time playing hockey. If people have other agendas and they post them publicly, they should expect to be called on it.

Point taken - agreed - I currently have 2 kids playing in the program - at least 3 people on our team last year tried to waiver out - i'll stop the negative.


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how about some news from D10

[Bleed Maroon and Gold]

If you would have worded it differently there would have been no response by me.

I just don't understand why anyone on this YOUTH hockey forum, bashes or degrades any program, especially one that they have no association with or ties to. To insinuate that anyone playing in the Irondale youth program is feeding a "dead" program does nothing productive for anyone, specifically the YOUTH that are currently playing in it.

Is IYHA a powerhouse, no. But it seems they are doing things in the best interest of the kids to give them the best experience possible. Why anyone would try and trample on that, is at the very least confusing.

I use this forum to share information, learn about opportunities and get a pulse on the direction of youth hockey in MN. I cheer for all kids that play. And aside from whoever my team is playing that day hope everyone has a very successful and memorable time playing hockey. If people have other agendas and they post them publicly, they should expect to be called on it.

Point taken - agreed - I currently have 2 kids playing in the program - at least 3 people on our team last year tried to waiver out - i'll stop the negative.


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how about some news from D10

Interesting to hear 3 players tried to waive out of the association on the boys side at Irondale. No one ever tried to petition the board for a waiver.

[BlaineJGA]

If you would have worded it differently there would have been no response by me.

I just don't understand why anyone on this YOUTH hockey forum, bashes or degrades any program, especially one that they have no association with or ties to. To insinuate that anyone playing in the Irondale youth program is feeding a "dead" program does nothing productive for anyone, specifically the YOUTH that are currently playing in it.

Is IYHA a powerhouse, no. But it seems they are doing things in the best interest of the kids to give them the best experience possible. Why anyone would try and trample on that, is at the very least confusing.

I use this forum to share information, learn about opportunities and get a pulse on the direction of youth hockey in MN. I cheer for all kids that play. And aside from whoever my team is playing that day hope everyone has a very successful and memorable time playing hockey. If people have other agendas and they post them publicly, they should expect to be called on it.

Point taken - agreed - I currently have 2 kids playing in the program - at least 3 people on our team last year tried to waiver out - i'll stop the negative.


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how about some news from D10

Yes you are correct that Irondale is not a power house and probably will not be a power house in awhile. They need to get more kids in their association to have a chance to compete with certain teams in District 10. IE. Centennial, Elk River, Blaine and Andover until they have the numbers those associations have they will be a lower tier team in District 10. One way for them to get numbers is to co-op with another association.

You say you are from this association and have players in this association. Curious to see what your take on the co-op is.

Is this going to be a good thing for Irondale?

Or will this be a bad thing?

Or are you pissed off because your kid is a bubble kid and wont make the top team and will actually play at the correct level?

Here is a thought instead of bashing the orginization how about you do some work to make it better.

That is my two cents I have no involvement and should keep my two cents to myself. However bashing your own association is probably not going to help it get better.

[loveitorleaveit]

If you would have worded it differently there would have been no response by me.

I just don't understand why anyone on this YOUTH hockey forum, bashes or degrades any program, especially one that they have no association with or ties to. To insinuate that anyone playing in the Irondale youth program is feeding a "dead" program does nothing productive for anyone, specifically the YOUTH that are currently playing in it.

Is IYHA a powerhouse, no. But it seems they are doing things in the best interest of the kids to give them the best experience possible. Why anyone would try and trample on that, is at the very least confusing.

I use this forum to share information, learn about opportunities and get a pulse on the direction of youth hockey in MN. I cheer for all kids that play. And aside from whoever my team is playing that day hope everyone has a very successful and memorable time playing hockey. If people have other agendas and they post them publicly, they should expect to be called on it.

Point taken - agreed - I currently have 2 kids playing in the program - at least 3 people on our team last year tried to waiver out - i'll stop the negative.


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how about some news from D10

Yes you are correct that Irondale is not a power house and probably will not be a power house in awhile. They need to get more kids in their association to have a chance to compete with certain teams in District 10. IE. Centennial, Elk River, Blaine and Andover until they have the numbers those associations have they will be a lower tier team in District 10. One way for them to get numbers is to co-op with another association.

You say you are from this association and have players in this association. Curious to see what your take on the co-op is.

Is this going to be a good thing for Irondale?

Or will this be a bad thing?

Or are you pissed off because your kid is a bubble kid and wont make the top team and will actually play at the correct level?

Here is a thought instead of bashing the orginization how about you do some work to make it better.

That is my two cents I have no involvement and should keep my two cents to myself. However bashing your own association is probably not going to help it get better.

"question - I've been trying to think of another program like Irondale that is a high school and isn't a city/town."

