7AA for 2017-2018

Usthockey13 · Post by **Usthockey13** » Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:21 pm

alcloseshaver wrote:
Usthockey13 wrote:
kniven wrote:It will be interesting to see if Marshall leapfrogs CEC with their win over Hill today.
Even if they do CEC should still end up with 3 seed in the end if them n DM are within the tiebreaker..
If ER wins out they should get the 4 seed based on overall winning %. Marshall over Greenway won't help much.

I’d assume Elk should win out with the teams they are playing and grab the 4 seed once the tiebreaker happens

Traxler · Post by **Traxler** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:41 am

hockey59 wrote:
alcloseshaver wrote:
Usthockey13 wrote: Even if they do CEC should still end up with 3 seed in the end if them n DM are within the tiebreaker..
If ER wins out they should get the 4 seed based on overall winning %. Marshall over Greenway won't help much.
Hoping ER gets the 4th seed so I can see DM road jersey at least one more time this season!

Whether DM gets the 4 or 5 you are likely to see their road jerseys when they play in the semis at Amsoil.

kniven · Post by **kniven** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:39 am

Wow. Coming down to the final week. This QRF thing is stressfull. 3, 4, and 5 seeds are still wide open. I could see Elk moving into the 3 spot. 4-5 Marshall and CEC like clockwork every year. But who will be home is the question for the QF game. 2/16 is when we will know I guess.

alcloseshaver · Post by **alcloseshaver** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:46 am

kniven wrote:Wow. Coming down to the final week. This QRF thing is stressfull. 3, 4, and 5 seeds are still wide open. I could see Elk moving into the 3 spot. 4-5 Marshall and CEC like clockwork every year. But who will be home is the question for the QF game. 2/16 is when we will know I guess.

CEC would have to go to Rapids and lose to not be at 3. Are they dialed in Knivvsy?

TheHockeyDJ · Post by **TheHockeyDJ** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:01 pm

I hope Cloquet decides to be the team they are capable of being for the rest of the year. Just don't be the team that beats East in the section final only to get skated out of the building in the state quarters by St. Thomas 9-0. If you're gonna play good and win 7AA, go to St. Paul and do some damage. Otherwise I just hope East can go down there and keep the title in 7AA.

kniven · Post by **kniven** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:02 pm

Yes. The boys are 100% healthy. We beat Proctor 6-0 so that was nice. I guess I’m not holdin my breath. In Grand Rapids, rivalry game and Holum.....we are walking into a trap. Rapids was beat by a lesser team 4-1 last year and they got the three seed. CEC could loose this game easily. I’m not going to assume anything.

kniven · Post by **kniven** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:07 pm

TheHockeyDJ wrote:I hope Cloquet decides to be the team they are capable of being for the rest of the year. Just don't be the team that beats East in the section final only to get skated out of the building in the state quarters by St. Thomas 9-0. If you're gonna play good and win 7AA, go to St. Paul and do some damage. Otherwise I just hope East can go down there and keep the title in 7AA.

I totally agree DJ.....

alcloseshaver · Post by **alcloseshaver** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:45 pm

I was really hoping Elk River would have beaten Andover in the 2nd matchup to see how it would affect the QRF. Could you beat a team twice and still finish behind them in the QRF?

kniven · Post by **kniven** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:09 pm

Hmmmmmm. Interesting news. Moorhead and Andover have removed CEC from their schedules for next year and beyond. Who makes these decisions: Coaches, AD, parents, players. etc. Is it a process/vote to remove a team from a schedule or just a decision by one person. I liked playing these 2 programs..... =(

alcloseshaver · Post by **alcloseshaver** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:21 pm

We are at the end of the 2 year cycle and they will rework the sections in all sports. If Hermantown moves up most likely Andover and or Elk River might be out of 7AA. Schools don't know where they will end up though. If they vote to continue use QRF section games aren't as critical and that might be a factor.

kniven · Post by **kniven** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:26 pm

alcloseshaver wrote:We are at the end of the 2 year cycle and they will rework the sections in all sports. If Hermantown moves up most likely Andover and or Elk River might be out of 7AA. Schools don't know where they will end up though. If they vote to continue use QRF section games aren't as critical and that might be a factor.

Thanks for the feedback ALc...

mulefarm · Post by **mulefarm** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:08 pm

kniven wrote:Hmmmmmm. Interesting news. Moorhead and Andover have removed CEC from their schedules for next year and beyond. Who makes these decisions: Coaches, AD, parents, players. etc. Is it a process/vote to remove a team from a schedule or just a decision by one person. I liked playing these 2 programs..... =(

Could CEC removed Moorhead and Andover from their schedule?

kniven · Post by **kniven** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:14 pm

I was told the AD from Moorhead and Andover contacted CEC. I'm sure those programs have their reasons. Like I said, I sure enjoyed playing those squads!

greenwayraider · Post by **greenwayraider** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:17 pm

I find it puzzling that a section opponent (Andover) would opt out of playing Cloquet.

kniven · Post by **kniven** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:30 pm

greenwayraider wrote:I find it puzzling that a section opponent (Andover) would opt out of playing Cloquet.