"answer - The Irondale program is the cities of Mounds View and New Brighton which feeds into Irondale high school. - Could the same be said for programs like Centenial? East View?"

Thanks, thats what I was looking for - some examples of city/towns that have multiple high schools.

My comment -
I just can't see a program working well if you are trying to feed into a dead program.

The truth hurts - its not bashing the program - this applies to all.

I live in the school district, but my children won't be attending the high school. My oldest is already at another school (open enrollment isn't illegal).

Yes, I've tried to help - put my money where my mouth was, but was told to take a hike, by the president of the association at the time, who went on to find what was best for his son.

"But it seems they are doing things in the best interest of the kids to give them the best experience possible. Why anyone would try and trample on that, is at the very least confusing."

let me explain - our board has people who think the other associations are a lesser people. Where is the best interest of the kids there? They don't do whats good for All the kids, they do whats good for Their kid.

[greybeard58]

Have you talked with the new president yet? Yes a couple of years ago there was turmoil on the board, what with moving to District 1 and then having District 1 having all travel teams moved to other Districts and actually the best fit for Irondale is District 10.

[observer]

the best fit for Irondale is District 10.

District 2 would be better.

Youth associations need to work hard on recruiting and focusing on developing as many kids as possible. Will some leave by their bantam years? Yes. Will some leave for a high school outside of the community? Yes. All that means is you need to recruit more mites so the impact of departures means less. When you're big and fat and healthy some departures will be welcome news because they're often the ones you just as soon be without anyways. Some families just have issues, players and parents, and they congregate at the privates. Some departures will sting but you have lots of players to move into those spots.

Now is the recruiting season. 30 new mite boys and 20 new mite girls is the goal for most associations. Get er done.

[BlaineJGA]

Point taken - agreed - I currently have 2 kids playing in the program - at least 3 people on our team last year tried to waiver out - i'll stop the negative.


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how about some news from D10

Yes you are correct that Irondale is not a power house and probably will not be a power house in awhile. They need to get more kids in their association to have a chance to compete with certain teams in District 10. IE. Centennial, Elk River, Blaine and Andover until they have the numbers those associations have they will be a lower tier team in District 10. One way for them to get numbers is to co-op with another association.

You say you are from this association and have players in this association. Curious to see what your take on the co-op is.

Is this going to be a good thing for Irondale?

Or will this be a bad thing?

Or are you pissed off because your kid is a bubble kid and wont make the top team and will actually play at the correct level?

Here is a thought instead of bashing the orginization how about you do some work to make it better.

That is my two cents I have no involvement and should keep my two cents to myself. However bashing your own association is probably not going to help it get better.

"question - I've been trying to think of another program like Irondale that is a high school and isn't a city/town."

"answer - The Irondale program is the cities of Mounds View and New Brighton which feeds into Irondale high school. - Could the same be said for programs like Centenial? East View?"

Thanks, thats what I was looking for - some examples of city/towns that have multiple high schools.

My comment -
I just can't see a program working well if you are trying to feed into a dead program.

The truth hurts - its not bashing the program - this applies to all.

I live in the school district, but my children won't be attending the high school. My oldest is already at another school (open enrollment isn't illegal).

Yes, I've tried to help - put my money where my mouth was, but was told to take a hike, by the president of the association at the time, who went on to find what was best for his son.

"But it seems they are doing things in the best interest of the kids to give them the best experience possible. Why anyone would try and trample on that, is at the very least confusing."

let me explain - our board has people who think the other associations are a lesser people. Where is the best interest of the kids there? They don't do whats good for All the kids, they do whats good for Their kid.

I never said open enrolling your kid was illegal that is your right and that is the way you chose to go. The question I have is if your kids are not going to go to this high school and you are going to open enroll them to another high school assuming it is public not private why don't you have your younger children also go to elementary or middle school in that school district so your kids can start playing with people from that association earlier?

Does the Irondale board consist of all parents or is their non-parent board members also? I know here at Blaine we have had a mixture of both in the past and that seemed to work the best. The reason it works the best because the non-parents can keep the parents inline to do what is best for all the kids not just the parents kids.

you say that the Irondale board thinks other associations are lesser people. How is co-oping with another association saying another association is lesser people?

What is the Irondale board doing as of today that is only good for a few kids and not for all the kids?

[BlaineJGA]

The troll has disappeared and can't answer questions on why this is such a terrible association that he has to transfer his kids out.

[loveitorleaveit]

What is the Irondale board doing as of today that is only good for a few kids and not for all the kids?

They had approached Coon Rapids - then reported to us that Coon Rapids didn't want to work with us. I called a friend who is a board member with the CR program and he read me the minutes from the meeting, they wanted the co-op, but Irondale gave the list of demands and thats not a co-op. They came back to our assoc. and told us CR was the one who can't be trusted.

I guess st.francis wasn't smart enough to see thru the BS.

[CRBantamAcoach]

What is the Irondale board doing as of today that is only good for a few kids and not for all the kids?

They had approached Coon Rapids - then reported to us that Coon Rapids didn't want to work with us. I called a friend who is a board member with the CR program and he read me the minutes from the meeting, they wanted the co-op, but Irondale gave the list of demands and thats not a co-op. They came back to our assoc. and told us CR was the one who can't be trusted.

I guess st.francis wasn't smart enough to see thru the BS.

Its bad enough that a guy would drag his own association around the mud, please don't do this with others. I wasn't at the meeting held to discuss a co-op, but if you weren't either, leave CR out of this.

This thread was about news from District 10 - thanks to those who kept with that and please let us know of anything NEWS worthy.

[BlaineJGA]

Well I am glad you answered one question I had for you now lets try you answering the rest of the questions I have for you. I know your a troll and make shi*t up that you know nothing about so lets try to answer these now.

The question I have is if your kids are not going to go to this high school and you are going to open enroll them to another high school assuming it is public not private why don't you have your younger children also go to elementary or middle school in that school district so your kids can start playing with people from that association earlier?

Does the Irondale board consist of all parents or is their non-parent board members also? I know here at Blaine we have had a mixture of both in the past and that seemed to work the best. The reason it works the best because the non-parents can keep the parents inline to do what is best for all the kids not just the parents kids.

you say that the Irondale board thinks other associations are lesser people. How is co-oping with another association saying another association is lesser people?

[BlaineJGA]

What is the Irondale board doing as of today that is only good for a few kids and not for all the kids?

They had approached Coon Rapids - then reported to us that Coon Rapids didn't want to work with us. I called a friend who is a board member with the CR program and he read me the minutes from the meeting, they wanted the co-op, but Irondale gave the list of demands and thats not a co-op. They came back to our assoc. and told us CR was the one who can't be trusted.

I guess st.francis wasn't smart enough to see thru the BS.

Interesting that your friends meeting minutes are no where to be found on the Coon Rapids website. Again your a troll with unreliable information

[the_juiceman]

What is the Irondale board doing as of today that is only good for a few kids and not for all the kids?

They had approached Coon Rapids - then reported to us that Coon Rapids didn't want to work with us. I called a friend who is a board member with the CR program and he read me the minutes from the meeting, they wanted the co-op, but Irondale gave the list of demands and thats not a co-op. They came back to our assoc. and told us CR was the one who can't be trusted.

I guess st.francis wasn't smart enough to see thru the BS.

CR Co-op'd w/Irondale girls last year. There was talk of doing it again this year. That's when Irondale started to put demands out. 1 of which was to co-op with the youth/boys as well. CR said no. CR girls are now co-oping with SLP.

[loveitorleaveit]

What is the Irondale board doing as of today that is only good for a few kids and not for all the kids?

They had approached Coon Rapids - then reported to us that Coon Rapids didn't want to work with us. I called a friend who is a board member with the CR program and he read me the minutes from the meeting, they wanted the co-op, but Irondale gave the list of demands and thats not a co-op. They came back to our assoc. and told us CR was the one who can't be trusted.

I guess st.francis wasn't smart enough to see thru the BS.

CR Co-op'd w/Irondale girls last year. There was talk of doing it again this year. That's when Irondale started to put demands out. 1 of which was to co-op with the youth/boys as well. CR said no. CR girls are now co-oping with SLP.

Stop that juiceman - you'll be called a troll or worse yet a caring adult that wants to see what is best for your children.

Hey bantam coach - focus on your program - you could use a few more wins this year - zero is what i see on your record in D10 from last year - how bout that d10 news

[the_juiceman]

Any one know what the initial team declarations were?

[Bleed Maroon and Gold]

Any one know what the initial team declarations were?

St Francis and Irondale Initial declarations were A and B2 at both the Bantam and Pee Wee Level. With the co-op they will run a AA, B1 and B2 team at both Pee Wee and Bantam level.

[BlaineJGA]

They had approached Coon Rapids - then reported to us that Coon Rapids didn't want to work with us. I called a friend who is a board member with the CR program and he read me the minutes from the meeting, they wanted the co-op, but Irondale gave the list of demands and thats not a co-op. They came back to our assoc. and told us CR was the one who can't be trusted.

I guess st.francis wasn't smart enough to see thru the BS.

CR Co-op'd w/Irondale girls last year. There was talk of doing it again this year. That's when Irondale started to put demands out. 1 of which was to co-op with the youth/boys as well. CR said no. CR girls are now co-oping with SLP.