I hear what you are saying, Greenway. It’s unfortunate. Sections can be pretty lame if you don’t play any section games. We’ve never played Elk River in the regular season and now no Andover.

ps. it would be really nice if 7AA was all northern teams! Kick Elk, Andover, Flake, C/I, and saint franny out on their keisters

Goose21 · Post by **Goose21** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:52 pm

kniven wrote:I was told the AD from Moorhead and Andover contacted CEC. I'm sure those programs have their reasons. Like I said, I sure enjoyed playing those squads!

Moorhead to Cloquet is at least a 4 hour drive. Might be more road time than they are willing to spend.

kniven · Post by **kniven** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:16 pm

Goose21 wrote:
kniven wrote:I was told the AD from Moorhead and Andover contacted CEC. I'm sure those programs have their reasons. Like I said, I sure enjoyed playing those squads!
Moorhead to Cloquet is at least a 4 hour drive. Might be more road time than they are willing to spend.[/quote

Agreed. Especially if they can’t get in a Friday/Saturday game on the swing. CEC went to Moorhead this year playing Virginia Friday and then to Moorhead Saturday. Oh well.

Goose21 · Post by **Goose21** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:28 pm

kniven wrote:I was told the AD from Moorhead and Andover contacted CEC. I'm sure those programs have their reasons. Like I said, I sure enjoyed playing those squads!

Moorhead to Cloquet is at least a 4 hour drive. Might be more road time than they are willing to spend.

Upfan111 · Post by **Upfan111** » Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:37 am

Goose21 wrote:
kniven wrote:I was told the AD from Moorhead and Andover contacted CEC. I'm sure those programs have their reasons. Like I said, I sure enjoyed playing those squads!
Moorhead to Cloquet is at least a 4 hour drive. Might be more road time than they are willing to spend.

Doubt it; Moorhead is keeping road games to Rapids and East.

Andover- rumor on street for this one is CEC head coach can look in mirror and take the credit. Behavior toward officials on JV and varsity bench didn't help.

Rocketwrister · Post by **Rocketwrister** » Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:01 am

Upfan111 wrote:
Goose21 wrote:
kniven wrote:I was told the AD from Moorhead and Andover contacted CEC. I'm sure those programs have their reasons. Like I said, I sure enjoyed playing those squads!
Moorhead to Cloquet is at least a 4 hour drive. Might be more road time than they are willing to spend.
Doubt it; Moorhead is keeping road games to Rapids and East.

Andover- rumor on street for this one is CEC head coach can look in mirror and take the credit. Behavior toward officials on JV and varsity bench didn't help.

How do you know next years schedule Upfan?

kniven · Post by **kniven** » Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:25 am

I don’t think CEC’s head coach is to concerned about it. I was just wondering out loud. There are lots of teams out there to play in the state of hockey.

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:29 am

QRF as of 2/12
No. 4 Duluth East (143.1)5-1-1 19-2-3

#11 Andover (119.6) 6-3-0 18-5-0
#15 C-E-C (110.9)

No. 18 Duluth Marshall (107.5) 3-3-0 15-7-2
No. 19 Elk River/Zimmerman (106.5) 2-2-0 16-7-0

No. 28 Forest Lake (92.1) 3-3-0 12-10-1
No. 44 St. Francis (70.3) 2-2-0 13-10-0

No. 53 Grand Rapids (62.5) 1-5-0 5-17-1
No. 69 Cambridge-Isanti (29.2) 0-4-0 4-20-0

Usthockey13 · Post by **Usthockey13** » Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:43 am

elliott70 wrote:QRF as of 2/12
No. 4 Duluth East (143.1)5-1-1 19-2-3

#11 Andover (119.6) 6-3-0 18-5-0
#15 C-E-C (110.9)

No. 18 Duluth Marshall (107.5) 3-3-0 15-7-2
No. 19 Elk River/Zimmerman (106.5) 2-2-0 16-7-0

No. 28 Forest Lake (92.1) 3-3-0 12-10-1
No. 44 St. Francis (70.3) 2-2-0 13-10-0

No. 53 Grand Rapids (62.5) 1-5-0 5-17-1
No. 69 Cambridge-Isanti (29.2) 0-4-0 4-20-0

Looks like 3/4/5 are in the margin and could makes thing interesting this week.

kniven · Post by **kniven** » Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:08 pm

East
Andover
Elk
Marshall
CEC
Forest
Rapids

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:10 pm

QRF tiebreakers...

What order are the tiebreakers used when applying the Tiebreaker Margin?

Head to Head
Conference/District Winning Perecentage (not inc. forfeits)
Overall Winning Percentage (not inc. forfeits)
Section Winning Percentage (not inc. forfeits) (min. 25% of games played)
QRF
Coin Flip