Stop that juiceman - you'll be called a troll or worse yet a caring adult that wants to see what is best for your children.

Hey bantam coach - focus on your program - you could use a few more wins this year - zero is what i see on your record in D10 from last year - how bout that d10 news

Pretty sad you can't even answer the questions asked of you but you can rip programs up and down including your own. Maybe you have to open enroll your kids for them to make a high school team because you have pissed so many people off in your association that you know your kids wouldn't make the high school team because of what you have done.

Now if you can answer the questions I had of you please do but I am sure you can't.

[Night Train]

One thing that aided the former successful Minneapolis-St. Louis Park co-op was changing the name to the Mpls-Park Storm and not using the names, colors or uniforms of either program. The River Heights bantam co-op with South St. Paul and Inver Grove Heights did the same. I'll guess one of the arguments was about what colors they wear and what they call the team. That's a small issue and can be avoided by renaming the teams and the co-op.

Was that one of the issues here? Co-ops can be great. Two below .500 teams can merge and be pretty strong. More kids immediately playing at the right level.

[loveitorleaveit]

Well I am glad you answered one question I had for you now lets try you answering the rest of the questions I have for you. I know your a troll and make shi*t up that you know nothing about so lets try to answer these now.

The question I have is if your kids are not going to go to this high school and you are going to open enroll them to another high school assuming it is public not private why don't you have your younger children also go to elementary or middle school in that school district so your kids can start playing with people from that association earlier?

Does the Irondale board consist of all parents or is their non-parent board members also? I know here at Blaine we have had a mixture of both in the past and that seemed to work the best. The reason it works the best because the non-parents can keep the parents inline to do what is best for all the kids not just the parents kids.

you say that the Irondale board thinks other associations are lesser people. How is co-oping with another association saying another association is lesser people?

They are currently enrolled in the district and we will keep them where they are at unless they need to move to another school.

The board does not have any non parents that I know.

Board members have said they didn't want to co-op with St.Francis because they have such a poor showing at all levels.[/b]

[blueliner5]

Well I am glad you answered one question I had for you now lets try you answering the rest of the questions I have for you. I know your a troll and make shi*t up that you know nothing about so lets try to answer these now.

The question I have is if your kids are not going to go to this high school and you are going to open enroll them to another high school assuming it is public not private why don't you have your younger children also go to elementary or middle school in that school district so your kids can start playing with people from that association earlier?

Does the Irondale board consist of all parents or is their non-parent board members also? I know here at Blaine we have had a mixture of both in the past and that seemed to work the best. The reason it works the best because the non-parents can keep the parents inline to do what is best for all the kids not just the parents kids.

you say that the Irondale board thinks other associations are lesser people. How is co-oping with another association saying another association is lesser people?

They are currently enrolled in the district and we will keep them where they are at unless they need to move to another school.

The board does not have any non parents that I know.

Board members have said they didn't want to co-op with St.Francis because they have such a poor showing at all levels.[/b]

Thanks for the clarification on the other thread. Now, with that said, which associations do your children play for?

[BlaineJGA]

Well I am glad you answered one question I had for you now lets try you answering the rest of the questions I have for you. I know your a troll and make shi*t up that you know nothing about so lets try to answer these now.

The question I have is if your kids are not going to go to this high school and you are going to open enroll them to another high school assuming it is public not private why don't you have your younger children also go to elementary or middle school in that school district so your kids can start playing with people from that association earlier?

Does the Irondale board consist of all parents or is their non-parent board members also? I know here at Blaine we have had a mixture of both in the past and that seemed to work the best. The reason it works the best because the non-parents can keep the parents inline to do what is best for all the kids not just the parents kids.

you say that the Irondale board thinks other associations are lesser people. How is co-oping with another association saying another association is lesser people?

They are currently enrolled in the district and we will keep them where they are at unless they need to move to another school.

The board does not have any non parents that I know.

Board members have said they didn't want to co-op with St.Francis because they have such a poor showing at all levels.[/b]

Well after looking at your boards meeting minutes from last week it looks like the co-op has been approved by both associations.

When I was at the super rink this past weekend I talked to a few irondale people and asked them a few question which you were incorrect about.

The board does have non-parents on it. High school coaches and your boys coordinator are all non parents. Looks like this is good for both associations and people were looking out for allt he kids not just certain kids. Seems to me from the parents I talked with most of them are in favor of the co-op.

What board members have said that St francis has a poor showing at don't want to co-op with them. I see only 1 person voted against the co-op.

But then again your kids play for 3 different associations according to you and you have trashed 2 of the 3 so I am pretty sure you will never be happy.

[BlaineJGA]

Loveitorleaveit are you to scared to respond now, or don't want to rip on your associations anymore.